Re: KR> Flaperons

2019-04-19 Thread Max Power via KRnet
Awesome info, thanks everyone I'll consider this case closed. On Fri, Apr 19, 2019, 1:46 PM Chris Kinnaman via KRnet wrote: > Flaperons are ailerons that can both be drooped from typical angle to > act as flaps while retaining independent (opposite motion) control as > ailerons. Many gliders hav

Re: KR> Flaperons

2019-04-19 Thread Chris Kinnaman via KRnet
Flaperons are ailerons that can both be drooped from typical angle to act as flaps while retaining independent (opposite motion) control as ailerons. Many gliders have them, and also have the capability of reflexing them up at the trailing edge from typical to flatten out the airfoil's camber l

Re: KR> Flaperons

2019-04-19 Thread Flesner via KRnet
On 4/19/2019 1:18 PM, Flesner via KRnet wrote: Don't head to the patient office just yet as the combination I think you're looking for has been around since I was a child and I'm no youngster any more. +

Re: KR> Flaperons

2019-04-19 Thread Flesner via KRnet
On 4/19/2019 11:44 AM, Max Power via KRnet wrote: I was under the impression that if the craft didn't have flaps or the control surface took up the the majority of the wing that the technical term should be flaperons, Ailerons t

Re: KR> Flaperons

2019-04-19 Thread Max Power via KRnet
You refer to flaperons - is that what the original builder did with the ailerons? Can the angle of both ailerons be changed together to affect glide path and drag like flaps? Chris I was under the impression that if the craft didn't have flaps or the control surface took up the the majority of t

Re: KR> Flaperons

2019-04-19 Thread Jeff Scott via KRnet
your plane up a bit. But typically, there are much draggier dragons to be slayed. :o) -Jeff Scott North Arkansas > Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 at 9:16 AM > From: "Max Power via KRnet" > To: KRnet > Cc: "Max Power" > Subject: Re: KR> Flaperons > &g

Re: KR> Flaperons

2019-04-19 Thread Flesner via KRnet
Slop was a poor choice of words, maybe flex describes it better? +++ It appears you're putting more concern in to this than what problem exist.  My wings and control system are standard plans built, closed loop cables / pulleys

Re: KR> Flaperons

2019-04-19 Thread Chris Kinnaman via KRnet
FWIW, Paul Poberezny once told me there were a number of Piper PA-11s that came off the assembly line with tailposts inadvertently offset from centered location by 1/4". He said "The air never knew the difference." Slop, flex, or looseness could make an airplane more prone to develop flutter in

Re: KR> Flaperons

2019-04-19 Thread Max Power via KRnet
Slop was a poor choice of words, maybe flex describes it better? Here's my thinking, let's say (just throwing out an even number not to be reflected in actual weight) plane weighs 1000# on takeoff, each wing is tasked with 500# lift (yes I'm aware the canopy ads some), lift is created on the downwa

Re: KR> Flaperons

2019-04-18 Thread Flesner via KRnet
On 4/18/2019 8:33 AM, Max Power via KRnet wrote: or should I set them down just a hair to compensate for the "slop" in the linkage? You don't want "slop" in your aileron linkage.  Set the ailerons to "match" the cutout i

Re: KR> Flaperons

2019-04-18 Thread Mac McConnell-Wood via KRnet
I remember from my days in the RAF ,ailerons were rigged in the "droop" position. As you say -to take up the slack. Can't remember how much. On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 4:31 PM Max Power via KRnet wrote: > I hadn't really thought about it when I initially mounted the wings on a > kr2 I bought from

KR> Flaperons

2019-04-18 Thread Max Power via KRnet
I hadn't really thought about it when I initially mounted the wings on a kr2 I bought from the original builder, I had just assumed the adjustment rod from the bellcrank was already in the correct position. They looked ok by my precision calibrated eyeball but if I were to put a straightedge on th

KR> flaperons and Oshkosh

2008-10-12 Thread AVLEC
Hi guys I have been reading about the huge benefits that Jeff Scott is getting from his new flaps and was wondering if anybody had ever tried converting their ailerons to flaperons. I will not be able to use the stub trailing edges as flaps due to all my controlls being situated in them. Because of

KR> flaperons

2008-10-12 Thread Brian Kraut
, Inc. www.engalt.com -Original Message- From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On Behalf Of Jack Cooper Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 12:53 PM To: KRnet Subject: RE: KR> flaperons Russ I was at one time thinking of a flaperon system but found I was using

KR> flaperons

2008-10-12 Thread francis fenlason
I would like to use flaparons(SP?). Does any one who has done it have drawings as to how it is accomplished? Russ Fenlason asir...@702com.net to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html

KR> flaperons

2008-10-12 Thread Jack Cooper
that I was planning on using which consisted of torque tubes and a moveable (forward and rear) bell crank. I'll see if I still have it and post it to my website. Jack Cooper > [Original Message] > From: francis fenlason > To: KRnet > Date: 8/22/2004 6:30:59 PM > Subject

KR> flaperons

2008-10-12 Thread Edward Seaman
te. > > Jack Cooper > > > > [Original Message] > > From: francis fenlason > > To: KRnet > > Date: 8/22/2004 6:30:59 PM > > Subject: KR> flaperons > > > > > > > > I would like to use flaparons(SP?). Does any one > wh

KR> flaperons

2008-10-12 Thread Edward Seaman
Flaperons on a short coupled, low wing aeroplane with very little dihedral is definitely NOT a good idea. Why? Not me that wants to do this so not my function to defend the crazy notion - give me your logic and I will reply. Eddie __