Re: Grr

2002-04-07 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 08 april 2002 sprak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > Seriously, I am thinking of hanging up my clubs. I am too old > for this game. Perl Golf truly is a sport and to compete > strongly you must be in tip-top physical condition. It wasn't my best tournament either. I had hopes until the last moment o

Re: TPR Challenges and the Future

2002-04-08 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 08 april 2002 sprak Adam Spiers: > "Perfection is achieved not when you have nothing more to add, > but when you have nothing left to take away." > -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery "Schrijven is schrappen." -- Godfried Bomans (To write is to delete.) Eugene -- "... en dit

Re: TPR Challenges and the Future

2002-04-08 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
> > shorter||death > > less||die > less||& Eugene -- It is when I struggle to be brief that I become obscure. (Horace)

Re: Perl poetry on the subject of Golf... a community written poem

2002-04-11 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 10 april 2002 sprak Keith C. Ivey: > I was wondering how many countries are represented. Difficult to tell, but the medal table after six events is as follows: GoldSilver Bronze Netherlands 32 1 United States 11 1 Germany

Re: for(sort@a){...} affects @a

2002-04-11 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 11 april 2002 sprak Yanick: > $ perl -v > This is perl, v5.6.1 built for i386-linux > $ perl -le'%a = qw/ a b c d/; s/./uc$&/e for %a; print %a' > aBcD > > And this one really takes the cake. Keys are modified, > but not values... But wait! There is more! No, values are modified, key

Re: PGAS Features & TPR Update

2002-04-11 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 11 april 2002 sprak Jonathan E. Paton: > > Also, I am happy to announce that Eugene will be in charge of TPR(0, > > 3) while I will be his PGAS-support-lackey and BoB admirer. > > You didn't remind him that 600 entries is roughly 4 an hour, so if he > spends just 2 hours of raw entry proces

Re: PGAS Features & TPR Update

2002-04-12 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 12 april 2002 sprak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > I don't think there should be any such limitation. > If someone win's the golf round 3 times running they deserve the recognition > for that. It's not about a limit on winning, it's about a limit on receiving prizes. Winners will get the recogniti

Re: Perl poetry on the subject of Golf... a community written poem.

2002-04-18 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 18 april 2002 sprak Stephen Turner: > Andrew, you have excelled even your own high standards. Agreed. 2577 lines! It's amazing! Eugene -- The uglier a man's legs are, the better he plays golf---it's almost a law. -- H. G. Wells

Call for referees TPR(0,3)

2002-04-20 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
Hi, After my call for referees last month, I received two reactions, so TPR(0,3) has three referees at the moment. As I would like to have a team of at least 4 refs, you can still join us. Two of the present refs are in America[0] (Eastern time zone), and one of us is in Europe, so I'm especiall

Re: Significant History toward the Cultural Edification of the Sport of Golf

2002-04-21 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 20 april 2002 sprak matthew wickline: > He charged the ranks of the goblins of Mount Gram in > the Battle of the Green Fields, and knocked their > king Golfimbul's head clean off with a wooden club. > It sailed a hundred yards through the air and went > down a rabbit-hole

Re: Ideas?

2002-04-30 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 30 april 2002 sprak Jonathan E. Paton: > > I've gotten some ideas for golf holes. I decided that the refs > > are probably either tearing their hair out trying to find new > > ideas, > > I wrote to Eugene to say I had some ideas too, and he never got > back to me on that. This suggests he

TPR(0,3) is open

2002-04-30 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
Attention all golfers! The course for the TPR(0,3) golf contest, also known, for no particular reason, as the Dutch Open, is now open to the public. It is located at http://perlgolf.sourceforge.net/TPR/0/3/ . Happy golfing! Eugene (on behalf of the TPR(0,3) refereeing team) -- Not that the s

Re: TPR(0,3) is open

2002-04-30 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 01 mei 2002 sprak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > En op 30 april 2002 sprak Eugene van der Perl: > > the TPR(0,3) golf contest, also known, for no particular > > reason, as the Dutch Open, ... > > It may be a tactical error to quibble with our esteemed > TPR03 referee, Hmmm. Your name is on ze list.

Re: Don't adjust your caddy...

