Re: Part 2 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-02-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/2/4, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Interesting! I must admit that I found nothing objectionable with > the "which"es that Kurt suggested replacing with "that"... > actually, in a few cases, I thought that "which" sounded better. I often use which, because I like it much more than "

Re: Part 1 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-02-08 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/2/3, Kurt Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On page 10, first paragraph -- In that case, "Double accidentals ..." What > is this sentence quoting? Perhaps it should just be integrated into the > sentence. It was originally a feature request posted by an user on the mailing-list; and the contrib

Re: Part 2 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26 [OT]

2008-02-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 14:34:43 -0500 (EST) Ralph Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Accidentals are only printed on tied notes which > > begin a new system: > > Each to his/her own I guess. > > In this case "that" is correct and "which" is incorrect. > To me, "which" sounds strange in this cont

RE: Part 2 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26 [OT]

2008-02-04 Thread Ralph Little
> Accidentals are only printed on tied notes which > begin a new system: Each to his/her own I guess. In this case "that" is correct and "which" is incorrect. To me, "which" sounds strange in this context. It implies to me that tied notes begin a new system *which* is, of course, untrue. :) Wh

Re: Part 2 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26 [OT]

2008-02-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 16:58:35 - "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Graham Percival wrote 04 February 2008 16:27 > > > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:42:55 -0600 > > Stan Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 4, 2008, at 9:19 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > > > > > >> I bet

Re: Part 2 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26 [OT]

2008-02-04 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Trevor (et al.), I think Kieren also meant the distinction between less and fewer :) Indeed! =) Perhaps it means, "Accidentals are printed on tied notes only when the note to which they are tied is on the previous system." Good point. Incidently, the MS Grammar checker -always- annoy

Re: Part 2 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26 [OT]

2008-02-04 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Graham, I mean, does this sentence _actually_ bother anybody? Or make it unclear? No... but there *are* things in NR 1.1 Pitches which *could* be clearer. I'm teaching every week day, and have rehearsals every evening this week, but am hoping to get my NR 1.1 comments in soon. I am w

Re: Part 2 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26 [OT]

2008-02-04 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Stan, Might not the same arguments be applied to the benefits of knowing Lilypond's "grammar?" I agree: 1. By using "poor Lilypond grammar", I can write an .ly file which compiles and outputs a "valid" score of Beethoven 9, but is essentially unreadable (as an input file) by any human

RE: Part 2 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26 [OT]

2008-02-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival wrote 04 February 2008 16:27 > > On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:42:55 -0600 > Stan Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Feb 4, 2008, at 9:19 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > > > >> I bet that there's less than a hundred people > > > > > > You mean "I bet there are fewer than..."

Re: Part 2 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26 [OT]

2008-02-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:42:55 -0600 Stan Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 4, 2008, at 9:19 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: > > >> I bet that there's less than a hundred people > > > > You mean "I bet there are fewer than..." ;-) *hmph* In modern Canadian, an apostrophe followed by an `s'

Re: Part 2 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26 [OT]

2008-02-04 Thread Stan Sanderson
On Feb 4, 2008, at 9:19 AM, Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Graham, I bet that there's less than a hundred people You mean "I bet there are fewer than..." ;-) In all seriousness, while it may be true that "knowledge of formal grammar is [not] necessary to be a good writer", it is undeniable

Re: Part 2 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26 [OT]

2008-02-04 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Graham, I bet that there's less than a hundred people You mean "I bet there are fewer than..." ;-) In all seriousness, while it may be true that "knowledge of formal grammar is [not] necessary to be a good writer", it is undeniable that better grammarians make better writers, all othe

Re: Part 2 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-02-04 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:23:08 -0500 "Palmer, Ralph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > > My copy of The Scott, Foresman Handbook for Writers, Fourth Edition, > (1996), under "Problems with that, which, and who?" says, > Understand that both essential (re

Re: Part 2 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-02-04 Thread Palmer, Ralph
Greetings - Kurt wrote: -- Generally -- "which" and "that" have specific uses that we aren't observing very well. "That" introduces a restrictive subclause and should not be preceded by a comma. Removing this clause changes the meaning of the sentence, usually by mak

Re: Part 2 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-02-03 Thread Graham Percival
On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:43:19 -0800 Kurt Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Page 9, antepenultimate paragraph (missed this in my first go-round) > -- "For example, when entering music that [not which] begins on a > notated E (concert D) [moved this section up] for a B-flat trumpet, > one could writ

