84 Rand Robinson KR2, 5k or best offer 520-241-2093 Marc
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Emory Luth wrote:
> Steve Glover of nVaero is now distributing the KR plans and parts. I am
> sure
> The main nVaero website can be found at: www.*nvaero*.com.
>
>
I looked at the new web site and it seems Steve is off to a good start.
I would not worry about getting the plans from Jeanette
Hi Jim,
I just spoke with Jeanette. She said she will be shipping them out tomorrow.
Regards,
Steve Glover
www.nvaero.com
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Larry Flesner said:
Sorry I don't have his web address but he is on the net and will reply with
> the necessary info.
>
Jim (and others interested in plans):
Steve Glover of nVaero is now distributing the KR plans and parts. I am
sure Steve will quickly take care of your situation now that he
Sorry I don't have his web address but he is on the net and will reply with
the necessary info.
>
>
http://stores.homestead.com/hstrial-eglover3/-strse-Books-and-Videos/Categories.bok
Cheers
--
Darren Crompton
AUSTRALIA
My building site: www.kr-2s.com
AN-BOLTS www.an-bolts.com.au
Thanks Larry, Hope you are right
Jim Wright , Spring Hill FL
At 05:15 PM 12/17/2009, you wrote:
>Hi Folks
> Does any one know what's going on with Rand Robinson?
>Jim Wright, Spring Hill Florida
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I'm guessing your plans will show up soon. The process is very slow
with Rand Robinson but
list.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Gunnar Olsen
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:28 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> Rand Robinson Engineering, no contact.
I try to reach Rand Robinson Engineering for buying a set of KR-2S
plans, but get no answer on neither fax nor phone.
Any suggest
Ron,
Hundreds of KR's have been completed with virtually no "factory" support
at all. It's one of the reasons KRnet exists. For the most part, WE are
the "factory" support, since we are the closest thing you'll come to a
KR "factory".
Steve is doing a lot towards getting all the fragmented resou
Cool Steve it will be good to see what you will have to offer.
Todd Price
Chandler, AZ
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Stephen Glover wrote:
> Hello Ron,
>
> I am sorry you have not been able to contact RR. Jeanette is in somewhat
> of
> a transition right now with some personal items. Our c
Hello Ron,
I am sorry you have not been able to contact RR. Jeanette is in somewhat of
a transition right now with some personal items. Our company is now
providing authorized factory support and is producing all components for the
KR series of aircraft. If you need anything, please don't hesit
> To: KRnet
> Date: 10/20/2009 8:28:14 PM
> Subject: KR> Rand Robinson Engineering, no contact.
>
> I try to reach Rand Robinson Engineering for buying a set of KR-2S
> plans, but get no answer on neither fax nor phone.
> Any suggestions a
Gunnar.
As we tell all of our new members, just post a cheque, and you will get them
in the mail.
If you spent weeks trying to call, then that will be extra weeks of
waiting. What was the movie, build it and they will come--- well post a
cheque for them and they will come.
good luck.
Phil Ma
I try to reach Rand Robinson Engineering for buying a set of KR-2S
plans, but get no answer on neither fax nor phone.
Any suggestions anyone ?
Thanks.
Gunnar
Has anyone dealt with RR as of late? I've left a few messages and can't get a
response, and no one ever answers the phone. I'm quite eager to purchase a KR2
kit from them, as I live nearby their operations. Also, if there are any kr2
flyers or builders nearby KLGB, I'd love to pick your brai
KR2 project for sale. Includes: Revmaster 2100D turbocharged engine, test-run
only; Fuselage is in boat-stage with aluminum seat, dual controls, rudder
pedals, Diehl trycycle gear, tires, Matco main wheels and brakes; Wings and
tail finished; Pre-molded turtledeck, canopy, canopy frame, forward
If you lived in Australia, I'd buy it for the engine alone!
Great price.
On 5/3/07, ROBERT SALLEE wrote:
>
> KR2 project for sale. Includes: Revmaster 2100D turbocharged engine,
> test-run only; Fuselage is in boat-stage with aluminum seat, dual controls,
> rudder pedals, Diehl trycycle gear, t
- Original Message -
From: "ROBERT SALLEE"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 8:33 PM
Subject: KR> Rand Robinson KR2 project for sale.
> KR2 project for sale. Includes: Revmaster 2100D turbocharged engine,
> test-run only; Fuselage is in boat-stage with aluminum sea
From: Jim Sellars
To: KRnet
Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2007 9:46:03 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Rand Robinson KR2 project for sale.