2002-04-30 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 30 april 2002 sprak Yanick: > as those who already submitted solutions are aware of, > we are experiencing some, ah, minor temporary difficulties with > the PGAS scoring algorithm. OK, I think the problem has been solved -- and we have started to receive solutions. So send your solu

Re: Ideas?

2002-05-01 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 01 mei 2002 sprak Yanick: > On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 04:29:10PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > En op 01 mei 2002 sprak Eugene van der Pijll: > > > Well, we have been preparing the TPR(0,3) contest, but it wasn't dull. > > > > I'll bet it wasn

Re: individual->team transfers

2002-05-01 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 01 mei 2002 sprak Yanick: > On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 06:48:15PM +0100, Adam Spiers wrote: > > Are individuals going to be allowed to relinquish their role in the > > individuals category to join a team? I think this should be clarified > > ASAP, as it definitely changes the nature of the gam

Re: individual->team transfers

2002-05-01 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 01 mei 2002 sprak Ton Hospel: > I think retroactive remove should be done. Otherwise if the > veteran/beginner best does better than the teams, he can one > minute before the end form a team and win both with his solution. Nobody is so good that he cannot be beaten by a team[1]. And I would

Re: Is Bob getting laZy?

2002-05-02 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 02 mei 2002 sprak Ala Qumsieh: > > Just a stupid question: > > Since the best score for Cantor is 34.13, and that for Kolakoski is 52.13, > shouldn't BoB be at 86.26 instead of the pathetic 88.28? BoB could be. But as the best scores per hole are known, that does not add any new informati

Re: TPR(0,3) - Updated Test Script

2002-05-02 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 02 mei 2002 sprak Mark Schoonover: > As A first time golfer, I'm wondering if all of you are aliens! I can't speak for all of us, but most of us are. Please don't tell anyone. > I might have to 'ghost' this one, not sure I can make both holes on > this round... You can just submit one hol

Re: TPR(0,3) - Updated Test Script

2002-05-03 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 03 mei 2002 sprak Mark Schoonover: > My biggest problem really has not been Perl in itself, but is figuring out > how to do something. What I mean is, I can see how the Cantor fractal is > made, but how do I implement it in Perl... It will be interesting to study all the different solutions

Re: Leaderboard bug

2002-05-04 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 04 mei 2002 sprak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Looks like PGAS is caught in its own sandtrap: Aargh. That seems like a job for Dave to me. If you want to submit a solution, and you competed last time as well, go to last month's leaderboard, try to submit something, and change the course in the URL

Three days to go

2002-05-04 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
Hi all, The referees are enjoying themselves tremendously with all of your ingenious and devious solutions to our two little holes, and we hope you're having a moderate amount of fun too... We're just past halfway, and already 104 golfers have submitted their solutions, 687 in total. The battle

Re: Oh no!!!

2002-05-05 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 05 mei 2002 sprak Jerome Quelin: > >From the leaderboard: > Golfers in Play > Golfer Minutes Ago > Mickut 0 > Mtv Europe 33 > > I was hoping a quiet sunday :-) > > Anyway, the bets are open: what will be his first score (quick before the > refs validate

Re: Oh no!!!

2002-05-05 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
Jerome Quelin schreef: > On Dimanche 5 Mai 2002 12:16, Eugene van der Pijll wrote : > > Mtv hasn't submitted a valid kola yet, so you're still safe... > > Pfew, Thanks Eugene, you saved my day. ;) > > Anyway, now Mtv has entered the competition, I wish we were wed

Re: Request for a new category. Thoughts?

2002-05-05 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 05 mei 2002 sprak Tor Hildrum: > What about making a category for the rest of us? > Us mortals. Us who write code like this: > foreach $person (@names) { > print "$person\n"; > last if $person=~/Dr /; > } > > I know most of you would probably use about 10 strokes for this(wh

Re: Request for a new category. Thoughts?

2002-05-05 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 05 mei 2002 sprak Eugene van der Pijll: > En op 05 mei 2002 sprak Tor Hildrum: > > What about making a category for the rest of us? > > Us mortals. Us who write code like this: > > foreach $person (@names) { > > print "$person\n"; > >

Re: Request for a new category. Thoughts?

