Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative

2013-03-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, this suggestion might take the crown of the most discussed change away from the treble clef touchup - i'm impressed :) Anyway, i see the situation as follows: - most of us consider changing the behaviour of \relative {} (without explicit reference pitch) a good idea, - we (i.e. user community)

Re: Turn placed between notes

2013-03-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 7:02 AM, Nick Payne wrote: > See attached graphic. Quite a number of these in the score (Brahms Sextet Op > 18). you can use a clever function written by David K. While it results in different (i'd say a bit worse) spacing, it makes input code infinitely more readable: at

Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative

2013-03-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Olivier Biot wrote: > Thinking of which, I believe I am struggling with "music entry notation" > versus "music storage": writing in relative pitch is often easier for note > entry, but absolute pitches are IMHO better suited for storing music. I may > be trying to d

Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative

2013-03-10 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Wim van Dommelen wrote: > > On 10 Mar 2013, at 10:06 , David Kastrup wrote: >> Barely tongue-in-cheek: >> >> absolute = >> #(define-music-function (parser location music) (ly:music?) >> (make-music 'TransposedMusic 'element music)) >> >> When placed inside of a

Re: Frescobaldi install (was: final score)

2013-03-10 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: > My last attempt to install it on my Mac to run in an X11 window resulted in > literally hundreds of things being downloaded by MacPorts- dependencies for > the dependencies for the dependencies in what seemed to be nearly infinite > recurs

Re: lecker lek-ker in "old" German lyrics

2013-03-10 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Alexander Kobel wrote: > On a different side note, it'd also be really nice if one could specify that > no additional space should be introduced if there is no hyphen. At least > that's how hand-engraved scores seem to do if horizontal space is at a > premium: writ

Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative

2013-03-10 Thread Janek Warchoł
:) On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:10 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > Janek Warchoł writes: > >> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Wim van Dommelen wrote: >>> Compared with the \clef behaviour, I see this variant: >>> melody = { \relative c='4 d e f g f e d c \absolut

Re: change barline type with time signature change

2013-03-11 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Hi Jan-Peter (and anyone else still interested in this thread): > > In the end, the conductor of my chamber opera asked to have the bar lines > solid for all measures, but 50% grey and slightly thicker than default as the > "baselin

Re: change barline type with time signature change

2013-03-11 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > >> This reminds me of an idea i had: make stafflines under rests grey, >> to make it immediately obvious where an instrument is resting (see >> attached - obviously a bigger example would demonstrate this idea >> better, but i don' have one)

Re: Proposed new available and recommended behavior of \relative

2013-03-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:34 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > >> On Sat, Mar 09, 2013 at 12:20:19AM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >>> So the first pitch will _always_ be special-cased. With a reference >>> pitch, it is special-cased to refer to that absolute pitch. Withou

Re: stem direction when crossing staves

2013-03-13 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:13 AM, Peter Wannemacher wrote: > Greetings, > > I have a part which crosses between two staves. I would like the stems to go > down when on the upper staff and up when on the lower staff. I have succeeded > in > the example below, but I would like not to have to ty

Re: \relative proposal: putting absolute pitches anywhere within \relative block using @-sign

2013-03-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, please be careful with using caps. On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:24 PM, wrote: > Why a new syntax? I frequently find that if I jump to the end of a big, long > \relative { ... }, then frequently I don't remember which octave I'm in. Maybe using Frescobaldi would solve this problem for you?

Re: \mark halfway a bar?

2013-03-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Rutger Hofman wrote: > Good afternoon list, > > I want to have a rehearsal \mark halfway a bar. I cannot find anything in > the v2.16 manual. I'm not sure i understand your problem. You can simply insert a \mark anywhere you want it to be: { c'8 c' d' d' \

Re: \mark halfway a bar?

2013-03-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Rutger Hofman wrote: > On 03/14/2013 01:01 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> I'm not sure i understand your problem. You can simply insert a \mark >> anywhere you want it to be: >> >> { c'8 c' d' d' \mark \default e&

Re: \mark halfway a bar?

