Re: Build docs single thread first time

2020-03-09 Thread David Kastrup
ut >> that is not what you mean? > > I meant doc build after the binary is made. > >> I regularly run "make doc" with -j4 without issues. > > I used to make docs with -j7 succesfully but it always surprises me > how the _first_ time it _never_ succeeds. That's

Re: Build docs single thread first time

2020-03-09 Thread Francisco Vila
build uses lilypond, which is generated by the build process, so you first have to do "make" before doing "make doc". But that is not what you mean? I meant doc build after the binary is made. I regularly run "make doc" with -j4 without issues. I used to make docs

Re: Build docs single thread first time

2020-03-09 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 9:07 PM Francisco Vila wrote: > >> Sorry if it's in CG already, I could be wrong, but Doc build is not > >> multi-thread safe, first time at least. It uses files generated by the > >> build process itself. > >> > >> Right? well, the doc build uses lilypond, which is generat

Re: Build docs single thread first time

2020-03-09 Thread Francisco Vila
El 9/3/20 a las 20:41, David Kastrup escribió: Francisco Vila writes: Sorry if it's in CG already, I could be wrong, but Doc build is not multi-thread safe, first time at least. It uses files generated by the build process itself. Right? I tend to do make clean test-clean doc-clean CPU_COU

Re: Build docs single thread first time

2020-03-09 Thread David Kastrup
Francisco Vila writes: > Sorry if it's in CG already, I could be wrong, but Doc build is not > multi-thread safe, first time at least. It uses files generated by the > build process itself. > > Right? I tend to do make clean test-clean doc-clean CPU_COUNT=9 make -j9 && CPU_COUNT=9 make -j9 tes

Build docs single thread first time

2020-03-09 Thread Francisco Vila
Sorry if it's in CG already, I could be wrong, but Doc build is not multi-thread safe, first time at least. It uses files generated by the build process itself. Right? -- Francisco Vila, Ph.D. - Badajoz (Spain) paconet.org , lilypond.es

Re: R\fermata: How to update translated docs

2019-04-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> my third attempt to make R\fermata work (after > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2019-04/msg00069.html > and > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2019-04/msg00079.html) > seems to be successful: > https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/5511/ Great! > O

R\fermata: How to update translated docs

2019-04-19 Thread Malte Meyn
Hi list, my third attempt to make R\fermata work (after https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2019-04/msg00069.html and https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-devel/2019-04/msg00079.html) seems to be successful: https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/5511/ One of

Re: Google Season of Docs

2019-04-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 06.04.19 um 01:49 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: Hi Werner, Would this be of interest for LilyPond? https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/project-ideas It would be *very* valuable for OpenLilyLib… =) Indeed, but I don't think this program is suitable for that ... If

Re: Google Season of Docs

2019-04-06 Thread Jean-Charles Malahieude
Le 05/04/2019 à 20:46, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : Would this be of interest for LilyPond? This might help us going forward and profit from the evolution of texinfo, as well as recover the use of lilypond-doc.po that vanished with GDP. Cheers, Jean-Charles _

Re: Google Season of Docs

2019-04-05 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Werner, > Would this be of interest for LilyPond? > https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/project-ideas It would be *very* valuable for OpenLilyLib… =) Cheers, Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer ‣ website: www.kierenmacmillan.info ‣ em

Google Season of Docs

2019-04-05 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Would this be of interest for LilyPond? https://developers.google.com/season-of-docs/docs/project-ideas Improving the documentation would certainly be quite valuable. Given that we use the texinfo format, we could respond to the TeX Users Group's call for projects (thus CCing

Re: LSR snippet for docs

2018-12-26 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 26.12.18 um 11:51 schrieb pkx1...@runbox.com: Yes but I would add the snippet first to the NR as a patch (i.e. via ../snippets/new/..) and put it through review that way; then worry about the LSR 'website' later as the LSR is not independent the doc build process. I already added the sn

Re: LSR snippet for docs

2018-12-26 Thread pkx166h
Hello Malte, On 25/12/2018 12:09, Malte Meyn wrote: Hi list, for documentation of restNumberThreshold (https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/5251/) I made a snippet (http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=1078) that I would like to add to the NR. IIUC, the snippet now needs to be revie

