Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On Jan 9, 2016 2:39 PM, "Stanislav Malyshev" wrote: > > Hi! > > > What I said is that these are two different points and should be > > discussed separately. Yes, it will be part of the RFc but talking many > > points at the same time is impossible. > > No, I don't think it's two different points,

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi! > What I said is that these are two different points and should be > discussed separately. Yes, it will be part of the RFc but talking many > points at the same time is impossible. No, I don't think it's two different points, at least as far as punitive functions go. If we omit the punitive a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On Jan 9, 2016 2:27 PM, "Stanislav Malyshev" wrote: > > Hi! > > > One problem we discuss this using two different ends. I mainly focus on > > providing tools to ensure we have a safe context. While you seem to > > ensure that we do not mistakes, do not ban innocent or apply censorship > > inadvert

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi! > One problem we discuss this using two different ends. I mainly focus on > providing tools to ensure we have a safe context. While you seem to > ensure that we do not mistakes, do not ban innocent or apply censorship > inadvertently. If you looks at creating safe context without worrying abo

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On Jan 9, 2016 1:25 PM, "Stanislav Malyshev" wrote: > > Hi! > > > This is exactly what slightly annoys me to be honest. It exactly why > > we need a private group to deal with such events, even rare, or even > > if they will never ever happen again. > > > > Despite numerous people saying that it h

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi! > This is exactly what slightly annoys me to be honest. It exactly why > we need a private group to deal with such events, even rare, or even > if they will never ever happen again. > > Despite numerous people saying that it happens, including me. You > still say, heh, that's some vague allega

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 4:38 AM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: >> I am referring to multiple comments here of actual harassment or bad >> behavior (I described what it is) and agressivity. > > I still do not have any example of "actual harassment" that happened > anywhere on community resources. Even

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi! > I am referring to multiple comments here of actual harassment or bad > behavior (I described what it is) and agressivity. I still do not have any example of "actual harassment" that happened anywhere on community resources. Even examples of bad behavior that got people banned weren't really

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On Jan 9, 2016 2:03 AM, "Stanislav Malyshev" wrote: > > Hi! > > > For those still in doubts, ask users why they don't post to the list. > > Why they don't contribute. Our reputation of agressivity (and I take the > > blame on that too) did not do us any good and still do not. > > I think we have h

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

> -Original Message- > From: p...@golemon.com [mailto:p...@golemon.com] On Behalf Of Sara > Golemon > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 9:46 PM > To: Stanislav Malyshev > Cc: François Laupretre ; Anthony Ferrara > ; internals@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV]

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi! > For those still in doubts, ask users why they don't post to the list. > Why they don't contribute. Our reputation of agressivity (and I take the > blame on that too) did not do us any good and still do not. I think we have here very basic difference in definition. Being aggressive and uncom

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

> -Original Message- > From: Derick Rethans [mailto:der...@php.net] > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 7:18 PM > To: Sara Golemon > Cc: Zeev Suraski ; Anthony Ferrara > ; internals@lists.php.net > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct > &g

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi! > No. I will be willing to cut scope overall to cut how much it tackles > in the first swing, but I strongly believe that there needs to be some > sort of non-public resolution process defined. I agree, non-public CRT as part of the proposal seems fine. The punitive action is a bit more trick

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On Thu, 7 Jan 2016, Sara Golemon wrote: > On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > > > Having a CoC which is wider in scope and ratified by a voted RFC > > rather than an email on some mailing list sends a strong message. > > Having it in our contributor guidelines would also go a

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On Jan 9, 2016 12:02 AM, "Stanislav Malyshev" wrote: > And it may be mean "I fear being > harassed or physically threatened by opponent" - and if so, this fear > doesn't look exactly substantiated, since that never happened so far, at > least on the list, so I wonder how we can fix it taking into

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi! > I think many do agree. If you look at this 225+ reply thread, the vast > majority of karma holding people have not responded (even many who > frequent this list). A few (5+) of them have reached out to me > personally to say that they are explicitly staying out of this > discussion because o

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

> We've seen time and time again that the court of public opinion is a > horrific > judge for these style issues. This sentence has me worried in several different ways. Would you care to provide some references how the court of public opinion was a horrific judge for these style issues? Secondly