2013-03-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote: > >> I want to place the mark over some specific time within the bar, e.g. at >> the third quarter in a 4/4. > > then simply add a hidden bar : > > { >c c c >\bar "" >\mark\default >c > } uh, you don't need that hidde

Re: Re: Pseudo-handwritten font

2013-03-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi Torsten, On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 11:36 AM, "Torsten Hämmerle" wrote: > I've attached a zip file containing the current (albeit > unfinished) versions of the LilyJAZZ music and LilyJAZZ Text font plus the > corresponding LilyJAZZ.ily include. > As an example to demonstrate what's already there

Re: Aw: Re: Re: Pseudo-handwritten font

2013-03-14 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:59 PM, David Kastrup wrote: > "Torsten Hämmerle" writes: > >> I'm just happy that in the meantime some "main actors" as David or >> even Jan seem to acknowledge the fact that Lilypond would certainly >> benefit from being able to produce "jazz output". > > It's not "just

Re: Slurs and Ties

2013-03-18 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Noeck wrote: > 2.) For notes outside the staff (on ledger lines, like c’) there is in > my opinion no reason to place ties below the note heads. I would prefer > to have them placed like for the d or b example, because currently ties > are almost undistinguish

Re: User comments on R shorthand

2013-03-21 Thread Janek Warchoł
[snip long discussion] hi people, I'd love to be able to write R*4 to get 4 full measure rests without having to think about time signature. This would be very convenient. Therefore i'm sorry to hear that such a feature is likely impossible to implement properly (if David says so, there's a good

Re: Dynamics: widely varying vertical positions

2013-03-21 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Keith OHara wrote: > People have been talking about making LilyPond align the height of dynamics > in a row, as if they were jointed by a hairpin crescendo. Probably best if > this is done upon request, with some indication like b\mp\_ to make an > alignment > to

Re: Another happy lilypond user

2013-03-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Alberto Simões wrote: > Hi > > > On 24/03/13 14:55, David Kastrup wrote: >> >> Well, I am somewhat unhappy with that focus on the pricing of Finale as >> my own work is being funded by LilyPond users who are typically paying >> somewhat more to substantially more t

Re: how offsets and alignment works: an explanation

2013-03-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi all, On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Phil Holmes wrote: > I think this is useful material. I would put it in the CG: a new section in > Programming work: Tutorial on grob alignment. Maybe. > If you do this and are > certain make doc runs without a problem, then pushing directly to staging

Re: how offsets and alignment works: an explanation

2013-03-26 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi Harm, On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Thomas Morley wrote: > 2013/3/25 Thomas Morley : >> 2013/3/24 Janek Warchoł : >>> Could i ask you to write a function that would print a red dot on top >>> of a grob's refpoint? >> >> Will try the upcomin

Re: Repeated accidental after tie across line break

2013-03-26 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Richard Shann wrote: > Dear LilyPonders, > When a tied note with accidental ties across a line boundary the > accidental is repeated in the next bar. If there is a further note with > the same accidental, the accidental is repeated, which looks very odd, > as the

Re: Lyrics interfere with volta?

2013-03-26 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Colin Campbell wrote: > I still don't understand the original error. The problem is that voltas specified in lyrics are inserted right where lyrics are, not aligned with voltas from music. Maybe this will help you visualise what happens (it may be worth to a

Re: Repeated accidental after tie across line break

2013-03-26 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Urs Liska wrote: > Anyway, I also think there should be only one accidental in the measure > after the line break (although i don't have a strong opinion on which one to > emend. > If I put an accidental on the first (i.e. the tied note) then I definitely > don't n

Re: Repeated accidental after tie across line break

2013-03-26 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Richard Shann wrote: > On Tue, 2013-03-26 at 13:12 +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> Or do you refer to the accidental after the line break? > > The one after the line break (which I called a line boundary in my > original message). > I think it

Re: text

2013-03-26 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:48 AM, aum wrote: > Hi, > I have music with a spoken words. Is it possible to spread lyrics over > multiple > bars without note-syllable correspondence? Yes, search Notation Reference for lyrics with explicit durations. Basically its something like << { c'2 c'8 c' c'

Re: extending event-listener.ly

2013-03-28 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 2:46 PM, luis jure wrote: > BTW, is phil's patch going be merged into lilypond's event-listener? It can be. Phil, please make a git-formatted patch and send a request for merging it to bug-lilypond mailing list. If you need help with this, let us know. best, Janek

Re: extending event-listener.ly

2013-03-28 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi Phil, On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Phil Hézaine wrote: > Le 28/03/2013 15:00, Janek Warchoł a écrit : >> Phil, please make a git-formatted patch and send a request >> for merging it to bug-lilypond mailing list. If you need help with >> this, let us know. > >