LSR snippet for docs

2018-12-25 Thread Malte Meyn
Hi list, for documentation of restNumberThreshold (https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/5251/) I made a snippet (http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=1078) that I would like to add to the NR. IIUC, the snippet now needs to be reviewed and then I can add it to git and upload a patch

Re: No hint on outdated translated docs

2018-07-03 Thread James Lowe
Hello, On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 11:05:32 +0200, Francisco Vila wrote: > On 30/06/18 21:33, Federico Bruni wrote: > >Hi Simon > >There's already an open issue about this request. Opened by me, IIRC. > >I also suggested to move the language selection from the footer to the > >header of e

Re: No hint on outdated translated docs

2018-07-03 Thread Francisco Vila
On 30/06/18 21:33, Federico Bruni wrote: >Hi Simon >There's already an open issue about this request. Opened by me, IIRC. >I also suggested to move the language selection from the footer to the >header of each page. In another issue.. >It's all in the tracker. We miss someone wi

Re: No hint on outdated translated docs

2018-06-30 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 30.06.2018 21:33, Federico Bruni wrote: Hi Simon There's already an open issue about this request. Opened by me, IIRC. I also suggested to move the language selection from the footer to the header of each page. In another issue.. It's all in the tracker. We miss someone willing to work on

Re: No hint on outdated translated docs

2018-06-30 Thread Federico Bruni
Hi Simon There's already an open issue about this request. Opened by me, IIRC. I also suggested to move the language selection from the footer to the header of each page. In another issue.. It's all in the tracker. We miss someone willing to work on it. __

Re: No hint on outdated translated docs

2018-06-29 Thread David Kastrup
Simon Albrecht writes: > Hello everybody, > > Bernhard Kleine has pointed out that while it has been problematic for > years already to use e.g. the German version of the docs, because the > translation hasn’t been updated in a long time and many new features > are missing,

No hint on outdated translated docs

2018-06-29 Thread Simon Albrecht
Hello everybody, Bernhard Kleine has pointed out that while it has been problematic for years already to use e.g. the German version of the docs, because the translation hasn’t been updated in a long time and many new features are missing, the German docs do not make any hint of that

Re: Better discoverability for thin-variant Aiken heads: add to snippets, docs, or features?

2017-09-09 Thread James
Hello Karl, On Fri, 8 Sep 2017 18:47:56 + Karlin High wrote: > Back in June, I was typing up some Aiken-heads music for a client. We > ran into a problem shown in the attached PNG and LY files, where > white-head notes end up too dark at lower staff sizes. The problem was > resolved by us

Re: Better discoverability for thin-variant Aiken heads: add to snippets, docs, or features?

2017-09-08 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 9/8/17 12:47 PM, "lilypond-devel on behalf of Karlin High" wrote: > >a snippet for the LSR, >a reference in the documentation, perhaps under NR 1.1.4 Shape note heads, >adding a feature to LilyPond, the command \aikenHeadsThin > >Any preference from the developers? I've read some of the contri

Better discoverability for thin-variant Aiken heads: add to snippets, docs, or features?

2017-09-08 Thread Karlin High
Back in June, I was typing up some Aiken-heads music for a client. We ran into a problem shown in the attached PNG and LY files, where white-head notes end up too dark at lower staff sizes. The problem was resolved by using thin-variant Aiken heads. However, arriving at that solution was a litt

Re: Building issues (lilypond and docs)

2017-01-03 Thread Alexander Kobel
On 2016-12-30 22:04, Jay Anderson wrote: In response to this thread: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-12/msg00679.html I'm attempting to build lilypond. Hi Jay, thanks for looking into this. When building locally (an older version of mint linux) [...] Sorry, I have no

Re: Building issues (lilypond and docs)

2016-12-30 Thread James
On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 15:07:24 -0700 Jay Anderson wrote: > On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Phil Holmes > wrote: > > Just for clarity. RAM or disk? > > In the VM: > - Disk: 14gb (4.2gb used). > - Memory: 4gb (after increasing from 2gb) > > I started re-running the doc build about an hour ago.

