[issues] Depression & geeks (was Flame war - after action report & apologies)

1999-10-27 Thread jenn
Deirdre Saoirse wrote: > > I have this sort of dual problem: I never understood depressed people > until my husband died. And then I understood completely. But it's hard for > me to relate to that place now. But for a while I really did understand. I > took anti-depressants, which helped enormous

Re: [issues] Depression & geeks (was Flame war - after action report & apologies)

1999-10-27 Thread Aaron Malone
> So anti-depressants depress me. Ain't that paradoxical? > > Any other geeks find that? Absolutely. They put me on Prozac, Drug-O-The-Month, for a while during my severe depression... it didn't really depress me more, but it didn't ease the depression, plus it made me insomniac and even more

Re: [issues] Depression & geeks (was Flame war - after action report & apologies)

1999-10-27 Thread Deidre L. Calarco
> And the discussion swings back to the topic: > > I really REALLY hate anti-depressants, at least the ones they've tried on > me. > > Either my ability to focus thoughts goes away, or I get a fog around my > head and thinking has to push through it. And being /so/ geekish that > my intelligence

Re: [issues] Depression & geeks

1999-10-27 Thread Amanda Knox
NOTE: If we're off-topic here, someone let me know, k? I'm trying to decide if 'depression among geeks' counts as a women/linux issue. We are mostly talking about women in the linux community (ourselves) but still... I'm afraid of moving the conversation over to [grrltalk] due to the large amount

Re: [issues] Depression & geeks

1999-10-27 Thread Blackjax
-Original Message- From: Amanda Knox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [issues] Depression & geeks >You know what's strange? (but maybe it's not so strange, really) I find the >ratio of depressed to non-

Re: [issues] Depression & geeks (was Flame war - after action report & apologies)

1999-10-27 Thread Steve Kudlak
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Deirdre Saoirse wrote: > > > > I have this sort of dual problem: I never understood depressed people > > until my husband died. And then I understood completely. But it's hard for > > me to relate to that place now. But for a while I really did understand. I > > took

Re: [issues] Depression & geeks

1999-10-27 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:43:51 -0400, Amanda Knox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I find the anti-deps helped me enormously and gave me enough of a >head start that I could crawl out of that dark hole I was in. I think >they are definately over-prescribed (as much as ADHD is >over-diagnosed, IMO), but i

Re: [issues] Depression & geeks

1999-10-27 Thread J B
I think the problem is that many people are given Prozac who do not need it. Like most psychoactives, Prozac works wonderfully when appropriate, and causes problems when not. If we wanted to open the whole "unneeded psychoactives" can of worms, we could discuss the necessity, use and abuse o

Re: [issues] Depression & geeks

1999-10-27 Thread Steve Kudlak
Blackjax wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Amanda Knox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 10:50 AM > Subject: Re: [issues] Depression & geeks > > >You know what's strange? (but maybe it's not so strange, really) I find t

RE: [issues] Depression & geeks

1999-10-27 Thread Rikki McGinty
It sounds to me like people tried one kind of antidepressants and then gave up? Just because Prozac doesn't work doesn't mean antidepressants don't work or always have horrid side effects. There are a big variety of anti-Ds and often you have to go through a bunch of them to find one that works.

RE: [issues] Depression & geeks

1999-10-27 Thread lilith
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Rikki McGinty wrote: > It sounds to me like people tried one kind of antidepressants and then gave > up? Just because Prozac doesn't work doesn't mean antidepressants don't work > or always have horrid side effects. There are a big variety of anti-Ds and > often you have to g

Re: [issues] Depression & geeks

1999-10-27 Thread Steve Kudlak
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Rikki McGinty wrote: > > > It sounds to me like people tried one kind of antidepressants and then gave > > up? Just because Prozac doesn't work doesn't mean antidepressants don't work > > or always have horrid side effects. There are a big variety

[issues] /. (again!)

1999-10-27 Thread Vinnie Surmonde
Okay, I'm dropping threads all over the place, I promise sometime next week I'll get around to picking them up :) (something about one concert, one machine room and a plane ticket to philidelphia all in one week) but has anyone noticed the poll? I'd be annoyed, if I weren't so busy (what I w

Re: [issues] /. (again!)

1999-10-27 Thread Nicole
> but has anyone noticed the poll? > > I'd be annoyed, if I weren't so busy > > (what I wanna know is how comments like 'big honkin' penis' get moderated > up to two...) I saw that, also noted the poll embedded in the 'uncle robin' thing not too long ago (one of the options was "I am a woman y

Re: [issues] /. (again!)