Re: Lilypond \include statements and the GPL

2013-03-29 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 7:26 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: > Personally I feel it would be nice to resolve any potential ambiguity. > > Obviously the best way to do this is just to show that I'm definitively wrong > in > my interpretation (this would be nice:-), I'd say this: without t

Re: Tempo marking pushes rehearsal mark far above the staff

2013-03-30 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > >> both MetronomeMark and RehearsalMark need to have space reserved. > > If any two grobs "have space reserved", will collision > avoidence always be accomplished horizontally? > There are many times I don't like the fact that Lilypon

Re: Tempo marking pushes rehearsal mark far above the staff

2013-03-30 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > In all seriousness: I've broached the subject with Mike S (in his role as my > "developer for hire"), and he seems to think it might be too complex. I want > each grob to have settings which: > 1. give the axis/es along which it

Re: Lilypond \include statements and the GPL

2013-04-02 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: > On 03/29/2013 11:26 AM, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> An example came to my mind: imagine someone typesetting a score and >> using one (just one) function from OLLib. Distributing whole OLLib >> together with the sc

Re: Lilypond \include statements and the GPL

2013-04-02 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote: > Anyway, back to the key issue -- would you like me to draft an email to the > Software Freedom Law Center? The fact that this issue is of concern also to > people in the TeX community makes me feel that it's something they should >

Re: RemoveEmptyStaves and the ambitus_engraver

2013-04-03 Thread Janek Warchoł
ide MainSequence and have the ambitus appear at the very beginning, and keep that first system alive (which makes some sense in my opinion): \new Staff \relative c' { \clef treble \new MainSequence { \skip 1*8 \repeat unfold 2 { e1 e'1 } } } hth, Janek Warc

Re: vowel aligned lyrics - want to improve it

2013-04-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Xavier Scheuer wrote: > Someone on the French users mailing list would like to align lyrics > on the first vowel. > http://lilypond-french-users.1298960.n2.nabble.com/Alignement-des-paroles-sur-la-premiere-voyelle-td7579353.html > > I found this thread but searchin

Re: vowel aligned lyrics - want to improve it

2013-04-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi all, On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:20 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > Ultimately, it would be great to have two settings: > 1. glyphs which "don't count" for width calculations > (e.g., the LyricText "amazing—" should be centred > as if it were just "amazing") http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issue

Re: speed

2013-04-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Andrew Bernard wrote: > Greetings, > > On my Linux Mint 14 virtual machine running in Virtualbox on a Macbook Pro > with a 2.4 GHz i7, I get 30 seconds more or less exactly. > > Looks like those i5's are catching up. > > The Reubke seems like quite a good timin

Re: font

2013-04-04 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/4/4 Christian : > Hi all, > > I am trying to have a text in the plantin font and bold and italic at the > same time. How can I achieve this? > > I have tried this with \override LyricText #'font-name = #"Plantin MT Std" > But than I cannot make it bold and italic. Try something like \ov

Re: shortening a stem

2013-04-05 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi Werner, i'm performing some archeological research on emails that were sent during my absence and i found this one: 2013/1/20 Werner LEMBERG : > what must I write to shorten an unbeamed stem by, say, one unit? A > naive approach would be > > \once \override Stem.length #(- ly:stem::calc-len

Re: shortening a stem

2013-04-05 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/5 Urs Liska : > > "Janek Warchoł" schrieb: >>hmm, i think that your email body got eaten. >>Janek > > Oops, you're right. > But before that happened I had asked whether you have included > that function in our Fried library. Otherwise you shou

Re: lilypond source and music sheet database

2013-04-06 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/4/6 Stjepan Horvat : > Hey guys .. what would you prefer using as a lilypond database. I have bunch > of files in bunch of folders laying around my pc with diferent versions of > the same song, 20 same/diffrent config files, unsorted and some of them > already are lost or can't find. Call

Re: lilypond source and music sheet database

2013-04-07 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/7 David Kastrup : > Joseph Rushton Wakeling writes: > >> On 04/06/2013 10:50 PM, Janek Warchoł wrote: >>> The things is, use git for tracking source files, not pdfs. If you >>> put \version statements in all your .ly files, you can always recreate >&

tracking lilypond builds with git (was: lilypond source and music sheet database)