Re: Building issues (lilypond and docs)

2016-12-30 Thread Jay Anderson
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Phil Holmes wrote: > Just for clarity. RAM or disk? In the VM: - Disk: 14gb (4.2gb used). - Memory: 4gb (after increasing from 2gb) I started re-running the doc build about an hour ago. Neither disk nor memory seem to be in danger of being used up. -Jay __

Re: Building issues (lilypond and docs)

2016-12-30 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Jay Anderson" To: "lilypond-devel" Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 9:04 PM Subject: Building issues (lilypond and docs) Moving on from that I tried using lilydev and it builds fine in the virtual machine, but when attempting `make doc

Building issues (lilypond and docs)

2016-12-30 Thread Jay Anderson
In response to this thread: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-12/msg00679.html I'm attempting to build lilypond. When building locally (an older version of mint linux) it ends with: make[1]: Entering directory `/home/jay/programming/lilypond/build/mf' mkdir -p ./out touch ./ou

Re: Code examples in docs

2016-04-09 Thread Urs Liska
Am 09.04.2016 um 15:27 schrieb Phil Holmes: > - Original Message - From: "Urs Liska" > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 7:11 AM > Subject: Re: Code examples in docs > > >> >> >> Am 07.04.2016 um 07:54 schrieb Urs Liska: >>>

Re: Code examples in docs

2016-04-09 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Urs Liska" To: Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 7:11 AM Subject: Re: Code examples in docs Am 07.04.2016 um 07:54 schrieb Urs Liska: Am 07.04.2016 um 07:50 schrieb Noeck: Hi Urs, a very uneducated guess: Could it be that the html page

Re: Code examples in docs

2016-04-09 Thread Urs Liska
Weitergeleitete Nachricht Betreff:Re: Code examples in docs Datum: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 12:56:12 +0100 Von:James An: Urs Liska Hello Urs On 09/04/16 12:27, Urs Liska wrote: > > Am 9. April 2016 12:56:42 MESZ, schrieb James : >> Urs, >>

Re: Code examples in docs

2016-04-07 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 4/7/16 4:54 PM, "Urs Liska" wrote: > >So it is really strange, I'm completely at a loss to find out where to >start looking further ... Have you worked your way through Phil's notes at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/contributor/the-function-of-mak e-doc Carl __

Re: Code examples in docs

2016-04-07 Thread Urs Liska
finally found out where the code in book_html.py actually leads to. With some brute force I took care of replacing the snippet and image with a paragraph that I could then grep in the rendered docs. And it ended up exclusively in the lilypond-book regtests. So obviously the book_XXX.py fi

Re: Code examples in docs

2016-04-07 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.04.2016 um 12:11 schrieb David Kastrup: > David Kastrup writes: > >> Carl Sorensen writes: >> >>> What about if you delete python/out and redo make doc? >>> >>> Just wondering if there's something wrong with the build script that >>> python/out isn't properly recreated when python/*.py ch

Re: Code examples in docs

2016-04-07 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > Carl Sorensen writes: > >> What about if you delete python/out and redo make doc? >> >> Just wondering if there's something wrong with the build script that >> python/out isn't properly recreated when python/*.py changes. In my >> setup, python/*.py is not executable, bu

Re: Code examples in docs

2016-04-07 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen writes: > What about if you delete python/out and redo make doc? > > Just wondering if there's something wrong with the build script that > python/out isn't properly recreated when python/*.py changes. In my > setup, python/*.py is not executable, but python/out/*.py is. So make i

Re: Code examples in docs

2016-04-07 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 4/7/16 12:11 AM, "lilypond-devel-bounces+c_sorensen=byu@gnu.org on behalf of Urs Liska" wrote: > > >However, when *deleting* the .py and .pyc files an error was triggered, >when lilypond-book tries to import book_html. > >Looking further into it I realized: >- book_base keeps an array with

Re: Code examples in docs

2016-04-06 Thread Urs Liska
ed is the code that wraps the source code of >> any LilyPond snippet in the docs in >> ...image >> >> However, modifying this didn't seem to have any effect, so I even went >> brute force up to emptying the complete file. Still make doc works >>

Re: Code examples in docs

2016-04-06 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.04.2016 um 07:54 schrieb Urs Liska: > > Am 07.04.2016 um 07:50 schrieb Noeck: >> Hi Urs, >> >> a very uneducated guess: Could it be that the html pages are only >> generated if the input has changed and as you change the generating code >> and not the doc-input, the generation is skipped? I