2002-05-05 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 05 mei 2002 sprak Tor Hildrum: > foreach (@names) { > print; > last if $_ =~/Dr /; > } > (untested as well) :) You do know that for and foreach are exact synonyms? > I am enjoying myself even though I'm not currently submitting my solutions. > But, a 'newbies' category o

Re: Request for a new category. Thoughts?

2002-05-05 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 05 mei 2002 sprak Tor Hildrum: > for (@names){print;last if /Dr /;} > > 34 strokes. For each space, parenthesis and semicolon in your solution, think carefully if they are needed. Or just try to remove them, and see if your solution still works. Eugene -- Golf is a day spent in a round

Re: Request for a new category. Thoughts?

2002-05-05 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 05 mei 2002 sprak Tor Hildrum: > > For each space, parenthesis and semicolon in your solution, think > > carefully if they are needed. Or just try to remove them, and see if > > your solution still works. > > for(@names){print;last if/Dr /;} > > 32 strokes :) > > I get the feeling that pe

Re: mySQL errors on perlgolf website

2002-05-05 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 05 mei 2002 sprak Evan A. Zacks: > I just submitted a solution for the first hole, and when I tried > to submit a solution for the second, I received an error (I > believe this came up previously): > > DBI->connect failed: Unknown MySQL Server Host 'mysql' (11) at > /home/groups/p/pe/perlgo

Re: mySQL errors on perlgolf website

2002-05-05 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 06 mei 2002 sprak Eugene van der Pijll: > En op 05 mei 2002 sprak Evan A. Zacks: > > I just submitted a solution for the first hole, and when I tried > > to submit a solution for the second, I received an error (I > > believe this came up previously): > > >

Re: Request for a new category. Thoughts?

2002-05-05 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 06 mei 2002 sprak Jason Henry Parker: > "Dave Hoover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > More importantly, though, is the endless hours golfers must spend > > mining perldoc, particularly perlfunc, perlvar and perlrun. Playing > > a hard game of Perl Golf *forces* you to learn more about Pe

Re: Thoughts on categories

2002-05-06 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 06 mei 2002 sprak Steffen Mueller: > If a player doesn't play one tournament, he can enter the same category he > was in in the next tournament. There may be more than the set number of > players in any one league - temporarily. Hmmm. So if my score on this month's competition is not high e

Re: Thoughts on categories

2002-05-06 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 06 mei 2002 sprak Steffen Mueller: > Even more confused? Real Golfers are never confused. Although I said I like the idea (and I do) I think it shouldn't be the official classification. I think this is more like Andrew's Carreer Prize Money List, and Yanik's Y-score. So if someone (you?)

Re: Thoughts on categories

2002-05-06 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 06 mei 2002 sprak Steffen Mueller: > "Eugene Van Der Pijll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > | En op 06 mei 2002 sprak Steffen Mueller: > | > | > | > Even more confused? > | > | Re

Re: Thoughts on categories

2002-05-06 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 06 mei 2002 sprak Eugene van der Pijll: > Real Golfers Can Understand Everything, No Matter How Incoherent. Oooh, that's actually a nice category idea: Real Golfers. Criterium: a Real Golfer should understand every program he submits 100%. (Oops, that excludes me... And Rick

Re: Benchmarking

2002-05-06 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 06 mei 2002 sprak Harley J Pig: > I don't know if anyone's brought this up before (where are the archives?) but > has anyone thought to benchmark these solutions? > > I'm curious as to which solution is actually faster|st. Hmmm, how about > memory footprints as well? We had to measure t

Re: Request for a new category. Thoughts?

2002-05-06 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 06 mei 2002 sprak Harley J Pig: > Hmmm ... maybe the perldoctut discussed elsewhere should focus on *how* to > golf, as opposed to what was done in a particular solution, while the monthly > column could be a practical application of the 'how'. After the Santa Challenge, there was some di

Re: Whats up with 1974...

2002-05-10 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 10 mei 2002 sprak Yanick: > On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 07:19:02PM +0100, Terje Kristensen wrote: > > Being an old man myself, I've been curious about the age group that > > the "Aliens" in perlgolf belonged to. Please, you have no evidence against us, so refrain from using that term. Or else..