2013-04-07 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/4/7 David Kastrup : > Janek Warchoł writes: > >> 2013/4/7 David Kastrup : >>> Packing actual executables could possibly also work with reasonable >>> overhead. >>> >>> There would be an advantage to a repository storing _complete_ compi

Re: tracking lilypond builds with git

2013-04-07 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/4/7 Phil Holmes : > - Original Message - From: "Janek Warchoł" >> However, i'd be very interested in seeing a solution for this (i.e. >> how to efficiently store lily executables in a repository). > > Not convinced it's worth doing. Th

Re: tracking lilypond builds with git

2013-04-07 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/7 Phil Holmes : > - Original Message - From: "Janek Warchoł" >> yeah, i do that too (had 20+ builds at one point of time). > > A quick count shows I've got about 77 builds on my Windows box... Whoah! Y

Re: shortening a stem

2013-04-08 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/4/8 Werner LEMBERG : >> > what must I write to shorten an unbeamed stem by, say, one unit? >> > A naive approach would be >> > >> > \once \override Stem.length #(- ly:stem::calc-length 1) >> > >> > which doesn't work of course... >> >> David Nalesnik wrote a very versatile function that

Re: Unequal spacing in odd-n tuplet with other simultaneous subdivisions

2013-04-08 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/8 James Harkins : > Known issue? I'm seeing a strange problem with unequal spacing in the > third staff's septuplet. > [] I don't remember if this is reported, but i personally have encountered this situation several times. I have some idea how it's happening, and the bad news is that

Re: Question about score count

2013-04-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/9 Carl Peterson : > So...is there a command that would allow me to include a file only once (so > that if it is included a second time, it won't actually be executed) OR to > detect whether the variable has been initialized? I would prefer the first > since that would take care of some forma

Re: musicxml2ly enhancements

2013-04-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/9 Werner LEMBERG : >> Putting the bar number at the start of the line would require >> >> %{ 5 %} a,4 ( a4 ) ( b4 ) d4 | >> >> instead. > > I like that. It's tedious to type manually, but a computer program > doesn't know that word :-) Indeed, but i find it unreadable, especially if it w

Re: Question about left-aligning syllables at beginning of lines

2013-04-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/9 Carl Peterson : > I know this question has been posed before on this list, but either there > wasn't a definitive answer that I could find or I just couldn't understand > it. I know that I can manually trigger left-aligning syllables at the > beginning of lines, using > > \once \override L

Re: Question about left-aligning syllables at beginning of lines

2013-04-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/9 Carl Peterson : > As I mentioned in another thread, I'm working on a hymnal/psalter project > and ideally would like to justify both the left and right edges of each line > of lyrics. Interesting. I don't quite see why you would want that - i'd have to see a picture. Anyway, i'm pretty s

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/9 David Kastrup : > Urs Liska writes: > >> It seems this is Sibelius 7's default. See attached PNG. > > Huh? The perfectly rendered stafflines make it clear that this is not a > scanned image. But clef, noteheads and text are rendered _appallingly_ > awful, like it would be dithering

Re: Cropped output (à la -dpreview) possible in Finale and Sibelius

2013-04-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/9 David Kastrup : > Janek Warchoł writes: > >> 2013/4/9 David Kastrup : >>> Urs Liska writes: >>> >>>> It seems this is Sibelius 7's default. See attached PNG. >>> >>> Huh? The perfectly rendered stafflines make it cle

Re: Question about left-aligning syllables at beginning of lines

2013-04-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/4/9 Carl Peterson : > The best I can do for a sample at the moment is this PDF that is an > advertisement for a hymnal that uses left-justified first syllables. It does > not right-justify the last syllables. > > http://www.sumphoniahymnal.com/copy-content/hymnal-info-toc.pdf Hmm. I see

Re: Color-coding \voiceXXX contents?

2013-04-09 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/10 Urs Liska : > Is it possible to hook into the \voiceXXX commands to (optionally) color-code > them? > This could be helpful when dealing with complex polyphonic situations. > In my experience it is often enough to assign the right voice to get the > spacing right, and it would be nice i

Re: Vocal music sheet - hyphens wrongly engraved

2013-04-10 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/10 Jun Wang : > Hi Phil > > I tried nwc2ly, the converted lilypond file version is 2.15.26. and It gave > some syntax error under my 2.16.2 system. > Any way to convert 2.15.26 to my current version or I have install a old > version? sure, just use convert-ly: http://www.lilypond.org/doc/