Re: Code examples in docs

2016-04-06 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska writes: > Hm, I'm puzzled. > > I must say that this file and particularly > BookHTMLOutputFormat.snippet_output() looks like it's exactly the code > I'm looking for. What I need is the code that wraps the source code of > any LilyPond snippet in the d

Re: Code examples in docs

2016-04-06 Thread Urs Liska
Am 07.04.2016 um 07:50 schrieb Noeck: > Hi Urs, > > a very uneducated guess: Could it be that the html pages are only > generated if the input has changed and as you change the generating code > and not the doc-input, the generation is skipped? It is still strange > that it works if you empty the

Re: Code examples in docs

2016-04-06 Thread Noeck
Hi Urs, a very uneducated guess: Could it be that the html pages are only generated if the input has changed and as you change the generating code and not the doc-input, the generation is skipped? It is still strange that it works if you empty the file. Cheers, Joram

Re: Code examples in docs

2016-04-06 Thread Urs Liska
>>> Hi, >>> >>> can someone tell me where I should look for code that generates code >>> examples in the HTML docs? >> I assume you mean the texi/latex code that takes the snippet and puts it >> into the document as a code fragment? >> >> I thi

Re: Code examples in docs

2016-04-06 Thread Urs Liska
e that generates code >> examples in the HTML docs? > > I assume you mean the texi/latex code that takes the snippet and puts it > into the document as a code fragment? > > I think it may be in python/book_html.py, but I'm not 100% sure. Thanks, that looks indeed promising.

Re: Code examples in docs

2016-04-05 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 4/5/16 5:09 PM, "lilypond-devel-bounces+c_sorensen=byu@gnu.org on behalf of Urs Liska" wrote: >Hi, > >can someone tell me where I should look for code that generates code >examples in the HTML docs? I assume you mean the texi/latex code that takes the snippe

Re: Code examples in docs

2016-04-05 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 06.04.2016 01:09, Urs Liska wrote: Hi, can someone tell me where I should look for code that generates code examples in the HTML docs? There are links on the pictures, aren’t they? Best, Simon ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel

Code examples in docs

2016-04-05 Thread Urs Liska
Hi, can someone tell me where I should look for code that generates code examples in the HTML docs? Thanks Urs -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet. ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: Doc: CG - Updates for building the LP Docs using XeLaTex (issue 287240043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2016-03-01 Thread pkx166h
Many thanks. https://codereview.appspot.com/287240043/diff/1/Documentation/included/compile.itexi File Documentation/included/compile.itexi (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/287240043/diff/1/Documentation/included/compile.itexi#newcode232 Documentation/included/compile.itexi:232: asterisk

Re: Docs: clean up after \relative conversion (issue 239250043 by k-ohara5...@oco.net)

2015-05-29 Thread dak
Will presently upload a diff incorporating the work of Keith after applying the points made in review. https://codereview.appspot.com/239250043/diff/20001/Documentation/learning/common-notation.itely File Documentation/learning/common-notation.itely (left): https://codereview.appspot.com/239250

Re: Docs: clean up after \relative conversion (issue 239250043 by k-ohara5...@oco.net)

2015-05-28 Thread dak
On 2015/05/28 05:13:48, Keith wrote: On 2015/05/26 16:21:48, dak wrote: > > The script had about 90% coverage or so and working over Learning manually to > make it consistent makes sense. I think we can live with incomplete coverage > elsewhere. I completed (I'm pretty sure) the conversio

Re: Docs: clean up after \relative conversion (issue 239250043 by k-ohara5...@oco.net)

2015-05-27 Thread k-ohara5a5a
' {} mixed with \relative{} used to explain a tricky interaction with expanding chords was too much for my brain to keep track of. Description: Docs: clean up after \relative conversion Please review this at https://codereview.appspot.com/239250043/ Affected files (+109, -109 lines):

Re: Docs: clean up after \relative conversion (issue 239250043 by k-ohara5...@oco.net)

2015-05-26 Thread dak
https://codereview.appspot.com/239250043/diff/20001/Documentation/learning/common-notation.itely File Documentation/learning/common-notation.itely (left): https://codereview.appspot.com/239250043/diff/20001/Documentation/learning/common-notation.itely#oldcode1184 Documentation/learning/common-no

Docs: clean up after \relative conversion (issue 239250043 by k-ohara5...@oco.net)