Re: Minigolf

2002-05-16 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 16 mei 2002 sprak Ryan Russell: > > > Hang on... can't that be changed to: > > > > > > $m=pop;$n+=$m%$_?0:$_ for 1..$m-1;print$n > > > > > > you might be able to get rid of the space between "for 1". > > No, needs the sapce. Nope. Of course, you can't just delete it, but spaces around a

Re: World map of players

2002-05-23 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 23 mei 2002 sprak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > I am curious to see how close Ton lives to (-ugene We live about 40km from each other. And from the 1st of June I have a new job within 1 km of where he lives, if I'm not mistaken. (Mistaken about where he lives, I mean. Not about the job...) (-ugene

Re: World map of players

2002-05-23 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 23 may 2002 sprak Ton Hospel: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Matthew Byng-Maddick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 10:38:39PM +, Ton Hospel wrote: > >> My ICBM coordinates are latitude 52.083 longitude 4.333 > > > > This is a common myth, ICBM coordinat

Interesting C golf contest

2002-05-28 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
This is an interesting find for us golf historians. In the archives of comp.programming.contests I found this thread: http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=42ifbm%242tt%40vixen.cso.uiuc.edu The objective is to find the shortest C program that reverses all words in a file. The (surprising!) win

Re: Interesting C golf contest

2002-05-28 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 28 may 2002 sprak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > I wonder who is the most famous Perl celebrity to participate > in one of the recent tournaments. > Michael G Schwern > Tony Bowden > Ben Tilly > Autrijus Tang (individually) are only one time entrants. > Jarkko Hietaniemi has taken part twi

Re: Minigolf

2002-05-29 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 29 mei 2002 sprak Benot Chauvet: > > Anyone ready to exploit that you can write to the script? > > Waooo ! Sound great ! > > But the rules does not mention if the script must pass the tests twice. The script, *as originally written*, should pass the tests every time it is run. The state o

Re: Clash of the titans! Past the 160 barrier!

2002-06-04 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 04 juni 2002 sprak Ala Qumsieh: > > Ton has just zoomed past (-ugene blasting his way through the 160 barrier! > Just when you think there is no more juice to suck out of this hole, our own > Aliens prove otherwise! > > Will (-ugene reply back? Don't count on it. I'm stunned to find 7`on

Re: [tpr04] 2.5 days left

2002-06-05 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 05 juni 2002 sprak Ton Hospel: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Dave Hoover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > With 2 and a half days to go, the TPR(0,4) outcome is still in doubt. > > Eugene overtakes Ton and Ton regains the lead. Guillermo passes pom and pom > > I'm now in the dr

Re: Argh!

2002-06-07 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 07 juni 2002 sprak Piers Cawley: > So, I shave of a few characters to get down to 213 (hah!), try to > submit and see that Eugene has a solution pending that's broken the > 100 barrier No I haven't. It's a mistake. 93 is really impossible. (But I would have said the same thing about 150, on

Re: Argh!

2002-06-07 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 07 juni 2002 sprak Michael W Thelen: > I am mighty, mighty curious about what is making the difference between a score > around 190-210 and a score around 150-170. I'm curious about the difference between a 150 and a 151, myself. I've given up at least 5 times already, but this time it's f

Re: PGAS question about crazy chars

2002-06-08 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 08 juni 2002 sprak Dave Hoover: > Obviously, the easiest solution is to explicitly disallow stuff like that > and force people (Ton & Eugene) to use the longer versions of the > characters. But I don't like that. Neither do I. > Lars brought up the idea of using > syntax like %00 to be i

Re: Favorite quote

2002-06-08 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 07 juni 2002 sprak Michael W Thelen: > I have to say that my favorite comment is this one from a 151-stroke solution > by Ton: "I had some hope for this method, but never could make it short". I > would be happy if my non-short solutions could look like that one. :-) My favorite comment is

Re: Favorite quote

2002-06-08 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 08 juni 2002 sprak Dave Hoover: > Eugene wrote: > > My favorite comment is the message to the referees inside Marko > > Nippula's best solution... > > That's a message *from* the referees to Marko. Note the italics... No, I really meant Marko's comment. It's in his solution, not in the co

Re: PGAS question about crazy chars

2002-06-08 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 08 juni 2002 sprak Dave Hoover: > Eugene wrote: > > That is one option. Alternatively, you could perhaps use > TYPE="file"> to upload files. > > This has been suggested before and I remember resisting it. I realize now, > though, that my resistance was based on a false assumption that it

Re: Teeing-off times (was Re: Argh!)

