Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-08 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 7/8/09 6:27 PM, "Graham Percival" wrote: > > Now for *my* rant. > > As I've said before, I stopped using lilypond 4-5 years ago. Last > Fall, I briefly got back into improving the engraving of my old > compositions, but that stopped when I went to Singapore. > > So why am I still around

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/7/9 Graham Percival : > Now for *my* rant. Man, I wish you had kept that for the next Postcard :) OK, now this has just made me want to get working on the Report again. (sigh) Regards, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.o

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-08 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jul 08, 2009 at 11:54:05AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > On di, 2009-07-07 at 23:26 -0700, Graham Percival wrote: > > Hi Graham, > > > I disagree; I think we've spent *too much* time on the look/feel > > Yes, I understand that's how you feel. It's exactly why I sent my mail, > and wh

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-08 Thread Patrick Horgan
Valentin Villenave wrote: Anyway, I think we're living exciting times with regards to LilyPond, and no matter how long it takes I do believe we're making history right here :-) That's exciting!!! And I believe true. And I believe that although there is much credit to go around, we should r

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-08 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jul 8, 2009, at 4:54 AM, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: On di, 2009-07-07 at 23:26 -0700, Graham Percival wrote: Hi Graham, I disagree; I think we've spent *too much* time on the look/feel Yes, I understand that's how you feel. It's exactly why I sent my mail, and why I reacted so strongly

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/7/8 Jan Nieuwenhuizen : > Valentin's site attracts my initial attention and gives a professional > feel.  Much more than both the lilypond.org sites.  Possibly he/we > could/should  merge this site even with lilypond.org.  I don't know. I agree that the very first look is important. (which is

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-08 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
On di, 2009-07-07 at 23:26 -0700, Graham Percival wrote: Hi Graham, > I disagree; I think we've spent *too much* time on the look/feel Yes, I understand that's how you feel. It's exactly why I sent my mail, and why I reacted so strongly on this. > Modifying the CSS files can be done at any time

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jul 06, 2009 at 03:27:56PM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > A lot of [very important] work on content and structure has been > done and discussed about, I'd really like to see some work/proposals/ > discussions on how the site could look/feel, looking through your > eyelashes. I disagree;

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-07 Thread Patrick Horgan
Valentin Villenave wrote: 2009/7/6 Mark Polesky : I also like the layout of gimp.org. Click their menu links too. Nice looking site. Since you're mentioning that, http://www.blender.org/ has a top-menu that is very similar to the new Lily website's draft. It was nice

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-07 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 01:49:42AM -0700, Mark Polesky wrote: > > I'm with Chip here. Explicit, unambiguous, fool-proof. Have you > noticed the troubles I've had recently with abbreviated > instructions? (: Assume nothing; assume the user is a robot. I see an inconsistency here. As far as we kno

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-06 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/7/6 Mark Polesky : > I also like the layout of gimp.org. > Click their menu links too. > Nice looking site. Since you're mentioning that, http://www.blender.org/ has a top-menu that is very similar to the new Lily website's draft. Regards, Valentin _

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-06 Thread Mark Polesky
Patrick McCarty wrote: > What's really awesome about tinto-taal.nl is that the rounded corners > are implemented with SVG images! I also like the layout of gimp.org. Click their menu links too. Nice looking site. - Mark ___ lilypond-user m

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-06 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > On vr, 2009-07-03 at 14:41 -0700, Graham Percival wrote: > >> Here it is: >> http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_1.html#Home > > Okay, so this is starting to be really great. > > Now, I know you have not been spending to

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-06 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Francisco Vila wrote: > 2009/7/6 Valentin Villenave : >> 2009/7/6 Jan Nieuwenhuizen : >>> Just by accident I looked upon Valentin's page, if only we would >>> be able to steel the header images/gradient and possibly put nicely >>> rounded tabs into the bottom of that

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-06 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/7/6 Valentin Villenave : > 2009/7/6 Jan Nieuwenhuizen : >> Just by accident I looked upon Valentin's page, if only we would >> be able to steel the header images/gradient and possibly put nicely >> rounded tabs into the bottom of that header gradient >> [CSS stealing suggestion: http://tinto-t

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-06 Thread Valentin Villenave
2009/7/6 Jan Nieuwenhuizen : > Just by accident I looked upon Valentin's page, if only we would > be able to steel the header images/gradient and possibly put nicely > rounded tabs into the bottom of that header gradient > [CSS stealing suggestion: http://tinto-taal.nl ] and also steal > other roun

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-06 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
On vr, 2009-07-03 at 14:41 -0700, Graham Percival wrote: > Here it is: > http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_1.html#Home Okay, so this is starting to be really great. Now, I know you have not been spending too much work on the slick looks side of things, but do we have volunt