2015-05-25 Thread tdanielsmusic
Apart from a really trivial nitpick, LGTM (but I haven't checked if anything has been missed) Trevor https://codereview.appspot.com/239250043/diff/1/Documentation/notation/pitches.itely File Documentation/notation/pitches.itely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/239250043/diff/1/Document

Docs: Issue 4181: Expose \stemUp and \stemDown predefs less (issue 214870044 by tdanielsmu...@googlemail.com)

2015-03-06 Thread tdanielsmusic
, these are all in rather esoteric sections and probably quite well-hidden from new users. Trevor Description: Docs: Issue 4181: Expose \stemUp and \stemDown predefs less in LM Tweaking output - change some examples to use \slurUp etc rather than \stemUp - give an example showing the use of the

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-31 Thread pkx166h
Knut, author Knut Petersen Thu, 8 Jan 2015 18:00:44 + (18:00 +) committer James Lowe Sat, 31 Jan 2015 12:57:08 + (12:57 +) commit cd5b559ab016dad5100eab3105218df94ab9f402 Thanks for your work. James https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/ ___

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-30 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 30.01.2015 um 09:57 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: Die erzeugten PDF-Dateien sind sehr viel größer als normal (aufgrund der schwachen oder fehlenden Schriftartenoptimierung). Wenn jedoch zwei oder mehr PDF-Dateien mittels pdftex, xetex oder luatex eingebunden werden, können sie mit Ghostscript nach

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-30 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Die erzeugten PDF-Dateien sind sehr viel größer als normal (aufgrund > der schwachen oder fehlenden Schriftartenoptimierung). Wenn jedoch > zwei oder mehr PDF-Dateien mittels pdftex, xetex oder luatex > eingebunden werden, können sie mit Ghostscript nachbearbeitet werden > (die Fontdaten werden

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-30 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 29.01.2015 um 19:44 schrieb pkx1...@gmail.com: Can someone give me the translation in German for: "PDF files generated will be much larger than normal (due to little or no font optimization). However, if two or more PDF files are included within pdftex, xetex or luatex documents they can then

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-29 Thread pkx166h
Can someone give me the translation in German for: "PDF files generated will be much larger than normal (due to little or no font optimization). However, if two or more PDF files are included within pdftex, xetex or luatex documents they can then be processed further via ghostscript (merging dupl

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-26 Thread pkx166h
Patch on countdown for Jan 29th https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-24 Thread lemzwerg
Ah, nice! I wasn't aware of this script. Thanks for mentioning it. https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-24 Thread dak
On 2015/01/24 14:10:46, J_lowe wrote: On 2015/01/20 22:41:38, http://wl_gnu.org wrote: > >> In case of doubt, the formatting produced by Emacs is the one we > >> follow. > > > > Can you point me to some pages that explain this on the web? > > Well, I can describe what I do: I simply load the Sche

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-24 Thread pkx166h
On 2015/01/20 22:41:38, wl_gnu.org wrote: >> In case of doubt, the formatting produced by Emacs is the one we >> follow. > > Can you point me to some pages that explain this on the web? Well, I can describe what I do: I simply load the Scheme file into emacs, which automatically selects Scheme

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-24 Thread pkx166h
Thanks to all https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/diff/40001/Documentation/de/usage/running.itely File Documentation/de/usage/running.itely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/diff/40001/Documentation/de/usage/running.itely#newcode160 Documentation/de/usage/running.itely:160:

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-20 Thread Keith OHara
On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 13:19:26 -0800, wrote: https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/diff/20001/ps/encodingdefs.ps#newcode8 ps/encodingdefs.ps:8: /LilyNoteHeadEncoding [ On 2015/01/18 06:33:02, Keith wrote: This is a little different from "FetaNoteheadsEncoding" in 'mf/out/feta-noteheads11.enc'

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-20 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> In case of doubt, the formatting produced by Emacs is the one we >> follow. > > Can you point me to some pages that explain this on the web? Well, I can describe what I do: I simply load the Scheme file into emacs, which automatically selects Scheme mode. Then I press the tab key line per li

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-20 Thread lemzwerg
Thank *you* for your hard work. Here's the next round of comments. https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/diff/40001/Documentation/de/usage/running.itely File Documentation/de/usage/running.itely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/diff/40001/Documentation/de/usage/running.itel

