current-point for text insertion
is then returned to the position where it was before the above
is called.
Then you have to work out how you want to get the text to wrap.
You might use traps, or (more likely) simply do it by hand-and-eye!
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Amongst the list of contents:
Cip user's manual: one picture is worth a thousand words
Sally A. Browning
To access the content, however, you need an ACM account.
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swid" of the new character \[mychar] in whatever
context this occurs. Thus \[mychar] will always scale to have
the same width as "N" in the current context. You can of course
use some other specification for \n[msize] in "\R'msize ...'".
at the logic
has something to bite on:
.TS H
expand nospaces tab(@);
l c r.
\fBone @ two @ three\fP
.TH
1 @\&@ 3
.TE
then all is again fine. (you could put the "\&" anywhere
amongst the spaces -- the above with it at the end is just
one example).
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Qnxt \\n+[EQno]\\$1
.ds EQnow \\n[EQno]\\$1
An example of what the output from my standard mechanism looks
like can be seen at
http://www.zen89632.zen.co.uk/R/EM_Aitken/em_aitken.pdf
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mething like
In the International Phonetic Alphabet
A is Alpha, B is Bravo, C is Charlie, \[el] , Z is Zulu
(Or you could call it \[...] if you prefer ... )!
Hoping this helps,
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to eqn.
In practice, I prefer to retain control over the layout as in (for
example):
for $r ^=^ 1 , 2^ ,^^ldots^^, N$
Ted.
On 17-Dec-10 09:18:12, Ted Harding wrote:
> On 17-Dec-10 08:28:11, Cedric Sodhi wrote:
>> Hello,
>> according to man eqn an ellipsis of three subsequent dots will
llowing will work:
.EQ I
bold F ~=~ del phi
.EN
.EQ I
bold F ~=~ grad phi
.EN
.EQ I
define nabla %del%
bold F ~=~ nabla phi
.EN
Hoping this helps!
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, and would of course be freely available
(and possibly appropriate for bundling with groff).
So stand by.
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> the current Groff EQN manpage and add (with my own words) what is
> missing as for the traditional Roff EQN commands and the shortcuts such
> as del/grad. I'd really dislike to see you doing this all on your own
> without having contributed anything.
>
>
> On Mon, Ja
m time to time. Comments (off-list
if you prefer) welcome!
Best wishes to all,
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suggest "request" rather
than "command" (in line with basic groff terminology):
"If the optional second argument to de is present it is used
as the macro closure request instead of `..'"
Ted (Saesneg).
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> I would welcome comments and suggestions as I proceed, so I
> shall be putting the current draft up on my web-page as it
> progresses. The latest version is at
>
> http://www.zen89632.zen.co.uk/Groff/Eqn/eqnguide.pdf
>
> and it
and keep the comments coming!
Best wishes to all,
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box, and preserve alignment, use a
space in the same font (TR) both times -- like:
"\s12\fR \fP\fChash.c\fP" at 1.062,8.721 ljust
"\s12\fR Filename\fP" at 1.062,9.096 ljust
and *not*
# "\s12\fC hash.c\fP" at 1.062,8.721 ljust
# "\s12\fR Filename\fP" at
Since my message below has not been sent to me by the groff
list (after 1 hour), nor has appeared in the archives, I am
re-sending it (and taking the opportunity to add a further
comment -- se at end).
-FW: -
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 10:21:35 - (GMT)
From: (Ted Harding)
To: groff
at is
implied by these variables.
Ted.
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rk round this sort of issue,
all involving a certain amount of "bare hands" work with
groff commands.
Hoping this helps, for a start!
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and simply
creates troff code for what it finds between them.
Probably the simplest way to "save some typing" is to
use the copy-&-paste functionality of your editor to
copy down an existing instance of the table setup lines.
Some editors will alow you to defi
( args > 0) \{\
> etc
> \}
>
> to process unknown number of arguments?
