You refer to flaperons - is that what the original builder did with the
ailerons? Can the angle of both ailerons be changed together to affect
glide path and drag like flaps?

Chris

I was under the impression that if the craft didn't have flaps  or the
control surface took up the the majority of the wing that the technical
term should be flaperons, I may be incorrect.
I had been mentally designing a way to be able to alter their linkage to
act similar to the conventional flap and that's what led me to my main
question actually. If I figure out that solution with redundancy, you'll be
the third to know after me and the patent office. Thanks

I totally get that some think of this as splitting hairs but I'm not
talking about every Cessna or something the RAF has that was designed by a
team of engineers. If it's a negligible impact I'll understand, if there
has ever been a study on this effect or if it even has a name I don't know
and couldn't locate.
I forget the exact figures but a car with toe-out of .05" has the
equivalent of directly dragging the tire sideways 5 feet over the course of
a mile and in a liquid fluid medium like a boat you notice there's a small
adjustable fin under the anti-cavitation plate, that is to remedy what I
guess you'd call torque steer due to the density being higher at the lower
point of the propellers range of motion, yes that is in a fluid medium 100
times more viscous then air but that's also present at 100 times slower
speeds.
I am aware of the principles of flight, lower pressure over the top of the
wing, lower pressure is also a way of saying vacuum, suction cups create
vacuum but it's not a pinpoint effect,  it's spread over a larger area
that's why I'm calling it residual lift reaching the flaperons. Cessna
flaps are what maybe 15% surface on that wing?  The first notch is what
maybe 2" movement? So what's the effect on a 80% surface of .5"? Again
these are exaggerated numbers.

On Fri, Apr 19, 2019, 10:15 AM Flesner via KRnet <krnet@list.krnet.org>
wrote:

>
> > Slop was a poor choice of words, maybe flex describes it better?
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> It appears you're putting more concern in to this than what problem
> exist.  My wings and control system are standard plans built, closed
> loop cables / pulleys, bell-cranks/ stick assembly, etc.  There is such
> a thing as "build up of tolerances" where the "tolerance" at each
> location adds up to an unsatisfactory total. In our situation I think we
> can accept "microns" of tolerance.
>
> The primary source of lift on the wing is the low pressure on the top
> surface causing the standard atmosphere pressure on the bottom to be
> greater.  We call the result "lift".  My ailerons are rigged to match
> the cutout in the wing from whence they came.  I can not detect any
> change in flight of the ailerons going out of rig due to the lift being
> created.  Remove as much "play" from the system as possible, rig the
> ailerons correctly, and go fly.
>
> If micron dimensions are a concern, don't go to the airport and wiggle
> control surfaces on the Cessna and Piper aircraft on the ramp.  It might
> scare the hell out of you.  Concern is good. Unnecessary concern can
> keep you grounded.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
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