Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Joshua Murphy
2009/10/2 Arthur D. : >> Go to LFS, build it all, build emacs, set EDITOR to emacs, and run >> sudo visudo. Please. I have a rather good guess that you'll be, >> amazingly, using the default that was set at build time for the sane >> default editor, in LFS's case vim (whether called by that or the

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Arthur D.
Go to LFS, build it all, build emacs, set EDITOR to emacs, and run sudo visudo. Please. I have a rather good guess that you'll be, amazingly, using the default that was set at build time for the sane default editor, in LFS's case vim (whether called by that or the vi symlink to it), that the distr

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gnome 2.26 stable?

2009-10-01 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Daniel Troeder schrieb: > ALSA is not a service (it's just drivers and API). There is nothing > running. It just loads your configuration (modules and volume levels). > PA on the other hand does not have hardware drivers - it relies on ALSA > or OSS for that. thanks, already activated it successf

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 2:30 AM, Joshua Murphy wrote: > 2009/10/2 Arthur D. : You appear to be demonstrating that you don't fully understand the problem: 828 ~ $ grep nano /usr/portage/app-admin/sudo/sudo-1.7.2_p1.ebuild        # XXX: /bin/vi may not be available, make nano

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Joshua Murphy
2009/10/2 Arthur D. : >>> You appear to be demonstrating that you don't fully understand the >>> problem: >>> >>> 828 ~ $ grep nano /usr/portage/app-admin/sudo/sudo-1.7.2_p1.ebuild >>>        # XXX: /bin/vi may not be available, make nano visudo's default. >>>                --with-editor=/bin/nano

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Arthur D.
I really don't see your problem. All that was needed here on my box was setting VIM as my editor of choice (I preferer to do that per-user so no setting of anything in rc or /etc/env.d) and VISUDO accepted it. No magic involved. Sebastian, I already fixed the problem for my local host. But I kno

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 08:06 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > why is it always vim users who get their panties in a knot about > nothing? > You are likely wrong about this. I'm willing to bet that a lot of people, even people responding to this thread, are vim users. However most of us know h

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 02.10.2009 07:29, schrieb Arthur D.: > I repeat once more. > Every user who has VIM installed on theirs systems is forced to do extra > configuration, to make sudo work as expected, just because someone prefer > other editor and thinks that vanilla choice is bad. Isn't that just stupid? I have

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 02 Oktober 2009, Arthur D. wrote: > >> You appear to be demonstrating that you don't fully understand the > >> problem: > >> > >> 828 ~ $ grep nano /usr/portage/app-admin/sudo/sudo-1.7.2_p1.ebuild > >># XXX: /bin/vi may not be available, make nano visudo's default. > >>--

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Arthur D.
You appear to be demonstrating that you don't fully understand the problem: 828 ~ $ grep nano /usr/portage/app-admin/sudo/sudo-1.7.2_p1.ebuild # XXX: /bin/vi may not be available, make nano visudo's default. --with-editor=/bin/nano \ How so? That config option for sudo se

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 20:55 -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: > To claim that "I try to change things that are 'wrong' (I fight for > injustice)" is silly, in this context. This is not civil rights . . . > this is not genocide . . . this is an OS distro that is free and MAY > fit your needs. To complain ab

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Neal Hogan
In response to the subject and the OP . . . YES! If you'd rather have your free OS accommodate your needs, then perhaps you should find/create one. Otherwise, shut up or make your suggestions less obnoxious (realizing the non-native English issue). The OP's position (from what I can tell) has be

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread forgottenwizard
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 12:04:38PM -0700, James Ausmus wrote: > 2009/10/1 Arthur D. > > The Gentoo Way of doing things is to stick as close to "vanilla" upstream as > possible, and to enable you to have complete control over your box, > including configurations. In other words, if you want someth

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread forgottenwizard
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 09:45:40PM +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Donnerstag 01 Oktober 2009 21:32:56 schrieb forgottenwizard: > > > However, I'm also wondering why the ebuild doesn't make use of the > > EDITOR variable as was mentioned. > > Because that's the worst thing to do. An ebuild's be