2002-06-08 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 08 juni 2002 sprak Stephen Turner: > On Sat, 8 Jun 2002, Stephen Turner wrote: > > > Well, you've all very sweetly waited until I woke up before starting the > > discussion. I'm going to thank you by annotating the top 12 solutions for > > you (10 veterans and 2 beginners). > > OK, here t

Re: Life after death for TPR(0,4)

2002-06-09 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 08 juni 2002 sprak Mtv Europe: > Here is 149.23: > > #!perl -ap056 > sub > t{lc=~y/aeiouy//.v47.s/\w/$&/g}$_=/\./&&(@z=map//?t:$_^t^($_^=t^t),@F).": @F > ".t.":@z > ";y/\0/ /;s/( .{57})...+(. > .*.{0,56}\S+).*/$1..$2/ *applause* (-ugene -- Good things, when short, are tw

Re: formline

2002-06-11 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 12 juni 2002 sprak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Current Known Best Solutions > > I expect Mtv to improve on some of these. ;) > > santa 2 (19/various): > print+(<>)[-10..-1] santa 2 (19/japhy) map--$.>9||print,<> --$.>9||print for<> > santa 3 (13/eugene): > -p $

Re: eugene's solution

2002-06-12 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 12 juni 2002 sprak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > En op 12 juni 2002 sprak Geldenhuys Willie: > > yesterday evening i looked at Eugene van der Pijll's 311.34 solution > > (it was the closest to mine, except that mine didn't cope with >60 line > > sentences well enough to pass the test program and i wa

Re: World map of players

2002-06-13 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 13 juni 2002 sprak Stefan `Sec` Zehl: > 'tomorrow' was italian-style for 'not today' - alas i have now > implemented a small .cgi which gives a list of golfers to jump to. > Still the only place to test it is London, as far as I see. Until recently, there lived two golfers in Cambridge. Now

Re: perl golf

2002-06-13 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 13 juni 2002 sprak Yanick: > But, lo and behold, the bearded authority of the original > Mailing List came unto the cavorting crowd and said Hmmm. The only authority of the mailing list I know of is Vicki Brown. And while I don't know her personally, and haven't seen any picture

Re: The Homeworld

2002-06-13 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 13 juni 2002 sprak Ton Hospel: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > > * I live quite close to you, Dave. Dont make me angry > > > Now *that* is a good sort of argument, your public persona being close Mmmm. We're harmless. I mean, they're harmless. If they exist. Which they don't. At least

Re: ircnet minigolf2

2002-06-25 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 24 juni 2002 sprak Michael W Thelen: > Using (-ugene's famous }{ trick with the -p flag It's not my famous trick; it's Abigail's trick. At least, Abigail invented it, but I don't know if it can be called Abigail's Trick. That would imply that there is only one of them... (-ugene -- The u

Re: test #23

2002-07-03 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 03 juli 2002 sprak Steffen Mueller: > This really isn't a new rule, I think. The rules never stated that your > entry isn't supposed to work on a very large number of nodes. In fact, we > deliberately did not limit the number of nodes. Hence, we cannot allow > hardcoded limits. What do you

Re: Only (more or less) 12 hours left...

2002-07-07 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 07 juli 2002 sprak Stephen Turner: > On Sun, 7 Jul 2002, Yanick wrote: > > > > Eugène is actually a whole five strokes behind. > > > > I expect Eugene has 63, but he's sitting on it until 1 minute before the > deadline so as not to spur Ton into greater feats of alienness. Am I that predi

Re: Hurrah! /-\ is a nostril ahead of `/ (yet again)

2002-07-07 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 8 juli 2002 sprak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > Stop Press. > > `/anick118.55 > /-\ndrew 118.57 > > `/ leads /-\ by a nostril (yet again). :((( Wow, that's quite a fight there, _just below me_ on the leaderboard. (-ugene -- Good things, when short, are twice as good. -- |3altasar (,rac