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-20 Thread pkx166h
Thanks for your patience. https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/diff/20001/Documentation/de/usage/running.itely File Documentation/de/usage/running.itely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/diff/20001/Documentation/de/usage/running.itely#newcode166 Documentation/de/usage/runn

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-20 Thread pkx166h
On 2015/01/11 20:13:29, lemzwerg wrote: Thanks for your help and assistance! > > For better orientation, please reformat this to have a fixed number > > of entries per line (I suggest 4 items), > > I did 3 items maximum and kept things within the line length. Basically, this is fine. How

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-17 Thread k-ohara5a5a
I have not yet used LilyPond with TeX, so I have no opinion. I looked up the history: Use of PostScript glyphshow, rather than show, for all characters seems to have started with http://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=lilypond.git;a=commitdiff;h=c3d6497157576dc0d4ae77c44978d54e7a212074 after some

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-17 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> So do I go ahead and continue helping Knut with this patch? I suggest yes. And thanks in advance for helping :-) Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread dak
Knut Petersen writes: On 15.01.2015 17:01, d...@gnu.org wrote: PDFTeX apparently does merge subsetted fonts, Which version? Those versions having the \pdfincludedcopyfonts setting? so I don't think we should need to include the complete fonts in order to get font merging. But we pro

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread Knut Petersen
On 15.01.2015 17:01, d...@gnu.org wrote: PDFTeX apparently does merge subsetted fonts, Which version? so I don't think we should need to include the complete fonts in order to get font merging. But we probably should work with coding vectors so that we can use identical font names, just spar

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread dak
On 2015/01/15 15:06:06, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: On 15.01.2015 14:47, mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote: > On 2015/01/15 13:18:46, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: >> On 15.01.2015 13:15, mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote: >> > On 2015/01/15 12:01:55, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: >> > >> >> Ghostscri

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread Knut Petersen
On 15.01.2015 14:47, d...@gnu.org wrote: On 2015/01/15 13:18:46, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: On 15.01.2015 13:15, mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote: > On 2015/01/15 12:01:55, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: > >> Ghostscript does the font merging. > > Any idea whether something could be done to mak

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread dak
On 2015/01/15 13:18:46, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: On 15.01.2015 13:15, mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote: > On 2015/01/15 12:01:55, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: > >> Ghostscript does the font merging. > > Any idea whether something could be done to make PDFTeX do the font > merging instead whe

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread Knut Petersen
On 15.01.2015 13:12, d...@gnu.org wrote: If external hyperlinks from our documentation PDF to other files stop working, we cannot make this the default way of building our documentation. Indeed. Building lilypond with --bigpdfs enabled by default is a good test for that code, nothing more, no

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread James
On 15/01/15 13:18, Knut Petersen wrote: On 15.01.2015 13:15, d...@gnu.org wrote: On 2015/01/15 12:01:55, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: Ghostscript does the font merging. Any idea whether something could be done to make PDFTeX do the font merging instead when including all the PDF files?

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread Knut Petersen
On 15.01.2015 13:15, d...@gnu.org wrote: On 2015/01/15 12:01:55, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: Ghostscript does the font merging. Any idea whether something could be done to make PDFTeX do the font merging instead when including all the PDF files? No, not really. That would require a lot

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread dak
On 2015/01/15 12:01:55, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: On 15.01.2015 10:45, mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote: > > Reliable? If I remember correctly, the tool used for combining the > fonts (ppdfsizeopt.py) Ghostscript does the font merging. Any idea whether something could be done to make PDFTeX

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread dak
On 2015/01/15 12:01:55, Knut_Petersen_t-online.de wrote: On 15.01.2015 10:45, mailto:d...@gnu.org wrote: > > Reliable? If I remember correctly, the tool used for combining the > fonts (ppdfsizeopt.py) Ghostscript does the font merging. Ok. BTW: All this has been documented in the commit m

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread Knut Petersen
On 15.01.2015 12:49, lemzw...@googlemail.com wrote: The hyperlink issue is not related to the --bigpdf option (since it is a bug in ghostscript), so I don't think that this is a showstopper. Well, it means that the code currently cannot be used to build lilyponds own documentation. cu, Knut

