On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Guy Cohen wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 09:44:48PM +0200, Oron Peled wrote:
> > So they didn't "waste" a month or so fighting their keyboards.
> > But the poor guys still use their keyboards *for years* at a
> > fraction of the speed I regularly type.
>
> Thats a good ex
On Mon, 14 Oct 2002, Eytan Heidingsfeld wrote:
> I don't think you understood my about my ADSL problem (BTW) I tried
> installing it and I still can't get it to work. I have read the how-to
> BEZEQ_ADSL_LINUX document but can't get the stupid thing to work!
my memory fails me here - did you wri
I don't think you understood my about my ADSL problem (BTW) I tried
installing it and I still can't get it to work. I have read the how-to
BEZEQ_ADSL_LINUX document but can't get the stupid thing to work!
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Guy Cohen wrote:
>Thats a good example. I'm starting to learn auto mechanics tomorrow.
>It will take me a while to learn, but next time my car brakes, I won't
>have to spend all that money at the shop.
>
>
>
There is a point of diminishing return when trying to study _everything_
, while it m
On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 09:44:48PM +0200, Oron Peled wrote:
> So they didn't "waste" a month or so fighting their keyboards.
> But the poor guys still use their keyboards *for years* at a
> fraction of the speed I regularly type.
Thats a good example. I'm starting to learn auto mechanics tomorrow
On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 02:36:41 +0200
Oded Arbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> most users don't want to operate their everyday software and they
> certainly don't want to learn it. and you know what - they are right.
To show how much their "rightness" is wrong, let's take a trivial
example. Most of
On Sun, 13 Oct 2002 01:28:09 +0200
"Eytan Heidingsfeld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I disagree. At my company I've installed many formatted machine with windows
Exactly. So you have lots of experience doing it. Let some computer illiterate
do it for the first time and silently watch the fun.
>
Title: RE: A disturbing article...
I want to insert my 5 agorot :)
In 96-97 i was computer technician and I remember first Windows 95 users. Firstly, nobody was able to install it completely(with all drivers) without help from experienced people, secondly, for the first users UI and
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áéåí øàùåï, 13 áàå÷èåáø 2002, 00:33, Oron Peled ëúá òì 'Re: A disturbing
article...':
> > A system that works 100% after you read the
> > total of two large instruction books and spend several days writing
> > con
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áéåí øàùåï, 13 áàå÷èåáø 2002, 00:17, Mark Veltzer ëúá òì 'Re: A disturbing
article...':
> I beg to differ. I willing to wager that 90% of windows users NEVER install
> their operating systems. Either the sys admin at the company th
On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 22:00:37 +0200
Oded Arbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If I use the system's configuration program to switch to another desktop and
> then switch back - I do expect to get back to exactly the same desktop I
> left, otherwise its a bug.
Definitely.
> A system that works 100%
On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 21:41:15 +0200 (IST)
Jonathan Ben Avraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The first problem is that Linux advocates usually do not understand just
> how unusable and inappropriate Linux is for the average person, which
The guy in the story had most problems in *configuring* Linu
On Sun, Oct 13, 2002, Mark Veltzer wrote about "Re: A disturbing article...":
> Actually Linux works much better "out of the box" than windows *** IF *** you
> compare two machine which come "scratched" (nothing on the hard drive). But
> since machines do
I disagree. At my company I've installed many formatted machine with windows
and had a very easy time performing the installation including setting up
servers connecting to the network etc. I just recently installed linux at
home and I still can't get ADSL to work on it (a whole week playing around
their minds after I explained a little bit on Linux. (ie,
they scared because it's not like windows)
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here here. Computers are to be *used* by users and installed/configured
by the professionals. Even linux :)
On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 12:17:36AM +0200, Mark Veltzer wrote:
> On Saturday 12 October 2002 21:41, you wrote:
> > Hi List,
> > I tend to concur with Oded,
> >
> > The first problem is that L
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On Saturday 12 October 2002 21:41, you wrote:
> Hi List,
> I tend to concur with Oded,
>
> The first problem is that Linux advocates usually do not understand just
> how unusable and inappropriate Linux is for the average person, which
> leads to the s
isn't a problem of dumb
users, it's a design flaw in current Linux distributions.
Regards,
- yba
On Sat, 12 Oct 2002, Oded Arbel wrote:
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> áùáú, 12 áàå÷èåáø 2002, 17:38, Guy Cohen ëúá òì 'Re: A disturbing arti
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áùáú, 12 áàå÷èåáø 2002, 17:38, Guy Cohen ëúá òì 'Re: A disturbing article...':
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 04:33:13PM +0200, Oded Arbel wrote:
> > most for the fact that a lot of user interactivity and system integrity
> > as
On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 04:33:13PM +0200, Oded Arbel wrote:
> most for the fact that a lot of user interactivity and system integrity
> aspects in Linux in general and Red Hat specificly suck nuts.
Heh. Thats total bs. If you can't configure it properly, don't
blame the system.
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áéåí ùìéùé, 8 áàå÷èåáø 2002, 23:11, Arie Folger ëúá òì 'Re: A disturbing
article...':
> On Tuesday 08 October 2002 02:05, Michael Sternberg wrote:
> > http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1883
>
> The above article is
On Tuesday 08 October 2002 02:05, Michael Sternberg wrote:
> http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1883
The above article is about somebody who had a terrible experience with RH8.0.
It seems that his network settings and possibly some daemons and X ran amock.
Anybody on list care to share exp
Hi,
On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 08:05:18AM +0200, Michael Sternberg wrote:
> http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1883
I think it was agreed a few months ago that such messages should
contain a small description of the article, for those that do not
have the whole day to read such things.
It's a
http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=1883
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