here here. Computers are to be *used* by users and installed/configured
by the professionals. Even linux :)

On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 12:17:36AM +0200, Mark Veltzer wrote:
> On Saturday 12 October 2002 21:41, you wrote:
> > Hi List,
> > I tend to concur with Oded,
> >
> > The first problem is that Linux advocates usually do not understand just
> > how unusable and inappropriate Linux is for the average person, which
> > leads to the second problem, that there is no Linux distribution that
> > works out-of-the-box like Windows does. This isn't a problem of dumb
> > users, it's a design flaw in current Linux distributions.
> 
> I beg to differ. I willing to wager that 90% of windows users NEVER install 
> their operating systems. Either the sys admin at the company they are at does 
> it or the guy who sold them their computer (or some support guy once it gets 
> broken) does it for them. Comparing windows ease of install with Linux is 
> flawed since only professionals install windows (either sellers of computers 
> or sys admins at companies) while we expect the average user to install Linux 
> (since the system came pre installed with windows and there is a very small 
> number of professionals who will do that work for you for pay and people do 
> not usually want to pay for "trying the new system out").
> 
> Actually Linux works much better "out of the box" than windows *** IF *** you 
> compare two machine which come "scratched" (nothing on the hard drive). But 
> since machines don't come that way it *** looks *** like windows is easier to 
> install. It's actually a lot harder to install and a lot messier (it takes at 
> *** least *** several hours and a lot of know how to put the basic things on 
> top of windows which comes pretty stipped down while Linux installation is 
> rarely more than an hour or so and comes fully loaded).
> 
> Please Please do not confuse ease of installation of something which people 
> rarely install on their own (windows) with something that users are *** 
> required *** to install if they want to use (Linux)....
>  
> Cheers,
>       mark.

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