On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, curious wrote:
> so to round this out my non-sequidor question :) :
> What can I (or other males on this list)
> do to bring more identity and understanding from men to women if
> anything?
I'd rather take a step back from the porn issue so I haven't addressed
that aspect of
> Well maybe you have a kill file, you npy yjrer hear me again. I I hebe doen my
> nedst tostart a flame war and feel sorry you can't imdermine my points.
I would like to remind folks of the posting guidelines for the LinuxChix
lists:
1) be polite
2) be helpful
I ask that everyone ple
Nico Hailey wrote:
>
> So my question is more or less, Does
> the origin (ie, actually *ism, cluelessness, trolling, etc) of the
> *ist things which are said matter?
>
> I mean the effect on ppl seems the same (discomfort, getting defensive,
> going into "educating" mode). My SO is frequently t
srl wrote:
> Talking about gender and sex as non-binary conditions seems useful to
> me--- that's why i suggest this. I think that a lot of the problems geeks
> face could be talked about in terms of gender.
>
> For example: Male geeks often face pressure because they aren't [usually]
> the "joc
Deirdre Saoirse wrote:
>
> On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Aaron Malone wrote:
>
> > You're right, it's a combination of both. Those who engage in this sort of
> > behavior are grabbing the conversation, and from experience they know that many
> > people *will* defer, if for no other reason than they're use
curious wrote:
>
> so to round this out my non-sequidor question :) :
> What can I (or other males on this list)
> do to bring more identity and understanding from
> men to women if anything?
We don't know. We're trying to figure it out.
Start by listening, and trying to learn where we're curre
>> I found out that I, with 3% of the people who took the test, had a
> moderate tendancy to
>> associate females with science. Not *too* big a surprise since I've been
>> good and brainwashed with female-friendly science programs, although it'd be
>> nice if I could say I had no associations.
>
> also more on topic, I was yakking with a bunch of my (male/man) geek
> friends, and one of them made a comment about how every geek needs
> a Vemla(sp, nerdy girl char from scobby doo) because she's smart
> and wears short skirts. (I hate it when /. invades my house.) I
> brought up any number
On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> srl wrote:
>
> > Talking about gender and sex as non-binary conditions seems useful to
> > me--- that's why i suggest this. I think that a lot of the problems geeks
> > face could be talked about in terms of gender.
> >
> > For example: Male geeks o
> But, yet, we persist in seeing geeky females and butches as "women"--- in
> the same category with Barbie, Cindy Crawford, and Ricki Lake. There's
> such a range of female genders, but we have so few words. That really
> should change. We persist in using this XOR model of woman/man, but I'm
>
In short, I'm not coming down on anyone who wants to keep their chapter
female-only. However, I think it's a shame to exclude people on the basis of
their sex and I wouldn't want to see that happen locally. If it were me (and
it isn't), I would let anyone in, regardless of their gender, and if
sorry, this is a bit long and ramblely. Thanks to the list
for providing such material to chew on.
On Mon, Nov 01, 1999 at 11:00:35PM -0500, Deidre L. Calarco wrote:
> > should change. We persist in using this XOR model of woman/man, but I'm
> > sure there's a better way.
>
> Why associate al
> There are all my opinions Steve K=Kudlaks chromexa@mry )@) sistrinution without
> Comoros; use emvpitrsaged...
> Hey prep feral witty Mr. do rot.
>
> Jab FUn,
What language IS this? :o)
-nicole
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Deirdre Saoirse wrote:
> (lots of nics stuff.FOLKS EXCUSE MY SHITTY WEEK PLEASE)
> (It should not have SPREAD TO OTHERS...IT WAS MY FAULT...)
>
> 2) I want a broader acceptance of the AAUP definition of sexual
> harassment. By this, I mean that if there is a) a power differential; b) a
> s
"Deidre L. Calarco" wrote:
> >> I found out that I, with 3% of the people who took the test, had a
> > moderate tendancy to
> >> associate females with science. Not *too* big a surprise since I've been
> >> good and brainwashed with female-friendly science programs, although it'd be
> >> nice
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Nico Hailey wrote:
> >
> > So my question is more or less, Does
> > the origin (ie, actually *ism, cluelessness, trolling, etc) of the
> > *ist things which are said matter?
> >
> > I mean the effect on ppl seems the same (discomfort, getting defensive,
> > going int
On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Constructive bitchiness. And a willingness to take the word 'bitch' as a
> compliment.
> (Oh? You're saying I've learned not to defer to assholes? Why thank you!)
Seize power Jenn! :)
I like this attitude. :)
--
_Deirdre * http://www.linuxca
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> srl wrote:
>
> > Talking about gender and sex as non-binary conditions seems useful to
> > me--- that's why i suggest this. I think that a lot of the problems geeks
> > face could be talked about in terms of gender.
> >
> > For example: Male geeks often face pressure
Nicole Zimmerman wrote:
> > There are all my opinions Steve K=Kudlaks chromexa@mry )@) sistrinution without
> > Comoros; use emvpitrsaged...
> > Hey prep feral witty Mr. do rot.
> >
> > Jab FUn,
>
> What language IS this? :o)
>
> -nicole
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxch
srl wrote:
> Then a female breaks those assumptions, and some people don't know what to
> do with the situation because they have all these ideas about "women".
> Or a female doesn't look like females are "supposed" to--- maybe ze gets
> called "sir" half the time b/c ze's really butch. Maybe ze
On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm not sure that classifying people further is the answer. Reclaiming
> 'person' - or some other gender-neutral identification - might be an
> answer. But having studied stereotyping, I don't think that's quite an
> answer either - people stereoty
Steve Kudlak wrote:
> Nicole Zimmerman wrote:
>
> > > There are all my opinions Steve K=Kudlaks chromexa@mry )@) sistrinution without
> > > Comoros; use emvpitrsaged...
> > > Hey prep feral witty Mr. do rot.
> > >
> > > Jab FUn,
> >
> > What language IS this? :o)
> >
> > -nicole
> >
> > ***
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