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:49 AM Anthony Ferrara wrote: > Kevin, > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Kevin Smith wrote: > > > > > >> On Jan 8, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Anthony Ferrara > wrote: > >> > >> > >> Simply look at the level of attacks that me and a few other committers > >> have received by m

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Kevin, On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Kevin Smith wrote: > > >> On Jan 8, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Anthony Ferrara wrote: >> >> >> Simply look at the level of attacks that me and a few other committers >> have received by making this proposal. I don't feel comfortable making >> any of those attacks p

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

> On Jan 8, 2016, at 09:39, Kevin Smith wrote: > >> Think about that. People who are long standing members of this >> community and project do not feel that they can safely respond to this >> very thread. Think of the irony there. > > For what it’s worth, I’ve had 2 people reach out to me priva

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

> On Jan 8, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > > > Simply look at the level of attacks that me and a few other committers > have received by making this proposal. I don't feel comfortable making > any of those attacks public (drawing more attention to them). Disclaimer: While I’ve fol

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Sara, On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 8:16 PM, Sara Golemon wrote: > On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >> Having a CoC which is wider in scope and ratified by a voted RFC rather >> than an email on some mailing list sends a strong message. Having it in >> our contributor guidelines wou

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

thony Ferrara [mailto:ircmax...@gmail.com] > > >> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 8:15 PM > > >> To: internals@lists.php.net > > >> Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct > > >> > > >> All, > > >> > >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > Having a CoC which is wider in scope and ratified by a voted RFC rather > than an email on some mailing list sends a strong message. Having it in > our contributor guidelines would also go a long way. > > I guess here we fundamentally disagree

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

PM > >> To: internals@lists.php.net > >> Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct > >> > >> All, > >> > >> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Anthony Ferrara > >> wrote: > >> > >> There has been some discussi

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On 1/7/16 4:48 PM, Bishop Bettini wrote: Hi Andrea, On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: I do wonder if we're really going anywhere here. I don't think we are. We're arguing protocol, process, and punishment before agreeing on rights and responsibilities. Design before r

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Le 07/01/2016 21:50, Zeev Suraski a écrit : -Original Message- From: Anthony Ferrara [mailto:ircmax...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 8:15 PM To: internals@lists.php.net Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct All, On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Anthony

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Zeev, On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Anthony Ferrara [mailto:ircmax...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 8:15 PM >> To: internals@lists.php.net >> Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] A

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi Andrea, On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > > I do wonder if we're really going anywhere here. I don't think we are. We're arguing protocol, process, and punishment before agreeing on rights and responsibilities. I suggest we agree on first principles. Submitted for consi

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

> -Original Message- > From: Anthony Ferrara [mailto:ircmax...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 8:15 PM > To: internals@lists.php.net > Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct > > All, > > On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Anthony

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi! > This was tried once [1] and there was an immediate knee-jerk reaction [1] > which resulted in quickly removing the feature. Maybe the winds have > changed between then and now? That was for technical RFCs, for which I still thing it is wrong. But, for conflict resolution, it may be differe

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Le 07/01/2016 10:03, Peter Cowburn a écrit : Just replying on the anonymous RFC votes side-topic. That's another question. Ideally, votes should be anonymous, even on RFCs. Scalar type hints have proved that seeing other's vote may be a very bad thing. This was tried once [1] and there was

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi! > It is broad for a reason. If harassment that's obviously connected > with the project (it would need to be obviously connected) happens > off-list, that's still problematic. I think limiting the scope to just > the project territories is dangerous as it provides too easy of a way > for membe

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On 1/5/16 6:03 PM, Larry Garfield wrote: On 1/5/16 4:13 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: I had numerous instances in the past where skillful third-party mediation allowed resolving differences and pave way for cooperation. So having people that can do that and are publicly known address for doing

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Le 06/01/2016 20:23, Andrea Faulds a écrit : Hi, Sara Golemon wrote: So, I'm all for a mediation team, but no sanction, even temporary, without a public vote. I'm glad you and I agree on this. There is the risk with public votes that whoever votes a particular way gets harassed for the way

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Le 06/01/2016 19:56, Sara Golemon a écrit : First, I didn't accuse you of anything. My response to your private email, was a private email back saying "hey, I don't know why you're so angry and name-cally, but go ahead and move forward with your version. I just didn't want it to get left on t

