Fwd: linux professional groups

2004-02-08 Thread linux-il
I though the following might interest people here who work as Linux/FOSS consultants. Apparently, the .net site is a non-profit site but the .com one is commercial. Bruce also told me on private e-mail that they have a branch in Israel too. Cheers, --Amos Original Message Sub

RE: Annoyance with Israeli ISPs

2004-02-08 Thread Michael Sternberg
> -Original Message- > From: Ilya Konstantinov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sun, 08 February, 2004 8:12 PM > > Tell me after you actually do it (that is - find a way to upload a > custom firmware and crack that firmware to change the MAC address). Try http://www.tcniso.net/ =

anyone for a beer with maddog?

2004-02-08 Thread Ira Abramov
I read on the DailyMaily that Jon madog Hall will be in Israel next month as a guest of Meta group for their annual convention. If anyone wants to get up and organize some community get-together, now is the time to start organizing. (me started new job and moved to new house, no time to breath) --

Re: Participating in the Open Office development effort

2004-02-08 Thread Shaul Karl
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 03:51:55PM +0200, Omer Zak wrote: > A completely different option, for those who want Hebrew wordprocessor > under Linux: AbiWord. > > It is lightweight yet on its way to become very powerful wordprocessor. > I am not familiar with AbiWord. 1) Did you mention Hebrew _

Re: echo... echo...

2004-02-08 Thread Matan Ziv-Av
On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Ira Abramov wrote: > I've been seeing double on the list, it appears someone is echoing in > messages, anyone with a freaked out microsoft server? > > Received: from mx01.matchnet-plc.com ([192.168.1.69]) by CLMAILQ01.matchnet.com > with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Sun, 8 F

Re: Configuring GDM to limit user actions

2004-02-08 Thread Shlomi Loubaton
There are some tools that allow you to control user's actions, read about 'sudo' (use with care, see remarks below). a nice tool to control users i found latly is 'and' (auto nicing deamon - a Luser's Attitude Readjustment Tool as described in the man page), it allows you to renice applications

Re: Configuring GDM to limit user actions

2004-02-08 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 06:58:11PM +0200, Arik Baratz wrote: > > > -Original Message- > From: Mark Veltzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > 1. The operating system does not, per se, state which applications each user > > can run. If a user has running capabilities then he can launch any

Re: Participating in the Open Office development effort

2004-02-08 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 04:25:06PM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: > Hi Oleg, > You are not misreading my email. OOo is an immense product with thousands > of packages and a high rate of change. The redesign that you suggest is > happening all of the time, it's just a huge project and it will ta

Re: Annoyance with Israeli ISPs

2004-02-08 Thread Ilya Konstantinov
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 05:11:05AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > > The cable modem's MAC address is unique and unchangeable (as the > > standard dictates), and it's your only form of authentication (proving > > Supposedly its that way, only AFAIK hardware suppliers reuse mac > addresses. Cheap Eth

Re: Participating in the Open Office development effort

2004-02-08 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: One practical implication: Linux distributions serve their own copies of OpenOffice packages. I'm not totally sure about other distros, but I know that at least the debian one is heavily ptached with some useful patches . I have no idea if and when those patches will become pa

RE: Configuring GDM to limit user actions

2004-02-08 Thread Arik Baratz
-Original Message- From: Mark Veltzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 1. The operating system does not, per se, state which applications each user > can run. If a user has running capabilities then he can launch any executable > file. Even an executable file which was derived from consulti

echo... echo...

2004-02-08 Thread Ira Abramov
I've been seeing double on the list, it appears someone is echoing in messages, anyone with a freaked out microsoft server? Received: from mx01.matchnet-plc.com ([192.168.1.69]) by CLMAILQ01.matchnet.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Sun, 8 Feb 2004 08:33:13 -0800 matchnet.com seems to be i

Re: Participating in the Open Office development effort

2004-02-08 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
Hi Uri, Please see inline comments below. On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Uri Sharf wrote: > Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 03:16:44PM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: > > > > Can anybody attest to the difficulty of building it on linux from a > > source package? > > > I've built it on Ge

OSCAR clusters

2004-02-08 Thread Ira Abramov
Howdie people, anyone here with OSCAR experiance? I read in their site that thsy only support RedHat 8.0 and 9.0 in the latest release, and that the client systems (compute farm nodes) need to be of the same version as the host, however someoe told me that in HATAASIYA HAAVIRIT they set up one mac

Re: Participating in the Open Office development effort

2004-02-08 Thread Uri Sharf
Eli Marmor wrote: I hope that the comment that I sent to whatsup, clarified everything (for the lazy people: it seconds, more or less, the claims of Shachar and Jonathan). Shachar Shemesh wrote: Uri Sharf wrote: Shachar Shemesh wrote: Jonathan suggested that, as Tk are doing that anyways, Tk w

Re: Participating in the Open Office development effort

2004-02-08 Thread Uri Sharf
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 03:16:44PM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: Can anybody attest to the difficulty of building it on linux from a source package? I've built it on Gentoo, when I still had Gentoo that is. Long and tedious (~8 hrs on P4/2.0 GHZ), but built smoothly. I'v

Re: Configuring GDM to limit user actions

2004-02-08 Thread Ori Idan
My previous answer was about GDM, now I read your question again and see that you are talking about GNOME, I think there is a panel in gnome that lets you edit the menus. About which application a user can run, I don't think this is controllable from gnome, for this you will have to configure th