>
> Looking through the mans and docs on while loops in groff, but will not
> inquire further if this is not possible.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Chad Roseburg
>
>
> On 05/18/2011 12:
emp after the first call to
.Tblone are:
.TS
allbox tab(#);
ce le le le le le.
one#two#three#four#five#twentyfive
.TE
and, after the second call:
.TS
allbox tab(#);
ce le le.
eight#nine#ten and eleven
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string res1 0 0
.ds res2 A4a72
.substring res2 1 1
.ds res3 A4a72
.substring res3 2 3
.ds res4 A4a72
.substring res4 4 4
would give res1 = A, res2 = 4, res3 = a7, res4 = 2.
Does this help?
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t, and similarly for the right-hand extent. Since the dummy
columns are associated with zero-space separation from their
neighbours, and have no content, they will have width 0, and
thwe vertical rules will be flush left/right.
Comments welcome!
Best wishes
On 07-Jul-11 16:19:28, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Werner LEMBERG wrote on Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 02:01:04PM +0200:
>> Ted Harding wrote:
>
>>> There is no 'tbl' option which allows a "no space" to be set in this
>>> context. However, th
with no content and zero separation, before and/or after,
as in
.TS
tab(#);
r0|l r0|l.
#left column#right column#
.TE
(The resulting "dummy" columns are invisible and have zero width).
Do you think that this is sufficient?
Best wishes,
Ted.
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uding the space in col. 17
' nf
. \}
. if (2=2) \{
\"Remove this comment including the space in col. 17
' nf
. \}
(The trailing "\" is not essential).
I agree that multiline conditionals are a bit tricky!
Best wishes to all,
Te
'pic' code -- without it, one gets unwanted vertical
displacements. However, it also means that one can include blank
lines in troff input to improve laypout for readability.
However, when trying out Anton's code, I had forgotten about
my '.blm' defi
put the entry \n+[lmno] into that column in each row.
But I thougt I'd try to be clever ...
Best wishes to all,
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e of the table. I then got the following code for the
example I posted:
.vs 5m
.ds lmn \Z'\v'-1.5m'\h'-\w'\\n+[lmno]\0\0\0\0\0'u'\\n[lmno]'
.nr lmno 0 1
.nr FM \n[FM]+5m
.TS H
expand tab(#);
ce cw(2.0i) ce.
Name (in Capitals)#Address#Signature
_
.TH
.T&
|l
x27;-\w'\\n+[lmno]\0\0\0\0\0'u'\\n[lmno]'
was precisely to allow for the current width of \n[lmn] (which,
in the present case might go up to 100+, or might not).
Best wishes to all,
Ted.
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On 31-Jul-11 13:10:36, Denis M. Wilson wrote:
> Hello Ted,
>
> On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 22:25:59 +0100 (BST)
> (Ted Harding) wrote:
>
>> Greetings All!
>> I'm writing to flag up a little trap that one might
>> fall into when using 'tbl'.
>>
; worked when I used
> .nr VS 5m
> .LP
>
> This is my command line:
> groff -ww -t -ms infile
>
> Denis
>
> On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 15:19:36 +0100 (BST)
> (Ted Harding) wrote:
>
>> On 31-Jul-11 13:10:36, Denis M. Wilson wrote:
>> > Hello Te
his is going to be a rather lengthy description of a
.br
task that I had which is so long that groff is complaining about
.br
the length of the line
T}
07/2003-04/2006|Yet Another Company I Worked For
_
|The role I had there
|T{
.IP -
Some more tasks
.IP -
You will get the idea
T}
.TE
Stand by for further suggestions (from me or others)!
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in-line, as in
Since \fB05/2006|My Company in Downtown\fP
Hoping this helps! And hoping to incite others to contribute ideas!
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code.
I will try to work out how this can be done, but not just now!