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:54:50 +0100, Stroller wrote: > > I think you need to re-read the ebuild. sudo depends on virtual/ > > editor, > > not nano. Nowhere is nano hardcoded to be a requirement of sudo. On > > the > > other hand, if you went with the upstream settings, you'd need to > > add vim

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Stroller
On 1 Oct 2009, at 23:53, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:12:36 +0300, Arthur D. wrote: I think it's most reasonably to omit that hardcoding line from ebuild. I think you need to re-read the ebuild. sudo depends on virtual/ editor, not nano. Nowhere is nano hardcoded to be a re

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:12:36 +0300, Arthur D. wrote: > I think it's most reasonably to omit that hardcoding line from ebuild. I think you need to re-read the ebuild. sudo depends on virtual/editor, not nano. Nowhere is nano hardcoded to be a requirement of sudo. On the other hand, if you went wit

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:45:51 +0300, Arthur D. wrote: > It's like, "oh, please you install nano, or I refuse to run". It's nothing like that at all. As long as you have an editor installed and configured correctly, visudo will quite happily run without nano. -- Neil Bothwick Help put the "fun"

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using sys-devel/gcc-4.4.1

2009-10-01 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 10/1/2009 6:26 PM, Dale wrote: It has finished the emerge -e system so far. Not a single failure that I can see. Do have to update a config file tho. ;-) In case anyone's keeping score, I've been using gcc-4.4 with the hardened profile (from the hardened-development overlay, of course)

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using sys-devel/gcc-4.4.1

2009-10-01 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Dale > wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm thinking about upgrading to gcc-4.4 and was wondering if > anyone here > is using it and if they are having any problems with it. I'm using a > desktop system

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Stroller
On 1 Oct 2009, at 22:01, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag 01 Oktober 2009, Stroller wrote: On 1 Oct 2009, at 21:28, Mike Edenfield wrote: On 10/1/2009 3:32 PM, forgottenwizard wrote: However, I'm also wondering why the ebuild doesn't make use of the EDITOR variable as was mentioned.

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 01 Oktober 2009, Stroller wrote: > On 1 Oct 2009, at 21:28, Mike Edenfield wrote: > > On 10/1/2009 3:32 PM, forgottenwizard wrote: > >> However, I'm also wondering why the ebuild doesn't make use of the > >> EDITOR variable as was mentioned. This defaults to nano so it should > >> wor

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Stroller
On 1 Oct 2009, at 21:28, Mike Edenfield wrote: On 10/1/2009 3:32 PM, forgottenwizard wrote: However, I'm also wondering why the ebuild doesn't make use of the EDITOR variable as was mentioned. This defaults to nano so it should work fine in a default install, and would avoid issues like this

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Arthur D.
I would be hesitant to use a user-specific variable like EDITOR to define the system-wide default on an ebuild. For example, what if my EDITOR was set to gvim or emacs when I installed sudo, then some other remote user tried to run visudo over ssh? Consider that gvim will be just a fallbac

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 10/1/2009 3:32 PM, forgottenwizard wrote: However, I'm also wondering why the ebuild doesn't make use of the EDITOR variable as was mentioned. This defaults to nano so it should work fine in a default install, and would avoid issues like this which seems to be an arguement that the dev(s) are

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 10/1/2009 1:34 PM, Arthur D. wrote: I'm using a 4 years old system, and if I change that line, log out and in again, it changes the env variable and everything works (that means the behavior is probably caused by your configuration). If visudo is still using that configuration, maybe that's be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gnome 2.26 stable?