Re: Vocal music sheet - hyphens wrongly engraved

2013-04-11 Thread Janek Warchoł
Phil. 2013/4/11 Phil Holmes : > Jun, > > [...] > I hope my notes have been useful and you'll persevere with my converter and > lilypond. There's some learning to do, but the results are worth it, IMHO. Is the attached pdf the default output after running the song through the converter? If so, i

polishing clef transpositions to perfection

2013-04-11 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, the patch that corrects clef transposition positioning is 99% ready; now it's only waiting until my rewrite of self-alignment-interface will be accepted (that will unfortunately take some time, but some features available after that rewrite are needed to position all clef transpositions correc

Re: Help with espressivo adjustments

2013-04-13 Thread Janek Warchoł
This excellent! it's premium material for extending manual - could you post it as a patch? If you don't have time to texinfo it, let's at least add an issue to the tracker. Janek 2013/4/13 Thomas Morley : > 2013/4/12 SoundsFromSound : >> Thomas: >> >> That works beautifully! >> >> When you get

Re: how do I change enharmonic spellings produced by the /transpose function?

2013-04-13 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/13 robert edge : > I write music that is not strictly tonal, and years ago I adopted the > convention of always using the same enharmonic spellings. So my chromatic > scale goes: c cis d ees e f fis g aes a bes b. I never write something like > an A sharp or a G flat. > > Anyone have any i

Re: Help with espressivo adjustments

2013-04-15 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/4/15 Thomas Morley : > for some time I'm thinking about writing a tutorial about overriding > stencils, manipulating them, adding or combining sth, how to create a > new etc, etc ... > I'm not familiar with texinfo, though the main problem is my lack of time. > And currently I've less tha

Re: Barcheck problems in extremely simple file

2013-04-15 Thread Janek Warchoł
You need to specify duration for the rest. When there's no initial duration, LilyPond assumes a quarter, and that conflicts with the barcheck. hth, Janek 2013/4/15 Peter Toye : > Another newbie alert! > > I'm getting barcheck problems when putting in full bar rests and can't work > out why. The

Re: Lyric placement and tempo woes

2013-04-16 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/16 Peter Toye : > > 1) I'm trying to arrange a part song with lyrics for each stave. The snippet > below puts the lyrics at the bottom of all the staves - but I seem to be > copying the manual. See Warlock2OK attached. \addlyrics should be outside of \new Staff { } hth, Janek

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

2013-04-16 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/16 Richard Shann : > On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 15:44 +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> btw, maybe it would be possible to skip that "click on the middle >> line" part of you used David Nalesnik's \offset >> https://codereview.appspot.com/8647044/ ? > &

Re: how offsets and alignment works: an explanation

2013-04-16 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/16 Richard Shann : > On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 19:22 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: >> Does placing it in a separate \layout block help? >> > \layout { > \override Slur #'stencil = #(display-control-points #t) > } > does work - I feel stupid now, but I didn't try that because it seemed > to me th

Re: Scheme education

2013-04-19 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/19 David Kastrup : > Urs Liska writes: >> That reminds me of my plan to have an issue tracker for my life ;-) >> Oh, and I forgot the 'rebase -i' ... > > With your brain being the SHA-40 of your history and the world > being the SHA-70

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

2013-04-21 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/19 Richard Shann : > Here is a short demo showing dragging the shape of a slur in Denemo > > https://vimeo.com/64408182 > > The code to do this is in Denemo's git repository now. Wow!! You know, i almost cried when watching :) You are using \shape to store modifications to the control poin

Re: Font Issue; characters not printed.

2013-04-21 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/4/20 Kale Good : > The not-appearing characters was a pdf view problem. The ligature isn't > isn't, however. But the litagure issue is also non-essential for my > purposes, so I can move forward from here. Thanks. We know that kerning and ligatures don't quite work on Windows: http://cod

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

2013-04-21 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/21 Richard Shann : > On Sun, 2013-04-21 at 10:38 +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> 2013/4/19 Richard Shann : >> > Here is a short demo showing dragging the shape of a slur in Denemo >> > >> > https://vimeo.com/64408182 >> > >> > The code t

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

2013-04-21 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, excellent!! 2013/4/20 Urs Liska : > Of course it isn't fair to keep a judgment in one's heart that is based > on software more than a decade old, but my most prominent recollection > of my work with Finale is: > - Enter some music > - Make corrections: > - Move an object > - switch direct

