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ביום ראשון, 13 באוקטובר 2002, 00:17, Mark Veltzer כתב על 'Re: A disturbing 
article...':

> I beg to differ. I willing to wager that 90% of windows users NEVER install
> their operating systems. Either the sys admin at the company they are at
> does it or the guy who sold them their computer (or some support guy once
> it gets broken) does it for them. 

I disagree. my experience as "the computer wiz" in several hetrogenous user 
communities (i.e. all kinds of people) shows that most users do install their 
windows system - when you tell a guy (or a girl) who got a new computer to 
install windows, (s)he bitches a bit and calls you once or twice but does it.

> Actually Linux works much better "out of the box" than windows *** IF ***
> you compare two machine which come "scratched" (nothing on the hard drive).

The issue which was discussed in the article wasn't about installing - the 
author specificly noted the fact that the installer was pretty easy and 
that's it. there where maybe 4 or 5 lines about the installation - all 
positive. the issues the author had with Linux was about the user experience.

> Please Please do not confuse ease of installation of something which people

Please don't confuse ease of installation (which the modern linux distros are 
quite good at, debian not withstanding ;-) with good user experience. the 
system may be the easiest to install in the world, but if the first time a 
user wants to change his window manager he gets something no one but an 
expert unixer knows how to use, and the second time he get a window manager 
with menus full of applications that does not work, then something here is 
very very wrong.

The last time I installed Linux, with Mandrake 9, it was very smooth. things 
were running indeed out of the box, but a friend who used an account on the 
same computer kept having problems - things didn't work for him, things 
crashed, he couldn't configure the system to do things his way, the browser 
wouldn't display the sites he wanted to visit properly, and so on. as a long 
time linux users and a some what proficient system administrator I encoutered 
many of the so-called problems he had, but for me those were easy to fix or I 
dismissed them as 'its just something that happens when you use 
computers/software/linux'. as a very intelligent person who's not afraid of 
computers and picks things up pretty easily, my friend still had problem with 
what is probably the easiest Linux around. if he'll stick around long enough, 
he would probably learn to fix it himself or take it in stride - but the sad 
fact is that most people won't stick around. probably because that for most 
people, like my friend, the computer is just a tool - if it works I'll use 
it, if it doesn't - I'll get something that does. and for those people - 
windows is something that does work - its well integrated, its predictable 
and as long as it doesn't crash I can get it to do my stuff w/o needing to 
understand how it does it.

- -- 
Oded 

::..
The big question is why in the course of evolution the males permitted
themselves to be so totally eclipsed by the females.  Why do they tolerate
this total subservience, this wretched existence as outcasts who are
hungry all the time?
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