Bob;
First question, do you still have the project or has it been sold?
Second question do you have any instruments? Third question, if it is still
available do you h
Nick, Dave, Red,
We all know that RR sucks as a business, but she is really a fine person.
Probably the only business that you HAVE to do with her, if you want to
build a KR, is to get the plans.
I know that this is a shocker to new builders. It is not something that you
expect these days, but
Guys and gals:
I know it takes a long time to get plans from RR...I
am building another type of craft and here isn't much
good support fromthat company either.
However...consider this: Taking time to get your
plans is a test of your will. During this project,
your will shall be tested A LOT.
This is my view. I am not building a KR, but do have the plans.
First, I would not bring Mercedes into this. There was an article this week
that Mercedes has the worst reliability of any car available in America. It
used to be Jaguar, but I guess they are spreading the "love".
Now the K
OK Guys,
Your flattering yourselves to think no one has thought of that or
tried it before and it apparently is not in the cards for now and may
never be. You certainly are not taking into consideration any sentimental
value that this airplane design has to Mrs. Robinson.
A little
Thanks Dan, maybe Red and I totally mis-understood each other ! I was
offering moral support to Dan because I thought his problems were
valid. Yes, when I met her and her daughter, I thought they were both
good people. My plans came right away, but that was in the early
1990's. Well, actuall
ssage-
From: joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
To: kr...@mylist.net
Sent: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Rand Robinson??? Just my view.
OK Guys,
Your flattering yourselves to think no one has thought of that or
tried it before and it apparently is not in the cards for now and may
never
Hi Guys,
There is a guy in Pretoria that is very interrested in buying a complete set
of drawings and construction manual for the KR2S. He sent 3 faxes over the last
3 weeks and also tried to phone, but there is no reply. I explained the
situation to him and he accepted it, but he still needs
Just send a check, Money Order, Whetever to Rand Robinson and wait for the
plans.
Just Do It.
Steven Phillabaum
KR2S; 5048; corvair;
Auburn, Alabama
Jaco Swanepoel wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> There is a guy in Pretoria that is very interrested in buying a complete
> set of drawings and const
The station wagon still exists we just call it an SUV. Rings a bell doesn't
it?
. Trust me, you could CAD draw one, supply wonderful
> drawings and advertise the fire out of it for less than the counter offer.
>
> Neat idea but so was the station wagon.
>
>
> Dana Overall
> 1999 & 2000 National
Regarding the assumption of "25 years of liability," and without offering
legal advice, one would assume that if a company wanted to buy the rights to
sell the plans to the KR series, and to build kits to these plans, the
company would not "buy" Rand-Robinson Engineering, but would instead buy
inte
There never is a connection between the previous manufacturer; plan seller
or material supplier only to the
previous liability.
- Original Message -
From: "Max Hardberger"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Rand/Robinson Eng
quot;
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering--Assumption of Liability
> There never is a connection between the previous manufacturer; plan seller
> or material supplier only to the
> previous liability.
> - Original Message -
>
the very real possibility of losing his shirt.
> - Original Message -
> From: "joe"
> To: "KRnet"
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 2:44 PM
> Subject: Re: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering--Assumption of Liability
>
>
Excuse me, I didn't realize a possible test in court is not
allowed.
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From: "Max Hardberger"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering--Assumption of Liability
> "de facto&qu
Beech was sued for 6million and lost. ref: seat problem
- Original Message -
From: "Max Hardberger"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering--Assumption of Liability
> "de facto"? "having in re
your
advice.
- Original Message -
From: "Max Hardberger"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering--Assumption of Liability
> "de facto"? "having in reality assumed that role"? "ergo up
I've wondered why Jeanette wasn't interested in the possible
sale/transfer or whatever you would want to call it, of the business.
After all the plane is a good design, there are people that would like
to help and many other reasons that I could see. In addition to the
mention of an offer presented
>From: "Jim Faughn"
lets agree on 25,000 per year. Next, given the best financial
>advice I've read and heard, you would figure that you should only plan
>on your investment's in the near future earning between 6 & 7%. So what
>figure would it take to earn 25,000 per year? I come up with about
>$
Dana, Excellent point on what it should be worth vs. what she probably
thinks it is worth.
Jim
>From: "Jim Faughn"
lets agree on 25,000 per year. Next, given the best financial
>advice I've read and heard, you would figure that you should only plan
>on your investment's in the near future earn
To: "'KRnet'"
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:49 PM
Subject: RE: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering
> I've wondered why Jeanette wasn't interested in the possible
> sale/transfer or whatever you would want to call it, of the business.
