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Lets see stand on bracks to hard and fall on nose, Pull on cable,cable brakes
one side ground loop.
Oscar Zuniga wrote: Might as well throw out another
idea here, for those who like to think
outside the box. Personally, I've never liked the hydraulic fluid, lines,
master cylinders, bleeding
Another one needing removed from list Mark?
Kevin
ARUP
Jeff Scott wrote:
> If your Cleveland brakes won't hold your KR at full throttle, then you
> have a problem with your brake lines or master cylinders. The typical
> problem is the use of 1/4 plastic lines in the brake system, which
> expand significantly under pressure and significantly reduce the
> Reading this, one might suspect that you mean 1/4" isn't large enough, but
> you mean they are too large.
Wait a minute. I don't think that makes any sense! What you meant was that
plastic was the problem, I suspect, not that it was too big. Mine are
3/16", and work fine except for full thr
Personally, I prefer aluminum tubing brake lines, or steel. Steel brake lines
are very light weight and can usually be found at some auto supply stores and
for sure at companies that make custom hydraulic hose lines. Lots of steel
hydraulic lines are used on tractors and many different kinds of
der
Canton, Ohio
From: "Mark Langford"
Reply-To: KRnet
To: "KRnet"
Subject: Re: KR> Hydraulic brakes
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 06:37:37 -0600
> Reading this, one might suspect that you mean 1/4" isn't large enough,
but
> you
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I will only use steel lines, 3/16 should be fine. Why using anything
that may cause problems. Steel has stood the test of time. In point of
fact, on anything that goes down the street, it is criminal to use
anything but double flared steel lines !! ( i.e. no plastic, aluminum,
copped, etc.) I
You say to avoid the plastic lines..
Hi Pete.
I was born in Canton and raised near there in Magnolia.
Live in Naples Fl. now, but get up there in Aug.-Sept after Oshkosh.
Contact me offline. I'd like to meet you.
John Sickafoose
jas...@wbtv.net
For Pete Klapp
Sorry, that should have been:
jas...@webtv.net
John
-Original Message-
From: Linda Warner
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:32 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Hydraulic brakes
You say to avoid the plastic lines..
Hi Pete.
I was born in Canton and rai
Hi guy's;
I've been researching hydraulic brakes for the KR to use with the Diehl gear
legs. I searched the archives, not much help except brand names and it looks
like Ken Brock is out of business so I guess that leaves Cleveland and Matco
and as I recall most of you are using 5" wheels and br
have.
Rick Human
Houston, Texas
- Original Message -
From: "Myron (Dan) Freeman"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:34 PM
Subject: KR> Hydraulic brakes
> Hi guy's;
>
> I've been researching hydraulic brakes for the KR to use with th
Check out Tracy O'brian KR brake and axle setup, that is what I went with. They
work just like the ones on our F-16's at work
--
Eric Pitts
Terre Haute, Indiana
KR2S
-- Original message --
From: "Myron (Dan) Freeman"
> Hi guy's;
>
> I've been researching hydrau
Hi Myron,
I am unsure what you are building, I would be very nervous about having
hydraulic disk brakes on a tail dragger.
I previously flew a Luton Minor which was significantly longer than a
KR, and the wheels were further forward. I had pretty weak cable
operated drum brakes, but I could st
Hi Pete;
Well, I need to know these things. What I'm doing is a rebuild of my own
KR-2 because I think (hope) I can make it better (I've learn a lot since I
built it). I have been using mechanical disk brakes all along but thought I
might be better off with hydraulics. Perhaps what I really nee
Sorry, but you will find that most of the conventional gear KRs flying today
have hydraulic disk brakes. I can use them to slow down, when the tail is
still up. I cannot see why you would use anything else. If you are
concerned about them holding to well, I cannot hold my KR in place with 3200
gear.
I hope this information it is of some use.
FYI
Parley Byington
byington1...@earthlink.net
(N54PB) KR-2
Henderson NV
> [Original Message]
> From: Pete Diffey
> To: KRnet
> Date: 1/21/2007 3:45:16 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> Hydraulic brakes
>
> Hi Myron,
>
> I a
Parley;
Yes, I had the R/R drum brakes at first but I never used them. I still have
them, new, in a box somewhere. I went with mechanical disc brakes instead
but their not the quality of the hydraulics that I've seen. I was hoping
that hydraulic brakes would overcome the poor linkage problem th
Yes, I had the R/R drum brakes at first but I never used them.
Myron (Dan) Freeman
I am unsure what you are building, I would be very nervous about having
hydraulic disk brakes on a tail dragger.
Pete Diffey
Gentlemen,
One reason to NOT use drum brakes is that they are OLD TECHNOLOGY! Drums
react
The only tail dragger I've flown with drum brakes was a B-17 and they
were not about to let me do any ground ops because, among other reasons,
the brakes are not that reliable. I got a set of disk brakes from an
Aerocoupe. Just a little bigger than our plane needs, but they fit just
fine.
-dav
I have had hydraulic brakes on the last three KR s and have not had a problem.
No one says you have to push real hard.
Pete Diffey wrote: Hi Myron,
I am unsure what you are building, I would be very nervous about having
hydraulic disk brakes on a tail dragger.
I previously flew a Luton Minor
You know, I just re-read my earlier post and I did say mechanical "DRUM"
brakes. I ment to say mechanical "DISC" brakes is what I now have, sorry.
Anyway, I think what I'm trying to do is come up with a shopping list for
new builders (and myself) to help them quickly through the process of buyin
Hi Myron, what Colin says is partly true.
He is right of course hydraulic disk brakes are better for stopping, and
they do tend to fade less under heavy use, but KR2 brakes should not get
hot so fade and wear are not an issue.
I would dispute what is said about warping, I have never in 40 years
Might as well throw out another idea here, for those who like to think
outside the box. Personally, I've never liked the hydraulic fluid, lines,
master cylinders, bleeding, and all that mess. However, there is no denying
the beauty of disk brakes. So, how about mechanical disk brakes? These
> In my opinion, brakes on a KR are safe for use in taxiing and not much
> more, so cable drums are a safer option.
On a field as short as mine, if I didn't use brakes, I'd run off the end of
the runway every single time. As was mentioned, it's just a matter of
balancing back pressure on the stic
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