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread Knut Petersen
On 15.01.2015 10:45, d...@gnu.org wrote: Reliable? If I remember correctly, the tool used for combining the fonts (ppdfsizeopt.py) Ghostscript does the font merging. fails on the PDF files from PDFLaTeX, so there must be an additional iteration through GhostScript. This additional iterati

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread lemzwerg
Well, we get a large size reduction even if we don't use pdfsizeopt! Using this program is an extra bonus but not mandatory. And you are right, I hope that Péter fixes the reported issues, provided someone is going to add them to the bug tracker (which hasn't happened yet, looking at https://code

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-15 Thread dak
On 2015/01/15 07:08:33, lemzwerg wrote: David's concerns are very specific to the Lilypond documentation, not covering the general case. Many programs simply can't process PS output at all, so the suggestion to collect PS data that gets reduced later on is not applicable. The only valid a

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-14 Thread lemzwerg
David's concerns are very specific to the Lilypond documentation, not covering the general case. Many programs simply can't process PS output at all, so the suggestion to collect PS data that gets reduced later on is not applicable. The only valid alternative is to make Lilypond natively produce

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-14 Thread pkx166h
On 2015/01/14 08:42:27, lemzwerg wrote: Knut, *your* patch set has this, but James's version (in patch set 2) misses it. Yes that's true. I thought this was a 'lost in translation' error. So we have: +Generate really big pdf files with as less as possible +optimization of font data. b

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-14 Thread lemzwerg
Knut, *your* patch set has this, but James's version (in patch set 2) misses it. https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-14 Thread Knut Petersen
On 14.01.2015 08:15, lemzw...@googlemail.com wrote: Hmm. I can't find in your description that `--bigpdfs' creates *big* output files that get later reduced to small one by running ghostscript again. https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/ No? Have a look at the patch sent to lilypond-deve

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-13 Thread lemzwerg
Hmm. I can't find in your description that `--bigpdfs' creates *big* output files that get later reduced to small one by running ghostscript again. https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https:

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-12 Thread pkx166h
On 2015/01/12 08:52:02, lemzwerg wrote: I don't object to the name! I only state that the option's name doesn't have an explanation in the English documentation, and I think it would be good if it gets added. Knut already did and I 'rewrote' this (as per the stated summary of patch #2). D

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-12 Thread lemzwerg
I don't object to the name! I only state that the option's name doesn't have an explanation in the English documentation, and I think it would be good if it gets added. https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/ ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-11 Thread Knut Petersen
On 12.01.2015 06:56, lemzw...@googlemail.com wrote: https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/diff/20001/Documentation/usage/running.itely File Documentation/usage/running.itely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/diff/20001/Documentation/usage/running.itely#newcode187 Documentatio

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-11 Thread lemzwerg
https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/diff/20001/Documentation/usage/running.itely File Documentation/usage/running.itely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/diff/20001/Documentation/usage/running.itely#newcode187 Documentation/usage/running.itely:187: font data which can make s

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-11 Thread pkx166h
On 2015/01/11 20:13:46, lemzwerg wrote: https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/diff/20001/Documentation/de/usage/running.itely File Documentation/de/usage/running.itely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/diff/20001/Documentation/de/usage/running.itely#newcode160 Documentatio

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-11 Thread lemzwerg
https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/diff/20001/Documentation/de/usage/running.itely File Documentation/de/usage/running.itely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/diff/20001/Documentation/de/usage/running.itely#newcode160 Documentation/de/usage/running.itely:160: pdftex-, xetex

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-11 Thread lemzwerg
Thanks for your help and assistance! > For better orientation, please reformat this to have a fixed number > of entries per line (I suggest 4 items), I did 3 items maximum and kept things within the line length. Basically, this is fine. However, three is incommensurable to 16, ... Werner

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-11 Thread pkx166h
Thanks https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/diff/1/Documentation/de/usage/running.itely File Documentation/de/usage/running.itely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/diff/1/Documentation/de/usage/running.itely#newcode160 Documentation/de/usage/running.itely:160: pdftex-, xetex

Re: Reduce size of PDF files when inc. in *TeX docs (issue 194090043 by pkx1...@gmail.com)

2015-01-10 Thread lemzwerg
LGTM, thanks! I only have some minor comments regarding improved legibility of the source code. https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/diff/1/Documentation/de/usage/running.itely File Documentation/de/usage/running.itely (right): https://codereview.appspot.com/194090043/diff/1/Documentation/

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