-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 ביום ראשון, 13 באוקטובר 2002, 00:17, Mark Veltzer כתב על 'Re: A disturbing article...':
> I beg to differ. I willing to wager that 90% of windows users NEVER install > their operating systems. Either the sys admin at the company they are at > does it or the guy who sold them their computer (or some support guy once > it gets broken) does it for them. I disagree. my experience as "the computer wiz" in several hetrogenous user communities (i.e. all kinds of people) shows that most users do install their windows system - when you tell a guy (or a girl) who got a new computer to install windows, (s)he bitches a bit and calls you once or twice but does it. > Actually Linux works much better "out of the box" than windows *** IF *** > you compare two machine which come "scratched" (nothing on the hard drive). The issue which was discussed in the article wasn't about installing - the author specificly noted the fact that the installer was pretty easy and that's it. there where maybe 4 or 5 lines about the installation - all positive. the issues the author had with Linux was about the user experience. > Please Please do not confuse ease of installation of something which people Please don't confuse ease of installation (which the modern linux distros are quite good at, debian not withstanding ;-) with good user experience. the system may be the easiest to install in the world, but if the first time a user wants to change his window manager he gets something no one but an expert unixer knows how to use, and the second time he get a window manager with menus full of applications that does not work, then something here is very very wrong. The last time I installed Linux, with Mandrake 9, it was very smooth. things were running indeed out of the box, but a friend who used an account on the same computer kept having problems - things didn't work for him, things crashed, he couldn't configure the system to do things his way, the browser wouldn't display the sites he wanted to visit properly, and so on. as a long time linux users and a some what proficient system administrator I encoutered many of the so-called problems he had, but for me those were easy to fix or I dismissed them as 'its just something that happens when you use computers/software/linux'. as a very intelligent person who's not afraid of computers and picks things up pretty easily, my friend still had problem with what is probably the easiest Linux around. if he'll stick around long enough, he would probably learn to fix it himself or take it in stride - but the sad fact is that most people won't stick around. probably because that for most people, like my friend, the computer is just a tool - if it works I'll use it, if it doesn't - I'll get something that does. and for those people - windows is something that does work - its well integrated, its predictable and as long as it doesn't crash I can get it to do my stuff w/o needing to understand how it does it. - -- Oded ::.. The big question is why in the course of evolution the males permitted themselves to be so totally eclipsed by the females. Why do they tolerate this total subservience, this wretched existence as outcasts who are hungry all the time? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9qLxzkltamOf8EzsRAnfAAJsHL15oMKp5n/LYek3tWLmUwAtWTwCfVu9s ZIi44cPxOGk12k7r5tTRj3g= =3buS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ================================================================To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]