Re: My solution annotated

2002-07-08 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 08 juli 2002 sprak Ala Qumsieh: > > Along the same lines, here's my solution: And although I'm not a top golfer... -lan0 sub f{$p{$_}||=1/!$g{$_}+++map(&f,$x=~/^(.*) (?!\1 )\Q$_ /mg)+print}$x=$_;f for@F was my best solution, which cost me a whole night of sleep. But I just couldn't let `

Re: Stephen and Keith staging another epic duel

2002-07-08 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 08 juli 2002 sprak Stephen Turner: > But yes, I thought it was very cunning of Keith to knock me down a place > after my bedtime. Then why did you go to bed yesterday? > > I suppose watching Henman lose yet another Wimbledon > > semi-final has only compounded Stephen's misery. > > > > Ye

Re: more minigolf

2002-07-10 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 10 juli 2002 sprak Ton Hospel: > 0: 41 > 1: 42 36, for both. However, my solution doesn't comply to one of the standard rules of the TPR courses, and I can't test it. But it should work. (This is one of the challenges I consired and discarded for the May contest, so I've thought about this

Re: more minigolf

2002-07-11 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
uot; > > 81 Chris Dolan (factorials) > @_=map{$t=$n;$a=1;$a*=$t--/($n-$t)while$t>$_&&$n-$t<$_;$a}0..($n=pop);print"@_ > " 34 Eugene van der Pijll (rejected...) @a^+=(!$_,@a)for 0..pop;print"@a " > One-based > > 48 Jasper McCrea &g

Re: more minigolf

2002-07-11 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 11 juli 2002 sprak Chris Dolan: > #!perl > use Math::Random; > $z=pop; > map$_>0&&$_<$z&&$_[$_]++,random_normal 4e4,$z/2; > $_=int 0.5+$_/$_[-1]for@_; > print"@_\n" > > It *usually* succeeds up to N=5, but fails after that. If you only want to go up to 4, you can do a lot better than that

Re: more minigolf

2002-07-11 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 11 juli 2002 sprak Chris Dolan: > Phil Carmody wrote: > > > > What is > > @{[ ... ]} > > ? > > > > It's not in perlsyn, perlop, perlvar ... > > > > It's like this: This is also explained in perlfaq4 and perlref. Golf historians do not know who invented this technique, but the fir

Re: more minigolf

2002-07-11 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 12 juli 2002 sprak Eugene van der Pijll: > Golf historians do not know who invented this technique, but the first > recorded use dates from December 14, 1995. The author of that post to > comp.lang.perl.misc was Randal Schwartz, but his code was immediately > explained by an

Re: more minigolf

2002-07-11 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 12 juli 2002 sprak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Though Ton is not of this earth, the @{[...]} idiom is. > (I think Larry plans to clean it up for Perl 6, however). Andrew, thank you for posting this message, I was getting a bit annoyed at writing follow-ups to myself. The definitive and final firs

Re: more minigolf

2002-07-12 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 12 juli 2002 sprak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > y===c instead of 'length': Abigail I'm not sure about that at all. > From: http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00731.html > > "Yeah, but 'length' can be shortened to 'y===c' (which was > dubbed "Abigail's length horror" by Larry Rosler)." in a post

Re: Proposed Tournament Rule Change

2002-08-09 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 09 ogustus 2002 sprak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > En op 09 augustus 2002 sprak Stephen Turner: > > Oh, surely the medal table is by country of residence, > > not nationality? > > The medal table is (-ugene's invention, so I am happy to let > him decide. It's by whatever country I can associate wi

Re: Reflections

2002-08-09 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 9 ogustus 2002 sprak Michael W Thelen: > Actually, this is kind of an interesting question... what are the various ways > that people have used to get a value of 1 into a variable? These aren't all > very good, but here's what I can think of: $^F/2 . I'm a bit surprised that Marko Nippula

Re: Reflections

2002-08-09 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 9 ogustus 2002 sprak Stephen Turner: > Yes, I hadn't realised until I tried to use it in this tournament that the > $^I trick isn't as clever as it deserves to be, because $^I is the only $^x > that you can't write in only two characters. Apart from $^M and $^J. (-ugene -- It is when I s