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: >> I'm glad you brought this back up, but you seem to have remembered a >> few things incorrectly. > > And this is a good example why information from both sides is essential. > Everybody has their own story, and human memory is unbelievab

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi! > There is the risk with public votes that whoever votes a particular way > gets harassed for the way they voted. While this doesn't happen very > much in technical discussions, I think there's a greater risk of that in > a vote on whether to sanction a person for unacceptable behaviour. Vote

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On 1/6/16 2:23 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > Hi, > > Sara Golemon wrote: >>> So, I'm all for a mediation team, but no sanction, even temporary, >>> without a >>> public vote. >>> >> I'm glad you and I agree on this. > > There is the risk with public votes that whoever votes a particular > way gets har

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi! > I'm glad you brought this back up, but you seem to have remembered a > few things incorrectly. And this is a good example why information from both sides is essential. Everybody has their own story, and human memory is unbelievably faulty even with the best of intentions. When some exciteme

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi, Sara Golemon wrote: So, I'm all for a mediation team, but no sanction, even temporary, without a public vote. I'm glad you and I agree on this. There is the risk with public votes that whoever votes a particular way gets harassed for the way they voted. While this doesn't happen very m

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:34 AM, François Laupretre wrote: > So, let's analyze what happened when I was accused of 'sabotage' and > 'strong-arming' because I had sent a supposedly offending mail to Sara. In > my reply, I published the mail in question so that everyone could judge by > itself wheth

[PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On 1/4/16 4:06 PM, Anthony Ferrara wrote: Hey all, I have created a new RFC for the PHP Project to adopt the Contributor Covenant as the official Code of Conduct for the project https://wiki.php.net/rfc/adopt-code-of-conduct Let me know what you think or if there are any concerns I'm not kee

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

François Laupretre wrote on 06/01/2016 16:34: So, let's analyze what happened when I was accused of 'sabotage' and 'strong-arming' because I had sent a supposedly offending mail to Sara. In my reply, I published the mail in question so that everyone could judge by itself whether it was offendi

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi, Le 06/01/2016 16:21, Anthony Ferrara a écrit : > I have received no less than 4 direct threats of violence that were directly due to my involvement > with the Scalar Type Declarations RFC. I'm surprised it went to that point but I'm glad you're talking about the STH saga, because this is

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi, I'll only comment on some specific points, so hence the trimmed email. On Wed, 6 Jan 2016, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Stanislav Malyshev > wrote: > > > > On Tue, 5 Jan 2016, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > > > >> I added a section on transparency, Conflict of Intere

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Stas, On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > >> In response to significant feedback here and elsewhere, I have >> expanded the text of the RFC significantly. It now includes the text >> of the Contributor Covenant 1.3.0 as well as including verbage about >> updating it

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi! > > own custom one, there are two reasons for this. First, it's a standard > > that's been adopted by a number of significant scale projects. Second, > > I completely disagree that Contributor Covenant's text is any kind of > "standard". I've seen a number of CoCs, and it's not the worst (thou

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi! > In response to significant feedback here and elsewhere, I have > expanded the text of the RFC significantly. It now includes the text > of the Contributor Covenant 1.3.0 as well as including verbage about > updating it requiring an RFC. Thanks for improving the RFC. It is already much bette

[PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi Nate, Nate Abele wrote: Hi Rowan, It looks like you're replying to someone here, yet your email isn't threaded as part of the main discussion by my newsgroup client (SeaMonkey). Is this intentional? -- Andrea Faulds https://ajf.me/ -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On Tue, 2016-01-05 at 23:49 +0100, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > that something which resonates with what Sara said and similar in nature > what we do with security@, point of contact, with trustworthy people > experienced on the topic and without any additional privileges apart of > being able to seeing

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi! > Exhibit A: > https://github.com/CoralineAda/contributor_covenant/commit/0e927bc01614d6b0de021a314dbe95e7dfcc7bb9#diff-eacf331f0ffc35d4b482f1d15a887d3bL17 > > Exhibit B: https://archive.is/dgilk (the threatening language at the > end is particularly chilling) > I think this kind of clearly