1999-10-27 Thread Vinnie Surmonde
I'm beginning to wonder if *slashdot* is trolling no, I'm (semi) serious this poll, roblimo, the quotes... /. is just so not amusing me this week (and most of the geeks I know irl read it, though we all tend to filter out anything below 2 or so...which means I don't read my own comments [I hav

Re: [issues] /. (again!)

1999-10-27 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:34:09 -0700 (PDT), Nicole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >"You forgot... big honkin' penis" is also now moderated up to 3. I have to wonder how many women have been selected as moderators on Slashdot. >I don't want to insult anyone here (I don't know who made the >comments), b

Re: [issues] Depression & geeks (was Flame war - after action report& apologies)

1999-10-27 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So anti-depressants depress me. Ain't that paradoxical? > > Any other geeks find that? Not at all. I did find that they suppressed the highest moments of emotion, both good and bad. Sort of like an amplitude limiter. -- _Deirdre * http://www.

Re: [issues] Depression & geeks (was Flame war - after action report& apologies)

1999-10-27 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Steve Kudlak wrote: > Note all the trcyclic antidepressants, Elavil, Norpramin etc andother such cause > fogging and clouding, or can cause clouding. They are not controlled > substrances, but in a way for me they have been worse than controlled > substances, such as valium(d

Re: [issues] Depression & geeks

1999-10-27 Thread jenn
Rikki McGinty wrote: > > It sounds to me like people tried one kind of antidepressants and then gave > up? Just because Prozac doesn't work doesn't mean antidepressants don't work > or always have horrid side effects. There are a big variety of anti-Ds and > often you have to go through a bunch o

Re: [issues] Depression & geeks

1999-10-27 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Kelly Lynn Martin wrote: > I think the problem is that many people are given Prozac who do not > need it. Like most psychoactives, Prozac works wonderfully when > appropriate, and causes problems when not. It also has more side effects than some of the other SSRIs. > I tak

Re: [issues] /. (again!)

1999-10-27 Thread Nicole
> >"You forgot... big honkin' penis" is also now moderated up to 3. > > I have to wonder how many women have been selected as moderators on > Slashdot. I was... for those short 5 points, about four times now. Not recently, though. My userid (expunged) doesn't exactly sound "feminine" if that's a

Re: [issues] /. (again!)

1999-10-27 Thread Vinnie Surmonde
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Kelly Lynn Martin wrote: > I have to wonder how many women have been selected as moderators on > Slashdot. it's a semi-random/karma thing...I get mod every so often..more when I meta-moderate regularly (which I quit doing because I feel like if I mod then that means I have t

Re: [issues] Depression & geeks (was Flame war - after action report& apologies)

1999-10-27 Thread lilith
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So anti-depressants depress me. Ain't that paradoxical? > > Any other geeks find that? > > Not at all. I did find that they suppressed the highest moments of > emotion, both good and bad. Sort of like an amplitude limiter. > I don't experienc

Re: [issues] /. (again!)

1999-10-27 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Vinnie Surmonde wrote: > /. is just so not amusing me this week (and most of the geeks I know irl > read it, though we all tend to filter out anything below 2 or so...which > means I don't read my own comments [I have *never* been moderated up, > something which amuses me...I

Re: [issues] Depression & geeks (was Flame war - after action report& apologies)

1999-10-27 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Not at all. I did find that they suppressed the highest moments of > > emotion, both good and bad. Sort of like an amplitude limiter. > > I don't experience anything like this at all on anti-depressants. The > 'passion' of my emotions is in no way

Re: [issues] Depression & geeks (was Flame war - after action report& apologies)

1999-10-27 Thread lilith
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999, Deirdre Saoirse wrote: > In other words, my experience is pretty much irrelevant to yours. :) Everyone's experience with anti-depressants is unique. I was merely offering mine to demonstrate that and in response to the original question asked, not necessarily your particular

Re: [issues] /. (again!)

1999-10-27 Thread Aaron Malone
On Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 02:25:45PM -0700, Vinnie Surmonde wrote: > > Okay, I'm dropping threads all over the place, I promise sometime next > week I'll get around to picking them up :) (something about one concert, > one machine room and a plane ticket to philidelphia all in one week) > > but h

Re: [issues] Depression & geeks (was Flame war - after action report& apologies)

1999-10-27 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Everyone's experience with anti-depressants is unique. I was merely > offering mine to demonstrate that and in response to the original question > asked, not necessarily your particular experience, except to contrast that > everyone does experience p

[issues] A joke for y'all

1999-10-27 Thread Deirdre Saoirse
http://www.transmeta.com/ -- _Deirdre * http://www.linuxcabal.net * http://www.deirdre.net "Mars has been a tough target" -- Peter G. Neumann, Risks Digest Moderator "That's because the Martians keep shooting things down." -- Harlan Rosenthal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, retorting in Risks Diges