Re: TPR(0,5?) call for referees

2002-08-10 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 11 ogustus 2002 sprak Juho Snellman: > I've volunteered to run the next TPR (hopefully not TPR(0,4d)). Hurray! I was getting a bit fed up... TPR(0,2): 14. Juho 74.38 15. Eugene 74.39 TPR(0,4b): 11. Juho 86.54 12. Eugene 87.57 TPR(0,4c): 1. Juho 95.19 2. Eu

Re: this must be golfable

2002-08-11 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
And on 11 sextil 2002 said Phil Carmody: > One way: > > perl -pe '$_=y/o |./10/d?pack(B8,$_):""' perl -pe '$_=y/|.//d?pack(B8,$_):""' perl -ne 'y/|.//d&&print pack B8,$_' In perl there are 256 binary digits. (-ugene -- The uglier a man's legs are, the better he plays golf---it's almost a

Re: this must be golfable

2002-08-11 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
| |o. o | ___ $ perl -pe '$_=y/|.//d&&pack(B8,$_)' ascii 0ASCII 0$ > --- Eugene van der Pijll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > perl -pe '$_=y/|.//d?pack(B8,$_):""' > > perl -ne 'y/|.//d&&print pack B8,$_'

TPR(0,4c) in Haiku

2002-08-11 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
The Course -- play a two hole course again one about numbers and one about strings program must print the postorder traversal of the binary tree smaller is better if your program is more than one line you must count the executable not the documentation defines the language Th

Re: Son of (-ugene's Cantor

2002-08-17 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 18 augustus 2002 sprak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > $_=$"x((1|1< ";print,s,(?<=\\)..,$&^v15.'|',eg,s,$,/\\,while+s+^ ++ > > I have forgotten how to do Ton's prefix minus 1 trick, > which might be useful here. It is. $_=$"x~-(1|1<

Re: Son of (-ugene's Cantor

2002-08-17 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 17 augustus 2002 sprak Eugene van der Pijll: > En op 18 augustus 2002 sprak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > $_=$"x((1|1< > ";print,s,(?<=\\)..,$&^v15.'|',eg,s,$,/\\,while+s+^ ++ > > $_=$"x~-(1|1< ";print,s/(?<=\\)../$&^v15.

Re: First posts of some famous golfers

2002-08-26 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 26 augustus 2002 sprak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Here are the first posts of some > famous golfers to fwp (apologies if I have made any > mistakes or left anyone off). > > > 18-juni-1999: Ronald J Kimball, corrected Bill Jones (spelling) > http://bumppo.net/lists/fun-with-perl/1999/06/msg00286.

Re: First posts of some famous golfers

2002-08-27 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 26 augustus 2002 sprak Yanick: > Other side note: it's truly a pity that European train controllers > refuse to take oversized ovians on-board. Really, it is... I know (-ugene > would have been *so* delighted by the surprise. Oh, I don't really mind those ostriches. After all, one of

Re: First posts of some famous golfers

2002-08-29 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 28 augustus 2002 sprak Yanick: > > But rest easy. I'm now gone, and I've done nothing while > I was around that could fall back on you when you less expect > it. Nothing at all. Thank you. This is very reassuring. I do not expect anything to fall back on me any more. (-ugene -- B

Re: Crowd Entertainment at half-time in the tpr05 golf tournament

2002-09-04 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 04 september 2002 sprak Mtv Europe: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Savige) wrote: > > There seem to be quite a few new Russian and Chinese looking > > names in this tournament. Has Mtv has popularised golf in Moscow? > > No, i didn't do it. > > And don't think that i'm happy to see them (ahea

Re: Michael Thelen is my hero

2002-09-05 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 05 september 2002 sprak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > he has just moved one stroke > clear of two of the greatest golfers of all time, > Eugene van der Pijll and Mtv Europe. That's because I was on the wrong track, then. But now I have, reluctantly, abandoned my previous approach, and

Re: Some random reflections on tpr05a

2002-09-08 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 08 september 2002 sprak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > First, thanks and kudos to the refs. > You should be proud of running a great tournament. Yes, well done Juho, Terje and Francesc. It must have been a difficult week for you... > To me, the best golf problems are those that allow > many differen