> After all the plane is a go
> "Jim Faughn" writes:
> I've wondered why Jeanette wasn't interested in the possible
> sale/transfer or whatever you would want to call it, of the
> business. --(snip)--
> can make the assumption that the profit in the worst case
> is in the range of $20-30,000. Next figure this is her retiremen
t: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering
> > "Jim Faughn" writes:
> > I've wondered why Jeanette wasn't interested in the possible
> > sale/transfer or whatever you would want to call it, of the
> > business. --(sn
Many of us have offered to assist Jeanette, free of charge. I think that we
already do all that she wants anyone to do.
Maybe all of this has everything to do with what the KR means to her. It is
hard for us to walk in her shoes. It may very well be, that it has very
little to do with material wea
Ron wrote:
>The more we, as a group fly our planes to gatherings
and public places
>the better we sustain the KR enterprise for her,
which is good for her >and the people fabricating KR
parts. Just don't loose the faith, the >KR will
survive.
In the one hand I agree with you but in the other I
Agree with this analysis. The value of a business is a factor of its net cash
income. Maybe she is just afraid someone will not manage it properly and thus
degrade the memory of Ken. You never know.
Jim Faughn wrote:
Dana, Excellent point on what it should be worth vs. what she probably
thi
The deal that we offered her was that we would take over the business and
proceed to improve the plans and grow it as we saw fit, while still paying
her what she had averaged for the previous five years, and she was no longer
required to work. We offered her five years of that (and were prepared t
Hi everybody,
just my thought about this:
Dan Heath wrote "It may very well be, that it has very
little to do with material wealth..."
And Peter Waijenberg wrote "In the one hand I agree with you but in
the other I say the best is to let the company go bankrupt..."
First of all a word of respect
I think your right.
Ron
- Original Message -
From: "Dan Heath"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 5:15 AM
Subject: RE: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering - Perceived Worth
Many of us have offered to assist Jeanette, free of charge. I think that we
already do all that she wa
You don't go bankrupt with all the account payable invoices paid. She has
no overhead cost because she is operating out of her residence and her own
labor is free. One of the reasons she has cut back on appearances at flyins
is the cash flow {sales of plans}. She operates on a cash basis [ like I
> Dr. Dean and I tried to sell her TET wing attach fittings for the same
price
> we were selling them on KRnet. She said that was actually less than she
was
> paying for them (from Ken Brock, I believe), and she expressed some
interest
> in them, but we never heard anything else about them. In m
ite to her never get an
answer. Her not apearing at fly-in's with a display of what she has to sell
is only making things worse.
Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com
- Original Message -
From: "Ron Eason"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Wednesday, March 10,
Yes, Remember "GRANDMA", Virg
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 06:15:08 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) "Dan Heath"
writes:
> Many of us have offered to assist Jeanette, free of charge. I think
> that we
> already do all that she wants anyone to do.
>
> Maybe all of this has everything to do with w
>She is not selling many plans because of the way she
>treats existing builders. Both builders and non
>builders who have a problem or are interested in
>building and write to her never get an answer. Her
>not apearing at fly-in's with a display of what she
>has to sell is only making things wors
Since it is becoming more and more obvious that Mrs. Rand is not much
interested in her business, have any of you guys who are on the KRNet and show
the most interest in the KR line of aircraft ever thought of making her an
offer to buy the company. I know there are people on the KRNet who
I would be interested in joining such a venture.
Max Hardberger
"have any of you guys who are on the KRNet and show the most interest in the
KR line of aircraft ever thought of making her an offer to buy the company."
Bob Stone wrote:
>> have any of you guys who are on the KRNet and show the most interest in
the KR line of aircraft ever thought of making her an offer to buy the
company<<
Dr. Dean and I did exactly that about four years ago. Gave it a lot of
thought, came up with a plan, flew out to California
>From: "Mark Langford"
Dr. Dean and I did exactly that about four years ago. Gave it a lot of
thought, came up with a plan, flew out to California, and made her an offer
over lunch.
I thought we made her an offer that she couldn't refuse, but it turns out
she thought it was worth about 10 times wh
-molded
parts.
Bob Stone
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Langford"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering
> Bob Stone wrote:
>
> >> have any of you guys who are on the KRNet and show the most inte
business is just going to die a slow death and she will end up with nothing.
Bob Stone
- Original Message -
From: "Max Hardberger"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:05 AM
Subject: Re: KR>Rand/Robinson Engineering
> I would be interested in joini
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