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

2013-04-22 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/4/22 Urs Liska : > I'm in a hurry to prepare the material for the oral presentation. Good luck! If a recording will be available, i'd gladly watch it. > I will leave out as much of the technical details as possible and focus > on an endorsement of what can be done (and not how it is to

Re: some Musikmesse and MusicXML

2013-04-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
Many thanks for this report! You made me realize that i didn't promote LilyPond actively enough. We have unique features to offer and people in the music industry should know about us. cheers, Janek 2013/4/22 Klaus Föhl : > Hello, > > As Urs initiated quite some discussion with his 'lobbying' p

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

2013-04-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/22 David Kastrup : > Urs Liska writes: > >> Am Montag, den 22.04.2013, 11:41 +0200 schrieb David Kastrup: >>> Urs Liska writes: >>> >>> >> > [...] MusicXML [...] >>> >> >>> >> indeed. >>> >> ;) >>> > I'd actually say it is crucial to have that in order to get LilyPond a >>> > foot in the p

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

2013-04-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/23 David Kastrup : > Janek Warchoł writes: >> Technically speaking, you are 100% correct. I agree that talking >> doesn't get the job done, and i understand the frustration when >> someone reminds you about an issue that you remember very well but >> don

Re: Request for feedback on 'lobbying' paper

2013-04-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/23 David Kastrup : > Janek Warchoł writes: > >> 2013/4/23 David Kastrup : >>> But what word are we spreading? "Can it work with our existing >>> scores and data, possibly through MusicXML?" "No, but if it could, >>> it would likely

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

2013-04-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/23 Richard Shann : > On Sun, 2013-04-21 at 22:11 +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> > what would be the nicest syntax using that data? >> >> \shape by David Nalesnik (it's awesome!) Docs are here: >> http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.17/Documentation/notation/m

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

2013-04-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/23 Richard Shann : > On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 17:16 +0200, Urs Liska wrote: >> David Nalesnik schrieb: >> >I'm a little confused here too. I watched the demo (very cool, BTW!) >> >and you are starting with a default curve, if I'm not mistaken. > > Well, only if the user clicks accurately on t

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

2013-04-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/23 Richard Shann : > On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 17:49 +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> What about this: ask the user to drag the control points. Then he >> doesn't have to click precisely on the control point. > > ... well, continuing from my email in response to Urs &g

Re: Extension:Score

2013-04-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
Wow! I thought that was abandoned. Great news! Now let's just fix 2658, release 2.18, tell mediawiki to upgrade and we can begin replacing all ugly Sibelius-made examples with Lily! Yippie! Janek 2013/4/23 Klaus Föhl : > Hello, > > Just snooping around and discovering that this markup: > \relati

Re: Setting X-offset and Y-offset graphically.

2013-04-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/23 Richard Shann : > On Tue, 2013-04-23 at 18:23 +0200, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> Hey, i have an idea: what about conbining both approaches? >> - user enters slur editing mode, control points appear. >> - user clicks on first control point >> - holding the mous

Re: How to get dynamics centred on a piano staff?

2013-04-23 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/22 Peter Toye : > > Also, I have to use the << || >> construction a lot because there's a mix of > homophonic and polyphonic writing. I can't work out how to start (say) a > crescendo in the middle of a polyphonic section and terminate it in a > monophonic section, and vice-versa, as LP asso

Re: Lobbying paper follow-up

2013-04-25 Thread Janek Warchoł
generally, +1 for everything. 2013/4/25 Urs Liska : > Do you know of someone > having actually recovered from a text file suffering from a disk crash - > and not having spent more work than starting again from scratch? Myself, to sme extent. I accidentally erased my whole disk and had to use file

Re: accidentals and broken bars

2013-05-03 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/4/29 Werner LEMBERG : > >>> \relative c'' { >>> cis4 cis \bar"" \break >>> cis cis >>>} >> >> How about >> >> \relative c'' { >> cis4 cis \bar"" \break >> cis! cis >> } > > Thanks, but this makes an additional accidental in case the bar > doesn't get broken. I want a s

Re: Lyrics and Punctuations Alignment Issue?

2013-05-07 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/5/6 Jun Wang : > > Since this issue is so common, I wonder if we could add this feature to the > lilypond code base? Definitely. This was already reported: http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2451 And (after a long wait) much of the work is already done; now it's waiting for t

Re: Lyrics and Punctuations Alignment Issue?