Re: Some random reflections on tpr05a

2002-09-08 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 08 september 2002 sprak Tina Mueller: > the thing which is interesting for me with every new hole is > the algorithm. (i have yet to understand eugene's one =) The algorithm is nothing special. It's just hard to see what's happening because of the compactness of my shortest solution. The w

Re: Some random reflections on tpr05a

2002-09-08 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 09 september 2002 sprak Tina Mueller: > On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Eugene van der Pijll wrote: > > > a1z + a2z * a3z + a4z * (a5z + a6z) + a7z > > you wouldn't need two markers. a\d+ would be enough cause > after a number there will always follow a non-digit. No, a\d+

Re: Some random reflections on tpr05a

2002-09-09 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 09 september 2002 sprak Julien Quint: > > s// $2 $1/ while /x(.)(\PL+)/ + /x([*\/](\PL+)/ > > (the + has the same effect as the | here, with the benefit of improving the > tie-breaker score, which I needed badly to match Alexey's score). Note here > that I am also exploiting the empty

Re: Some random reflections on tpr05a

2002-09-09 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 09 september 2002 sprak Greg Allen: > well impressed by some of Eugene's tricks. is this first use seen in golf of > /[@_^abc]/ or similar use of a variable toggle the meaning of the ^ ? Possibly. I made it up myself. It could have been invented independently elsewhere, of course. (-ugene

Re: The Mr Magoo Awards (tpr05a)

2002-09-10 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 10 september 2002 sprak [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > >$lose_some_weight =~ s/\A(.{$i})(.)/$1/s; That \A is not needed. And your program doesn't find it... Some clever routine to recognize these atoms and to remove them in one piece is needed. > Just by running mrmagoo.pl, I was able to shorte

Perl 6 Mini-Conference in Zurich

2002-09-10 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
Does anyone know if the text of Larry's talk at the Perl 6 mini-conference will be on-line afterwards? It sounds like a very intriguing talk. If nothing else, it will be a great source for sig-quotes. The announcement reads: Thursday, 12 September 9:00-10:00 Larry Wall Keynote: Studies in the B

Re: The Mr Magoo Awards (tpr05a)

2002-09-11 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 11 september 2002 sprak Greg Allen: > now how about a quotes/sig file with one line descriptions of golf aphorisms? > here we go: > > ~$a -- true if ASCII string is non-empty, works for "0" > [$a^abc] -- toggle a charset by making $a non-empty > $|++ -- alternately 0 and 1 > $^I -- variable

Re: Two new golfs are available

2002-09-18 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 18 september 2002 sprak Mtv Europe: > So with considerable help from you and Greg Allen we expanded testsuit > to version 6 and sligtly updated the rules. > > Players, please retest your solutions. No, please, I don't want to! > The most important clarification is concerned to strict defi

Re: (-ugene is famous

2002-09-24 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 24 september 2002 sprak Tina Mueller: > > yes, and i was actually a little bit disappointed because > perlgolf played such a little role at thomas' obfu-talk. That's how it should be, IMHO. Obfuscation and golf are two totally different playing fields, and there seems to be little overlap

One day of golf

2002-10-06 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
After just one day of the TPR(0,5b) competition, it's clear that the quality of play is much higher than the referees expected. Before the start of the competition, Bob had found a 209, which now would have resulted in a disappointing 9th place. At the top of the leaderboard, Mtv has an unprecede

Test script and rules updated

2002-10-06 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
Rick Klement has found a couple of mistakes in the rules and in the test script. * The description of the tiebreaker did not correspond to the implementation. The real tiebreaker favours those programs with the *lowest* number of alphanumerics/whitespace, and I've updated the rules. * The

Re: Perl Golf and 1974

2002-10-09 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
En op 09 oktober 2002 sprak Yanick: > On Wed, Oct 09, 2002 at 06:53:46PM +0100, Stephen Turner wrote: > > > Is there really anything more to say? > > > > When is the year of the flaming ostrich? > > 2017. Two thousand seventeen? No, you're confusing it with your score on strtol.pl. (In f

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