Re: Participating in the Open Office development effort

2004-02-08 Thread Eli Marmor
I hope that the comment that I sent to whatsup, clarified everything (for the lazy people: it seconds, more or less, the claims of Shachar and Jonathan). Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > Uri Sharf wrote: > > > Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > > >> Jonathan suggested that, as Tk are doing that anyways, Tk wi

Re: Configuring GDM to limit user actions

2004-02-08 Thread Ori Idan
David Sapir wrote: Hi, I would like to know how to configure Gnome on RH9 for a specific user: * control the menus from the "start menu" (which item will appear in the menues) * control which application a user can activate (run) * require a root password (or a previledged user password) for cert

Re: Participating in the Open Office development effort

2004-02-08 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
Hi Oleg, You are not misreading my email. OOo is an immense product with thousands of packages and a high rate of change. The redesign that you suggest is happening all of the time, it's just a huge project and it will take a long time. Anyone who understands what it means to work on the developme

Re: Participating in the Open Office development effort

2004-02-08 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
Hi Tzafrir, Tk Open Systems has been building OOo from source for the past year and three months. We have two very talented two engineers, Alan Yaniger and Oleg Reebakov working a total of about 300 hours per month, mainly on build issues for the four platforms we do. This is not a small expense. T

Re: Configuring GDM to limit user actions

2004-02-08 Thread Mark Veltzer
On Sunday 08 February 2004 15:34, you wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to know how to configure Gnome on RH9 for a specific user: > * control the menus from the "start menu" (which item will appear in the > menues) > * control which application a user can activate (run) > * require a root password (or

Re: Participating in the Open Office development effort

2004-02-08 Thread Oleg Goldshmidt
Jonathan Ben Avraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The problem with public participation in the Hebrew OOo effort is the high > cost of maintaining knowledge of how to build OOo. OOo does not build > out-of-the-box like Apache or Squid. You have to set up a complex > development environment. Just

Re: Participating in the Open Office development effort

2004-02-08 Thread Omer Zak
A completely different option, for those who want Hebrew wordprocessor under Linux: AbiWord. It is lightweight yet on its way to become very powerful wordprocessor. On Sun, 8 Feb 2004, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > One practical implication: Linux distributions serve their own copies of > OpenOffice p

Re: Participating in the Open Office development effort

2004-02-08 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 03:16:44PM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote: > Hi Uri, > The problem with public participation in the Hebrew OOo effort is the high > cost of maintaining knowledge of how to build OOo. OOo does not build > out-of-the-box like Apache or Squid. You have to set up a complex >

Configuring GDM to limit user actions

2004-02-08 Thread David Sapir
Hi, I would like to know how to configure Gnome on RH9 for a specific user: * control the menus from the "start menu" (which item will appear in the menues) * control which application a user can activate (run) * require a root password (or a previledged user password) for certain applications

Re: Participating in the Open Office development effort

2004-02-08 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 01:49:12PM +0100, Uri Sharf wrote: > Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > >Jonathan suggested that, as Tk are doing that anyways, Tk will set up a > >system where people from the community can log in (either remotely or > >pay them a visit in Jerusalem), and use their facilities to

Re: gcj quality

2004-02-08 Thread Gilad Ben-Yossef
On Sunday 08 February 2004 14:53, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > Does anyone have any experience with gcj (http://gcc.gnu.org/java/), > with regards to the following: > > - quality of generated byte code > - quality of generated machine code > > where quality can refer to any of correctness, speed, size

Re: Participating in the Open Office development effort

2004-02-08 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Uri Sharf wrote: Shachar Shemesh wrote: Jonathan suggested that, as Tk are doing that anyways, Tk will set up a system where people from the community can log in (either remotely or pay them a visit in Jerusalem), and use their facilities to hack OpenOffice. The precise details are a little sk

Re: Participating in the Open Office development effort

2004-02-08 Thread Jonathan Ben Avraham
Hi Uri, The problem with public participation in the Hebrew OOo effort is the high cost of maintaining knowledge of how to build OOo. OOo does not build out-of-the-box like Apache or Squid. You have to set up a complex development environment. Just learning how to build OOo takes about six months f

gcj quality

2004-02-08 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
Does anyone have any experience with gcj (http://gcc.gnu.org/java/), with regards to the following: - quality of generated byte code - quality of generated machine code where quality can refer to any of correctness, speed, size and/or memory consumption? Cheers, Muli -- Muli Ben-Yehuda http:

Re: Annoyance with Israeli ISPs

2004-02-08 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Feb 08, 2004 at 01:57:06PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > Actually, it is the ethernet card. > > I know it doesn't seem to make sense, but that's the way cable ISPs > work. The modem is a sortof bridge, and the ethernet MAC address passes > through. You can verify it quite easilly if yo

Re: Participating in the Open Office development effort

2004-02-08 Thread Uri Sharf
Shachar Shemesh wrote: Jonathan suggested that, as Tk are doing that anyways, Tk will set up a system where people from the community can log in (either remotely or pay them a visit in Jerusalem), and use their facilities to hack OpenOffice. The precise details are a little sketchy at the momen

Re: Annoyance with Israeli ISPs

2004-02-08 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Actually, it is the ethernet card. I know it doesn't seem to make sense, but that's the way cable ISPs work. The modem is a sortof bridge, and the ethernet MAC address passes through. You can verify it quite easilly if you run arpwatch on a gateway. Shachar Disclaimer - I don't

Participating in the Open Office development effort

2004-02-08 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Hi all, I have just come back from a meeting which included Jonathan Ben-Avraham (a member of this list, BTW), who is the CEO of TkOs, as well as Moti Sadovsky from Sun Israel. Tk are doing the development of the Hebrew version of OpenOffice for Sun. At the meeting I raised the problem where p