> On Jan 8, 2016, at 9:09 AM, Anthony Ferrara <ircmax...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Simply look at the level of attacks that me and a few other committers > have received by making this proposal. I don't feel comfortable making > any of those attacks public (drawing more attention to them).
Disclaimer: While I’ve followed this entire email thread, I’m sure I’ve missed stuff that’s going on outside it. I was genuinely going to ask which attacks you’re referring to until I got to that last sentence. It’s fair if you don’t want to share, but your argument was for us to simply look at the attacks you’ve received. If you’re referring to anything in this email thread (which again, that’s all I can draw from), I’d worry about creating a body with powers to punish attackers since we clearly don’t agree on what constitutes an attack. This discussion has been contentious, sure, but it’s concerning a very serious topic that would have far-reaching effects. I wouldn’t argue that anything we’ve seen coming from any perspective rises to the level of an attack though. Again, I’m happy to claim ignorance here because you may be referring to things that have gone on outside this thread. But since you don’t feel comfortable pointing to those attacks specifically, we’ve sort of reached an impasse. > If you look at this 225+ reply thread, the vast > majority of karma holding people have not responded (even many who > frequent this list). A few (5+) of them have reached out to me > personally to say that they are explicitly staying out of this > discussion because of the level of aggression and tone, but would be > willing to support a reasonable proposal (some provided meaningful > feedback on it, some support the current revision). > > Think about that. People who are long standing members of this > community and project do not feel that they can safely respond to this > very thread. Think of the irony there. For what it’s worth, I’ve had 2 people reach out to me privately to say they’re really uncomfortable with this proposal but don’t want to get involved because they're worried about being labeled “toxic”, and I’m a brand-new contributor. A real nobody. Kevin Smith Hearsay Interactive <http://gohearsay.com/>