Re: Part 1 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-02-03 Thread Graham Percival
When I haven't commented on something, it means I took your suggestion. On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:26:22 -0800 Kurt Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Of course, the titles of the following subsections should be > considered. They are "Writing pitches", "Changing multiple > pitches" (but see below),

Re: Part 2 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-02-02 Thread Kurt Kroon
On 2/2/08 5:26 PM, "Kurt Kroon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 1/26/08 9:28 PM, "Graham Percival" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Final call for comments on NR 1.1 Pitches. Please note that this >> is our "demonstration" chapter, which will form the guidelines for >> the rest of the NR. So if

Part 1 of 2 -- Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-02-02 Thread Kurt Kroon
On 1/26/08 9:28 PM, "Graham Percival" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Final call for comments on NR 1.1 Pitches. Please note that this > is our "demonstration" chapter, which will form the guidelines for > the rest of the NR. So if there's anything that you don't like > about the general layout and

Re: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-01-31 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 12:10:23 - "Trevor Daniels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Relative octave entry: > There is a much simpler way of describing how this works. > It's in 2.1.2 of the LM: a note is placed in the octave > which is within three staff spaces of the previous note, > ignoring all ac

Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-01-31 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 05:47:04 -0800 (PST) till <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Graham Percival-2 wrote: > > By default, texinfo does not indent the first paragraph and > > indents all others; we need to specifically override this default > > behavior for the "strongly related" material. > > Well, I s

Re: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-01-31 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Valentin Villenave wrote: 2008/1/31, Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Relative octave entry: There is a much simpler way of describing how this works. It's in 2.1.2 of the LM: a note is placed in the octave which is within three staff spaces of the previous note, ignoring all accidental

Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-01-31 Thread till
? Is it an issue in html? Otherwise I would suggest to insert @lilypond/@example and so on without surrounding blank lines, in that way we would easily get the @noindent without writing it out. Greetings Till -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/GDP%3A-NR-1.1-Pitches--2008-01-26-t

Re: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-01-31 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/1/31, Trevor Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Relative octave entry: > There is a much simpler way of describing how this works. > It's in 2.1.2 of the LM: a note is placed in the octave > which is within three staff spaces of the previous note, > ignoring all accidentals. Simply count staff s

Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-01-31 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/1/31, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:27:24 +0100 > "Kess Vargavind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > CONTENTS > > Note names in other languages (last paragraph): > > > > "For both historical reasons and a greater simplicity, LilyPond uses a > > single 's' for all

RE: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-01-31 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham, you wrote: > > Final call for comments on NR 1.1 Pitches. In general all is very clear. I spotted only a couple of things to comment on: 1.1.1: Head: convient -> convenient Relative octave entry: There is a much simpler way of describing how this works. It's in 2.1.2 of the LM: a note

Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-01-31 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 11:27:24 +0100 "Kess Vargavind" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > CONTENTS > Note names in other languages (last paragraph): > > "For both historical reasons and a greater simplicity, LilyPond uses a > single 's' for all these languages." > > I'm not really sure what's intended wi

Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-01-31 Thread Kess Vargavind
This section/chapter looks much better than it does in the current manual. Many thanks from a musically inadept Lilypond beginner. CONTENTS Note names in other languages (last paragraph): "For both historical reasons and a greater simplicity, LilyPond uses a single 's' for all these languages."

Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-01-30 Thread Valentin Villenave
2008/1/30, Graham Percival <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Valentin, this is yours: > {transposing-pitches-with-minimum-accidentals-smart-transpose.ly} Thanks Mark, updated :) Cheers, Valentin ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.

Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-01-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:00:05 + Mark Knoop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Graham Percival wrote: > > Final call for comments on NR 1.1 Pitches. > > Just a couple of things: > > = Octave checks = Thanks, updated! > = Transpose = > == Selected snippets == > > The feature request quote should b

Re: GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-01-29 Thread Mark Knoop
Graham Percival wrote: Final call for comments on NR 1.1 Pitches. Just a couple of things: = Octave checks = "To check the octave of a specific note, add = quotes after the pitch." perhaps better: "To check the octave of a individual note, specify the absolute octave with the = symbol." An

GDP: NR 1.1 Pitches 2008-01-26

2008-01-26 Thread Graham Percival
Final call for comments on NR 1.1 Pitches. Please note that this is our "demonstration" chapter, which will form the guidelines for the rest of the NR. So if there's anything that you don't like about the general layout and policies of this section, please speak up now, before the entire NR is ch