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On 1/5/16 4:13 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: I had numerous instances in the past where skillful third-party mediation allowed resolving differences and pave way for cooperation. So having people that can do that and are publicly known address for doing this is a good thing to me. If we lose t

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:13 PM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > >> True, but as Larry said, either side is problematic. Too loose of a > >> CoC with no enforcement and nothing really was changed from today > >> considering we already have the post that Rasmus made 6-7 years ago. > > That imp

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 10:00 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > Hi Chris, > > > Chris Riley wrote: > >> On Tue, 5 Jan 2016, 18:20 Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >> >> >>> Additionally, given that this CoC has far reaching consequences, I would suggest opening up voting on it's implementation to a wider segme

[PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi Rowan, I don’t presume to speak for Paul, but I don’t think the point is that any particular person involved in this discussion is presumed to have a political intent, rather that CoCs themselves (the Contributor Covenant in particular), and the people typically agitating for them, come fr

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi! >> True, but as Larry said, either side is problematic. Too loose of a >> CoC with no enforcement and nothing really was changed from today >> considering we already have the post that Rasmus made 6-7 years ago. That implies we do *need* change from situation today. But so far I didn't see an

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi! >> True, but as Larry said, either side is problematic. Too loose of a >> CoC with no enforcement and nothing really was changed from today >> considering we already have the post that Rasmus made 6-7 years ago. That implies we do *need* change from situation today. But so far I didn't see an

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Chase, On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Chase Peeler wrote: > While overall I tend to agree with Paul on the concept of a CoC, I don't > think that precludes the ability to offer suggestions. It's to everyone's > advantage to make sure that if we do adopt a CoC, we adopt the best one > possible. >

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

While overall I tend to agree with Paul on the concept of a CoC, I don't think that precludes the ability to offer suggestions. It's to everyone's advantage to make sure that if we do adopt a CoC, we adopt the best one possible. Obviously one of the biggest fears is unjust treatment of the accused

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Anthony Ferrara wrote: >>> It's been mentioned that we may want to adopt a CoC, but it shouldn't >>> "have teeth". I disagree here, as without an enforcement mechanism it >>> basically is no different from where we are at today. >> >> I think it's actually very dif

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi Chris, Chris Riley wrote: On Tue, 5 Jan 2016, 18:20 Ferenc Kovacs wrote: Additionally, given that this CoC has far reaching consequences, I would suggest opening up voting on it's implementation to a wider segment of the community eg those currently subscribed to the PHP mailing lists or

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Zeev, On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 3:10 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Anthony Ferrara [mailto:ircmax...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 6:16 PM >> To: internals@lists.php.net >> Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt C

RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

> -Original Message- > From: Anthony Ferrara [mailto:ircmax...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2016 6:16 PM > To: internals@lists.php.net > Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct > > As to the comments in this thread, I won't reply to e

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On Tue, 5 Jan 2016, 18:20 Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > >> Additionally, given that this CoC has far reaching consequences, I would >> suggest opening up voting on it's implementation to a wider segment of the >> community eg those currently subscribed to the PHP mailing lists or at >> least those who h

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

> > > Additionally, given that this CoC has far reaching consequences, I would > suggest opening up voting on it's implementation to a wider segment of the > community eg those currently subscribed to the PHP mailing lists or at > least those who have recently participated on one. > > ~C > wouldn'

Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

On 5 January 2016 at 16:15, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > All, > > On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Anthony Ferrara > wrote: > > Hey all, > > > > I have created a new RFC for the PHP Project to adopt the Contributor > > Covenant as the official Code of Conduct for the project > > > > https://wiki.php.

[PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

All, On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Anthony Ferrara wrote: > Hey all, > > I have created a new RFC for the PHP Project to adopt the Contributor > Covenant as the official Code of Conduct for the project > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/adopt-code-of-conduct > > Let me know what you think or if there

[PHP-DEV] Re: [RFC] [Draft] Adopt Code of Conduct

Hi, PHP friends. Following on from Larry’s comments, here’s a thing I wrote one time: https://gist.github.com/nateabele/8d156730dc428322fca5 Someone proposed adding the Contributor Covenant to one of my OS projects. I read it, and some of the language made me a little uncomfortable, so I wr