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On 01-Dec-11 11:59:31, Krzysztof Żelechowski wrote:
> Użytkownik (Ted Harding) napisaÅ:
>> What is missing, which would allow your need to be filled
>> equally simply, is an attribute (say "hatched") which would
>> work similarly:
>>
>>box w
ting
the number of lines is pulling back the leftovers of hyphenated
words onto the same line as their parent, since that can often
reduce the number of lines in a paragraph by 1. To do this,
pick and mix the above methods according to taste,
All such approaches imply making the changes to the fo
On 08-Jan-2012 Deri James wrote:
> On Saturday 07 Jan 2012 22:59:46 Ted Harding wrote:
>> Just a few somewhat random thoughts. I've been through this
>> sort of thing too often for it to be easy or quick to summarise!
>
> I remember reading (on this list) a PHD the
he section if
"Section" matches the name of th section.
Even then, this would only output a single section. If you
wanted to choose more than one section you would have to
devise a more complicated system! (Could be done, but no-one
is going to re-write the man pages like this anyway)!
Follow-up to my previous reply:
On 22-Jan-2012 Ted Harding wrote:
> On 22-Jan-2012 Siteshwar Vashisht wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Is there any option in groff to parse only a specifiec
>> section of man page? For e.g. when I say
>>
>> groff -X -P -resolution -P100 -man pas
connection (1200 baud at the time), so I
wrote it in FORTRAN (the only compilable language I could
obtain for the machine at the time). It worked OK.
Then, later, I found a C compiler (Aztec C, if anyone remembers
that)[*] and that worked even better (and was an interesting
exercise in learning C).
Ted.
le:
.EQ
X = "\n[subno]" over "\n+[subno]"
.EN
but, as I said, that sort of thing is not needed for your
application as described.
Hoping this helps,
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'\\*n')/2
> .ds x \\$1
> .substring x 0 0
> .if \\nm=1 \Z'\|\\*x'\c
> .if \\nm=2 \Z'\|\\*x'\c
> \Z'\\*W'\c
> \h'\\nwu'\v'1m'\\*n\v'-1m'\h'\\nwu'\\$2
> .nr n +1
> ..
> .\"
> .sp 3c
> .ps 12
> .vs 14
> .\"
> .nr m 1
> .Z
> I am
> .Q honored
> to be with you today at your
> .Q commencement .
> .nr m 2
> .Z
> I am
> .Q honored
> to be with you today at your
> .Q commencement .
> .nr m 3
> .Z
> I am
> .Q honored
> to be with you today at your
> .Q commencement .
Beautifully crafted, Tadziu!
Ted.
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se mom for that, after all?
>>
>> The mom macros implement no special handling for PSPIC. Neither do
>> they implement keeps, so I wouldn't look to them as a solution.
>>
>> --
>> Peter Schaffter
>>
>> Author of The Binbrook Caucus
>> http://www.schaffter.ca
>
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) to allow for the
space which is occupied by the graphic, enter the text and,
when the text has reached the point where it the next line
will be output below the graphic, re-set to the oroginal
values using .po, .ll, .in; and then carry on as usual.
Hoping this helps (it's a potentially big topi
.PS
nLines=20
lineWidth=3i
interlineHeight=0.2
line lineWidth;
for i=1 to (nLines-1) do {
line lineWidth at last line.start +(0i, -interlineHeight)
}
.PE
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d will be self-contained and should not
interfere with anything else (unless you choose your settings
so that it overwrites something above it ... ).
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aracters, so that one
can write, for instance, \[Tch]a\[i:]kovski\[i:] ) -- but this
requires a further call of a macro to define the Cyrillics).
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1", not 0? Not that I'm helping
>
> --jkl
Let me help ...
IxHUBnrPmuSCFrrURlPkpvhRDghbPCfJuuVQtRKnetWeqfdffE
NXTVxkVTWuKaymQHgvSxGwgRAQVLtXVGlOMwZXFGqzgJvcCWto
xNvaXrvnsPmKzWOHXTpwXWYwYZMcfkuECpkCPggGrYAWAUUfad
UePSGaWtnXseTygfUOiHgwYpWAeROlkrorQmEekABhzNANAzat
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contexts one may wish to underline instead,
which gets more complicated in groff (and would be defined in
macros rather than in strings). Then its implementation would
look different, though it stills seems to be to come to the
same thing.