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-05 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Werner LEMBERG wrote: I suppose this your piano piece is written for Qwerty Uiop[1], the Gelatine Prince from 2364th dimension, who actually plays piano with his jelly feet... IMHO, using `Hände' is better. Haha! I wasn't aware of the Qwerty Prince, but perhaps a dedication line is in order

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-05 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> A small grammatical correction: >> Ohne Händchen, mit *den* Füßen zu spielen >> BTW, is this title your invention or do you cite something? The >> German diminutive `Händchen' has some additional connotations which >> makes this `joke' sound a bit strange, especially because you don't >> use

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-05 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Werner LEMBERG wrote: I just made up and typeset a 2nd-Viennese style excerpt, too. (attached) A small grammatical correction: Ohne Händchen, mit *den* Füßen zu spielen BTW, is this title your invention or do you cite something? The German diminutive `Händchen' has some additional connotat

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I just made up and typeset a 2nd-Viennese style excerpt, > too. (attached) A small grammatical correction: Ohne Händchen, mit *den* Füßen zu spielen BTW, is this title your invention or do you cite something? The German diminutive `Händchen' has some additional connotations which makes thi

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-04 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Graham Percival wrote: To clarify: - I want somebody to ORGANIZE the examples. As in "look at the current input/*.ly examples, look at the inspirational headwords, look at mutopia, ask for offers of help on -user, look at snippets, make them up himself, etc.". Or some combination thereof.

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-04 Thread chip
Tim McNamara wrote: On Jul 4, 2009, at 3:49 AM, Mark Polesky wrote: chip wrote: Generally speaking, when it comes to Windows documentation - it is almost always dummy proof. Showing every step one might come across during the process. It applies to XP as that is what I use, should apply equal

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-04 Thread Tim McNamara
On Jul 4, 2009, at 3:49 AM, Mark Polesky wrote: chip wrote: Generally speaking, when it comes to Windows documentation - it is almost always dummy proof. Showing every step one might come across during the process. It applies to XP as that is what I use, should apply equally to NT and 2000. Ne

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-04 Thread Mark Polesky
chip wrote: > Generally speaking, when it comes to Windows documentation - it > is almost always dummy proof. Showing every step one might come > across during the process. It applies to XP as that is what I > use, should apply equally to NT and 2000. Never seen ME, does > anyone actually use it?

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-03 Thread chip
I posted my previous message before you posted yours. Generally speaking, when it comes to Windows documentation - it is almost always dummy proof. Showing every step one might come across during the process. It applies to XP as that is what I use, should apply equally to NT and 2000. Never se

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 05:43:05PM -0700, chip wrote: > Wow, that was quick, glad to see it was acceptable. Oh, I'm talking > about the Windows installation instructions. Err, wait a moment. I never said it was acceptable; I listed a few problems with it. I added it because it was better than

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-03 Thread chip
Wow, that was quick, glad to see it was acceptable. Oh, I'm talking about the Windows installation instructions. Regards, Chip ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-03 Thread Graham Percival
Thanks! I added this to the page, but are you certain you need all those steps, and/or are you certain the explanation needs to be as verbose as it is? I would expect most windows users to be familiar with things like accepting a license agreement or clicking the Next button. Also, is the first

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-03 Thread chip
I noticed on the new site that the section Windows/Packages/Install and Uninstall needs to be written, so I did that. I uninstalled my Lily and downloaded and installed the latest version. The text file is attached. Hope this helps, Chip Graham Percival wrote: Here it is: http://percival-music

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 05:53:14PM -0500, Jonathan Kulp wrote: > Graham Percival wrote: >> - would somebody volunteer to do the Examples already?!?! all you >> need to do is play with lilypond files. No texinfo, html, or >> git required. Guidelines on the Examples page. >> ... Mao, I expecte

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-03 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Graham Percival wrote: - I'd also like somebody to do the Features page, but I admit this would be better done by somebody with a small amount of texinfo knowledge. That said, there weren't be much formatting on the page, so if somebody sends me a plaintext file with a few images, I'll

Re: website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-03 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Graham Percival wrote: Here it is: http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_1.html#Home - would somebody volunteer to do the Examples already?!?! all you need to do is play with lilypond files. No texinfo, html, or git required. Guidelines on the Examples page. ... Mao, I e

website draft 4, help wanted

2009-07-03 Thread Graham Percival
Here it is: http://percival-music.ca/blogfiles/out/lilypond-general_1.html#Home - would somebody volunteer to do the Examples already?!?! all you need to do is play with lilypond files. No texinfo, html, or git required. Guidelines on the Examples page. ... Mao, I expected that I'd need to