2013-05-07 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi David, 2013/5/7 David Nalesnik : > Just a workaround, for the time being :) Well, the issue is not that complicated, and a real fix will (conceptually) be quite similar to yours. > Thanks for your work on these issues! Don't thank until the code isn't in the official repository ;-) > BTW, w

Re: Lyrics and Punctuations Alignment Issue?

2013-05-07 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/5/7 David Kastrup : > Janek Warchoł writes: > >> 2013/5/7 David Nalesnik : >>> BTW, will the enhancement be able to handle multi-byte characters? >> >> That's not done yet, but i will try until it will handle them. > > It would likely mak

Re: exponential crescendo... / Mike "experimental" spanners?

2013-05-08 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/5/9 padovani : > Would there be another way to do that? (which would span to the right note, > and accept "dal niente" circle, for example?) > > %%code > \relative c' { > \once \override Hairpin #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print > \once \override Hairpin #'text = \markup{ > \path #0.1 > #

Re: DevNull produces strange output

2013-05-10 Thread Janek Warchoł
2012/10/29 David Kastrup : > The definition of Devnull is > > \context { > \name "Devnull" > \type "Engraver_group" > > %% don't want to route anything out of here: > \alias "Staff" > \alias "Voice" > \description "Silently discards all musical information given to this > context." > } >

many users don't know about \shape

2013-05-10 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/5/10 Alberto Simões : > > On 10/05/13 14:17, Urs Liska wrote: >> >> Am 10.05.2013 15:15, schrieb Alberto Simões: >>> > The snippet in > http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/__Snippet?id=748 >>> >>> And unfortunately it doesn't work pretty well on cross-staff slurs.

Re: many users don't know about \shape

2013-05-10 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/5/10 David Kastrup : > Janek Warchoł writes: >> I'm wondering whether we should advertise \shape more. It's >> tremendously helpful, and yet despite it had been added ~1 year ago >> (IIRC) many users don't know about it. > > I'm some

lilynet down?

2013-05-11 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, lilynet.net seems to be down. Do you know anything about it? Maybe the domain has expired or something (maybe this http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2013-05/msg00077.html wasn't scam after all?).. Janek ___ lilypond-user mailing lis

Re: many users don't know about \shape

2013-05-11 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/5/11 Federico Bruni : > > 2013/5/11 Janek Warchoł >> >> I'm 100% for automated typesetting: it's my dream and the very reason >> why i'm using LilyPond. >> However, my experience (particularly with Fried project) shows that >> with

Re: many users don't know about \shape

2013-05-11 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/5/11 David Kastrup : > Janek Warchoł writes: >> my experience (particularly with Fried project) shows that >> with regard to slurs and ties, LilyPond is very far from automated >> typesetting. If you want publication quality, you _have_ to tweak the >> output quite

Re: many users don't know about \shape

2013-05-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, 2013/5/12 David Kastrup : > David Nalesnik writes: > > [\shape] > >> As I said above, it is most useful when such layout details as line and >> page breaks are settled--as, of course, is directly overriding control >> points, > > Well, it's good that we have it, and bad that we need it. That

Re: Modern custodes?

2013-05-12 Thread Janek Warchoł
2013/5/12 : > Is there a way to use the custodes feature of LilyPond, but with modern > glyphs (for example normal notes with the \teeny size), instead of the funny > medieval glyphs? I see in: > > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.16/Documentation/notation/ancient-notation_002d_002dcommon-features#cust

alternative notation for tuplets (idea)?

2010-10-15 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, an idea about tuplets came to my head (and a quick seach suggested that it wasn't discussed before). In LilyPond we write durations in form of denominators, i.e. c4 = "c note that lasts 1/4 the duration of a whole note", d16 = "d note with a duration 16 times shorter than whole note" etc., but

Re: how to change indent in only one (non-first) system?

2010-10-17 Thread Janek Warchoł
Strange, i thought i've sent a reply, but i don't see it now - looks like it was lost in the traffic... 2010/10/15 James Bailey > > On Oct 15, 2010, at 12:09 AM, Janek Warchoł wrote: > > In the following example, how can i make an indent in the third system > (the one in

help with moving dynamic marks needed

2010-10-17 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi, below is a piece of a well-known chorus :) Unfortunately, high bass notes with accents and forte mark, combined with tenor lyrics, add up to incredible between-staff-space, and in effect unacceptable system height... I've tried doing some things described here

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