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g is more typically
> .sp .5v
>
> You may need to set a variable that enables you to deal with the
> first instance of a paragraph, then do the right thing for
> subsequent ones.
>
> Clarke
Specifically (with reference to your request for a blank line
in 2nd and later invocat
and r=1 circles get displaced!
Any comments?
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e style of this by defining your own version of
\*< and \*> as strings, using
.ds < [...]
.ds > [...]
to, for instance, move down a different amount, or not change the
point size by so much, etc.
Hoping this helps,
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OOPS! [see at end]
On 30-Jul-2012 23:03:47 Ted Harding wrote:
> On 30-Jul-2012 22:06:18 Timothy Groves wrote:
>> I need to embed subscripts in my document. In particular, I want
>> something that in eqn would be expressed as 'V sub 0' and 'V sub 1'.
>&g
urgent\s0\fP" at (0.8i, 0i)
> ljust ;
> "\f[BMR]\s11 \[radiobutton] not important and not urgent\s0\fP" at(3.5i,
> 0i) ljust ;
> .PE
>
> With this fix, it does work as intended.
> I use cygwin with groff version 1.21.
> I'd like to know if it's a normal behaviour, and if indeed, can someone
> explain the logic ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> Emmanuel
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OO user (still less a Word etc user ... ).
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mats
produces the result:
9 0
ix i
9 0 ix i
And you could extend the macro to get the value from some register
other than \n%, using a second argument, e.g.
.de getnum
.ds rf \\g[\\$1]
.af \\$1 1
.nr \\$2 \\n[\\$1]
.af \\$1 \\*[rf]
..
so that ".getnum reg1 reg2" would put the numerical
gt;>
>> Unix Text Processing
>>
>> available at
>> ftp://ftp.ffii.org/pub/groff/contrib/documentation/utp/utp-1.0.tar.gz
>>
>> I found the CSTR quite difficult. Has anybody some recent experience
>> in indexing or some newer helpers?
>> BTW. I would try to do it with the mom macro package
>>
>> Greetings, Johann
>>
>
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some different number of lines in the text block
(say 4), then use \v'3v'. And so on.
The \v'-4v' returns the vertical position to the original position
at line 1, so that if you have further columns they are not affected
by the vertical movement in column 2.
Hoping this helps,
T
athaway, | |
> |with whom he had three | |
> |children | Text |
> +-----------+--+
> $
>
> Cheers, Ralph.
Well spotted, Ralph! I had overlooked/forgotten the 'd' specifier.
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lipped
that "u" into neghbour' -- he would have been setting it up himself!
However, my then (1991) installation of groff is no longer
accessible, so I can't check directly.
Anyone know?
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t, then I think one can say that Werner created it anew,
and then, in my opinion, has not "mixed up" US and UK spelling,
but has simply chosen one in preference to the other!
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needing
>> another standardising patch. Leaving it as is saves future work. ;-)
>>
>> Cheers, Ralph.
>
> Amen.
>
> --
> Mike Bianchi
And from me too!
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\\*[direct]
..
you should find that it does the right thing, since now, when called,
.indirect re-reads \*[direct] and evaluates \n[rst] and \n[rsb]
at their ambient values.
Hoping this helps,
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Ted.
>> Many thanks.
>>
>> --jkl
>>
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(etc.).
Hoping this helps. To understand the rest of your query, we need to
see the example you geberated.
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with the br tag :-) but putting in several .BR tag does'nt seem to work
>> here. So how to do that.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Mikkel
>>
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o produce a booklet.
You would need to replace "-pa4" (which is for 8.3 × 11.7) in the
command by "-pletter" (which is for 8 1/2 x 11).
'psbook' and 'psnup' are both part of the 'ghostscript' suite of
programs.
Hoping this helps,
Ted.
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lph.
You're correct, Ralph! Sorry, it seems I was writing of the back
of my head there ...
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On 23-Nov-2012 22:11:35 Anonymous wrote:
> Subject: Re: Exact column widths in 'tbl'
> References:
>
>>Greetings all!
