Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-20 Thread Urs Liska
Am 20.07.2014 11:10, schrieb Janek Warchoł: Hi folks, as you can see, i'm falling behind with lilypond stuff, but i wanted to let you know that i've skimmed through this discussion and it LGTM. The only comment i have is: try to make things as simple as possible (but not simpler, of course) - i

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-20 Thread Janek Warchoł
Hi folks, as you can see, i'm falling behind with lilypond stuff, but i wanted to let you know that i've skimmed through this discussion and it LGTM. The only comment i have is: try to make things as simple as possible (but not simpler, of course) - i wouldn't like openlilylib getting a "java-smel

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-08 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.07.2014 16:48, schrieb Paul Morris: Urs Liska wrote >Hm, I think I_must not_ start with such a script right now, since I >know that this - although being not too complex - will eat up too much >of my time and concentration. > >But your message triggered a little bit of thought, and I came

Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Urs Liska
On 7. Juli 2014 16:48:44 MESZ, Paul Morris wrote: >Uns Liska wrote >> Hm, I think I _must not_ start with such a script right now, since I >> know that this - although being not too complex - will eat up too >much >> of my time and concentration. >> >> But your message triggered a little bit

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Paul Morris
Uns Liska wrote > Hm, I think I _must not_ start with such a script right now, since I > know that this - although being not too complex - will eat up too much > of my time and concentration. > > But your message triggered a little bit of thought, and I came to the > conclusion that we should u

Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.07.2014 12:01, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Am 07.07.2014 11:46, schrieb Urs Liska: I followed the discussion only roughly, but I think it is a step in the right direction. I'd like to bring up the scheme-modules, I came up with. They need a fixed folder-structure and need to be updated accord

Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Am 07.07.2014 11:46, schrieb Urs Liska: >> I followed the discussion only roughly, but I think it is a step in the >> right direction. I'd like to bring up the scheme-modules, I came up >> with. They need a fixed folder-structure and need to be updated >> according to the path they are stored in. >

Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.07.2014 11:37, schrieb Jan-Peter Voigt: Hi Urs and all, I followed the discussion only roughly, but I think it is a step in the right direction. I'd like to bring up the scheme-modules, I came up with. They need a fixed folder-structure and need to be updated according to the path they are

Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Jan-Peter Voigt
Hi Urs and all, I followed the discussion only roughly, but I think it is a step in the right direction. I'd like to bring up the scheme-modules, I came up with. They need a fixed folder-structure and need to be updated according to the path they are stored in. Should we have a dedicated folder fo

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.07.2014 10:37, schrieb Urs Liska: Am 07.07.2014 09:55, schrieb Urs Liska: Maybe we can have a compromise. A script parsing the content of the tags field from all files shouldn't be hard to write. So we could: - agree upon an initial set of categories - agree upon a naming convention for ta

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.07.2014 09:55, schrieb Urs Liska: Maybe we can have a compromise. A script parsing the content of the tags field from all files shouldn't be hard to write. So we could: - agree upon an initial set of categories - agree upon a naming convention for tags (e.g. the same dashed-lowercase-sch

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 06.07.2014 17:15, schrieb Paul Morris: Uns Liska wrote Starting by tagging the existing snippets sounds fine to me. But not tagging directly but collecting suggestions first. Then decide about a set of tags and apply them during the move. Ok, sure. Something to consider: since you are pl

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-06 Thread Paul Morris
Uns Liska wrote >>Starting by tagging the existing snippets sounds fine to me. > > But not tagging directly but collecting suggestions first. Then decide > about a set of tags and apply them during the move. Ok, sure. Something to consider: since you are planning on writing a script to walk thro

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-06 Thread Urs Liska
On 6. Juli 2014 16:12:56 MESZ, Paul Morris wrote: >Uns Liska wrote >> Some of them are good, some of them less so, I think. >> Maybe we could start going through the existing snippets and consider > >> possible tags for each of them. This will make a pool of suggestions >> where we can filter o

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-06 Thread Paul Morris
Uns Liska wrote > Some of them are good, some of them less so, I think. > Maybe we could start going through the existing snippets and consider > possible tags for each of them. This will make a pool of suggestions > where we can filter out from. > > One question I still have is: Should the tags

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-05 Thread Urs Liska
Am 05.07.2014 18:22, schrieb Paul Morris: Uns Liska wrote I have updated the Wiki page https://github.com/openlilylib/openlilylib/wiki and added a note about the reorganization process in the README.md on the restructuring branch. It's looking good to me. From the wiki page: "Probably it's

Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-05 Thread Paul Morris
Uns Liska wrote > I have updated the Wiki page > https://github.com/openlilylib/openlilylib/wiki > > and added a note about the reorganization process in the README.md on > the restructuring branch. It's looking good to me. From the wiki page: "Probably it's a good idea to assign a primary tag

Re: [SPAM] Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-05 Thread Urs Liska
Am 05.07.2014 10:31, schrieb Urs Liska: Thanks. I think we will have to reconsider our metadata section and then do the transfer in that "reorganization" branch. I strongly suggest to excusively do that using pull requests, even among the members with push access. One more thing I would suggest

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-05 Thread Urs Liska
Am 05.07.2014 05:30, schrieb Paul Morris: Uns Liska wrote I can see the point and I'm ready to accept that approach. There is one issue, however, that I'd like to discuss before making any decision. \include "file-name.ily" opens the door wide for name conflicts. The more the names are s

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Paul Morris
Uns Liska wrote > I can see the point and I'm ready to accept that approach. There is one > issue, however, that I'd like to discuss before making any decision. > > \include "file-name.ily" > > opens the door wide for name conflicts. The more the names are speaking > the more they will be

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Urs Liska
Am 04.07.2014 17:14, schrieb Paul Morris: Uns Liska wrote Am 03.07.2014 19:50, schrieb Paul Morris: Hi Urs, This is looking like an improvement to me. Here's a thought. If the emphasis is on include-ability, what about just having all the include files at the same level in the "Library" direc

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-07-04 17:14 GMT+02:00 Paul Morris : > One nice thing about decoupling the actual location of the files (their > include path) from the categories/tags/navigation structure, is that you > can > change the latter as needed as the library changes and matures, without > breaking compatibility wit

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Paul Morris
Uns Liska wrote > Am 03.07.2014 19:50, schrieb Paul Morris: >> Hi Urs, This is looking like an improvement to me. Here's a thought. >> If >> the emphasis is on include-ability, what about just having all the >> include >> files at the same level in the "Library" directory, without needing to >>

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-07-03 17:51 GMT+02:00 Noeck : > I'd like to second especially the renaming/reodering of the > definitions file. It looks better without definition(s).ily at the end. > Me too, speaking file names are much better ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilyp

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Federico Bruni
2014-07-04 12:23 GMT+02:00 Urs Liska : >- I don't see yet what would go into »specific instruments/repertoire« >> > > For example shortcuts for staff changes in piano music. > Snippets for specific bending techniques for guitar. > Lute tablature. This way the bending techniques for guitar wo

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Urs Liska
Am 03.07.2014 17:51, schrieb Noeck: Hi, I like your ideas on the wiki. - I'd like to second especially the renaming/reodering of the definitions file. It looks better without definition(s).ily at the end. However, it means that the content of the library doubles (one folder and one ily). I am n

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Urs Liska
Sounds interesting, but I don't thing the time is ready for that. There has been discussion of providing a structure similar to the "TEXMF" tree in LaTeX distributions. This would be a place where "library" additions or "packages" could be stored to and made available in the official LilyPond d

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-04 Thread Urs Liska
Am 03.07.2014 19:50, schrieb Paul Morris: Uns Liska wrote I think that after an initial phase of trial & error we should now do it right and create a structure we can live with for the future. Hi Urs, This is looking like an improvement to me. Here's a thought. If the emphasis is on include

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-03 Thread Jay Anderson
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Urs Liska wrote: > Our repository has now lived for some time, and I think it is a good thing > to have and maintain. The recent renaming was partially intended to stress > its nature as an _includable_ library (as opposed to the official LSR). But > to make that wo

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-03 Thread Paul Morris
Uns Liska wrote > I think that after an initial phase of trial & error we should > now do it right and create a structure we can live with for the future. Hi Urs, This is looking like an improvement to me. Here's a thought. If the emphasis is on include-ability, what about just having all the

Re: [openlilylib] Discuss restructuring

2014-07-03 Thread Noeck
Hi, I like your ideas on the wiki. - I'd like to second especially the renaming/reodering of the definitions file. It looks better without definition(s).ily at the end. However, it means that the content of the library doubles (one folder and one ily). I am not sure, if it is a good idea, but the