>>This is a follow-up to Chriss Schaller's query yesterday,
>>and the subsequent replies. I have opened e new thread,
>>since it is a topic of general interest.
>
>>Of course the
t on page 1 (by,
presumably, 1 VS), so that (relative to the text) the picture on
page 2 appears slightly raised (by one VS).
So I'm pretty sure that Tadziu's explanation is the correct one.
And the solution to the problem is to do something like ".LP"
to get things going text
On 02-Dec-2012 18:40:11 Clarke Echols wrote:
> In a recent email the syntax:
>
> groff <<
> was used.
>
> I've used Unix/Linux for over 25 years, and I've never seen
> that "triple redirect" before. What does it do? I get nowhere
> with a Google search because it ignores the '<<<'.
>
> T
t;invisibly").
This may be of interest to some, and I would also welcome comments
from anyone who has more insight into how to do this sort of thing!
Best wishes to all,
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tend.
The reason for asking you these questions is that there are various
possible sorts of relevant information, which may or may not be
present in a given PostScript file (depending on what software made
it, and on options which the user may have chosen).
Best wishes,
Ted.
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>
> On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 12:31:27 -, Ted Harding wrote :
>> And to Ralph's question I would add: Tell us exactly *what* you
>> want to know!
>
> So, as you say, I want to know how far from the left-hand edge of the paper,
> and from the right-hand edge,
at a PS file can pretend to meet the
criteria! However, maybe I'm getting cynical ...
Best wishes to all,
Ted.
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ff v1.22.1)
> Denis
Hmmm ... I get:
troff -ww -dpaper=A4 -dcA5 <<'END'
> .tm PAPER = \*[paper] c = \*[c]
> .ex
> END
PAPER = A4 c = A5
(But: groff version 1.18.1)
Ted.
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en
a new (and superfluous) blank page can be triggered (in ms macros at
least). But this is a case of springing the "bottom of page" trap, and
does not relate, I think, to what smoore is experiencing.
So yes, please, a simple example!
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with each other and with ms).
If, for instance, you were to write
groff -tpe -mm -ms -me -Tps
then the Universe would fall apart!
So (while I have not studied hdtbl) I suspect that
groff -man -mhdtbl ...
plants incompatibilities, leading to errors.
Ted.
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quot; "\(md" }%
sdefine forall %{ type "operator" "\(fa" }%
sdefine thereis %{ type "operator" "\(te" }%
sdefine suchthat %{ type "operator" vcenter roman ":" }%
sdefine in %{ type "binary" vcenter "\(mo" }%
sdefine notin %{ type "binary" vcenter "\(nm" }%
sdefine asymp %{
type "binary" vcenter "\v'0.1n'\s[\En[.s]*12u/10u]\(ti\s0\v'-0.1n'" }%
Hoping this helps. Please follow up with further queries if
any further help is needed!
Best wishes,
Ted.
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finally tracked it down to:
http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewvc/groff/contrib/?root=groff&pathrev=MAIN
where these is a link to RUNOFF. Here there are 4 files:
ChangeLog
Makefile.sub
groff_filenames.man
runoff.man
Best wishes to all,
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he use of "\" makes this command equivalent to:
line -> from (0,0) to (0,2) sprintf("%.2f",dist) aligned above
And, of course, if you just want text set in a particular direction,
but without a visible line, then also use the "invis" attribute.
For example:
.2#13.5
24/09/2013#3.4#11.6##30/09/2013#5.9#114.1
24/09/2013#4.5#12.7##\01/10/2013#6.5#15.6
25/09/2013#5.1#13.2##\02/10/2013#7.2#16.5
.T&
|c s s|c|c s s|.
_##_
.TE
The result (from my machine) is attached as PDF: twotablesinone.p
on whether or not a keep was needed.
>
> I'm obviously doing something wrong, because 1) the second table doesn'
> line up, and 2) the way it doesn't line up varies, and 3) the keep
> behavior varies according to where the table falls.
>
> What's the right way, please?
>
> --jkl
>
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ry has prompted me to add a
section on "multiple-line equations", so here is the result.
The new section is on pages 5-6 of the attached PDF:
eqnguide.pdf
Comments welcome!
Best wishes to all,
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le, I would
be happy to so the same for you some day.
Cheers,
Ted.
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eqnguide.pdf
Description: eqnguide.pdf
[See in-line below]
On 02-Nov-2013 22:05:01 James K. Lowden wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 19:16:02 +0100 (BST)
> (Ted Harding) wrote:
>
>> Follow-up: I have found the source of your pronblem (the one
>> to do with vertical displacement). When a table is oujtput using
>>
ne
will output
This is a line
1 This is a line
4 This is a line
Hoping this helps!
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stage.
Just a further thought! My basic attitude to using [gt]roff is that
you can let the built-ins do their job so long as it comes out right,
but for the "final run" you may need to get those tweezers, leadings
and wedges out and shift stuff around by hand!
Best wishes to all,
Ted.
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y to
implement a two-pass technique (such as is typical for page-numbers
etc.) in order to be able to refer to equations qhich have yet to be
defined. This problem does not arise for equations labelled with
text (such as "[Normal]") since they are fixed strings which can
be defined at the
is what matters!
On a closely related issue: I quite regularly need to compute, within
a groff run, a numerical value which has a fractional part for insertion
in the text, or for computing fractional spacings, motions, etc. This
can be done using 'pic', which has good computational capa
only there for the /10. What's puzzling me
now is the >?5 since that's not "otherwise use 5 points" but
5 scaled points?"
Thanks for the comments. It shows that I was over-reacting to the
absence of non-integer arthmetic when it comes to setting point sizes
(though the point I raised in my original mail about slowing down the
rate of reduction with successive super/subscripting is a fair one,
I think).
With best wishes,
Ted.
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) 'eqn' does not put the "z" in, so I think between us we have
uncovered a deficiency in 'eqn'. Quite where in the 'eqn' code this
lurks is not obvious (to me at the moment). Or maybe, as you suggest,
it is only there because of the "/10" and 'eqn
s that ...
(x)=exp(-2x2)/2 (1)
Eqns. (1a), (1b) ...
The reason for the "can't find special character" warnings is that
the font-set for -Tascii is simply the ASCII character set, which
does not include Greek characters or mathematical symbols, namely
in the case of your example
special character `*p' Greek pi
special character `sqrt' Square root sign
special character `sqrtex' Square root extension [1]
special character `*f' Greek phi
[1]: The square root extension is a line which can be attached to
the top of the vertical part of the square root sign to make it taller
(i.e. to match a tall expression to the right of it).
Hoping this helps,
Ted.
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back to "runoff",
a program originally written for preparation of printed text.
Manpages came a bit layer.
And, finally, a comment about PDF. Some people have deprecated it.
But, if you created a carefully formatted document to send to
someone else, then usually this needs to be in PDF. UNIX/MacOS
and Linux users, if they know what they are doing, can access PS.
But many do no know what thney are doing, and they -- and of course
Windows users -- will only be able to cope with PDF.
I have, in the past, had the experience of sending PS files to
people who opened them in Word (with autosave mode active, of course)
who then (a) could not make sense of what they saw, and (b) screwed
up the original file because autosave arbitrarily overwrote parts of it!
I think PDF is here to stay for quite a long time, and is needed, and
I do not admit "anti-PDF" as arguments for not needing groff->PD->PDF
capability.
> -- Steve
> --
> Steve Izma
> -
Best wishes to all,
Ted.
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either method (whichever comes out best) or use them
in combination.
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Ted.
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t; .pb and .pe, usable within macro definitions, but also available
>> on-the-fly in cases where the user needs to specify the block of text
>> that constitutes a paragraph.
>
> Of course, in the interests of semantic markup, it may be useful to have
> a macro which would ex
ttp://www.xenopsyche.com/ip/junk/tao.html
(and not entirely irrelevant to current efforts ... )!
Best wishes to all,
Ted.
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