2009-10-01 Thread Daniel Troeder
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 15:08 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Daniel Troeder schrieb: > > On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 06:48 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > >> Daniel Troeder schrieb: > >> Same here. After booting no sound ... in PA all looks good, after some > >> searching I find alsamixer mutes

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Arthur D.
James Ausmus писал(а) в своём письме Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:04:38 +0300: The Gentoo Way of doing things is to stick as close to "vanilla" upstream as possible, and to enable you to have complete control over your box, including configurations. In other words, if you want something configure

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Arthur D.
Dirk Heinrichs писал(а) в своём письме Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:45:40 +0300: Am Donnerstag 01 Oktober 2009 21:32:56 schrieb forgottenwizard: However, I'm also wondering why the ebuild doesn't make use of the EDITOR variable as was mentioned. Because that's the worst thing to do. An ebuild's be

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Arthur D.
Perhaps you should find a distribution more suited to your abilities/expectations. Clearly, Gentoo is not for you. Really? Do you just give up and eat what people tell you to eat? I don't respect such people, really. I prefer to change the things, that I think are not right. Obtruding the defaul

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag 01 Oktober 2009 21:32:56 schrieb forgottenwizard: > However, I'm also wondering why the ebuild doesn't make use of the > EDITOR variable as was mentioned. Because that's the worst thing to do. An ebuild's behaviour should not depend on env variables (like it's still the case for th

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Neil Walker
Arthur D. wrote: > James Ausmus, I solved this proble long ago. I just curios, > why it's not solved by portage? So the users should spend their > time diggin in manuals to find why is sudo not working in Gentoo > like it does in LFS or any other distro?.. Is this the Gentoo way > or something? >

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread forgottenwizard
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 05:08:16PM +0100, Stroller wrote: > > On 1 Oct 2009, at 16:40, Stroller wrote: > > ... > > So it seems to me that you're right. It appears like maybe when > > `sudo` detects that it's running `visudo` it does seem to ignore > > $EDITOR. I, too, disagree with this behavi

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread James Ausmus
2009/10/1 Arthur D. > James Ausmus, I solved this proble long ago. I just curios, > why it's not solved by portage? So the users should spend their > time diggin in manuals to find why is sudo not working in Gentoo > like it does in LFS or any other distro?.. Is this the Gentoo way > or something

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:34:15 +0300, Arthur D. wrote: > Man, running "sudo visudo" and just running "visudo" is not the same. True, but both call $EDITOR here. > Be careful. Nano is hardcoded in sudo's ebuild. Yes, as a default when no other editor is specified. That means no $EDITOR variable vi

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:10:19 +0300, Arthur D. wrote: > James Ausmus, I solved this proble long ago. I just curios, So you're just ranting, you don't actually have a problem to solve and your question was rhetorical venting? > why it's not solved by portage? What problem? That the default editor

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Stroller
On 1 Oct 2009, at 19:40, Stroller wrote: On 1 Oct 2009, at 19:07, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag 01 Oktober 2009, Arthur D. wrote: As the access to the bug was denied by the admin please use this link for discussion: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-795069.html wow, you m

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Stroller
On 1 Oct 2009, at 19:07, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Donnerstag 01 Oktober 2009, Arthur D. wrote: As the access to the bug was denied by the admin please use this link for discussion: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-795069.html wow, you must have been VERY obnoxious to have the bug

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 01 Oktober 2009, Arthur D. wrote: > As the access to the bug was denied by the admin please use this link for > discussion: > http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-795069.html > > Thanks. > wow, you must have been VERY obnoxious to have the bug closed for others. First time I see

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Arthur D.
James Ausmus, I solved this proble long ago. I just curios, why it's not solved by portage? So the users should spend their time diggin in manuals to find why is sudo not working in Gentoo like it does in LFS or any other distro?.. Is this the Gentoo way or something? -- Best regards, Spinal

[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} External video card with RCA output?

2009-10-01 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-09-30, Neil Bothwick wrote: > That particular device also does S-Video, but you're never > going to get wonderful quality when using a TV without a VGA > or HDMI connection. S-Video should be a little better (not much). Hotels should provide VGA/DVI/HDMI inputs on TVs and advertise the

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread James Ausmus
2009/10/1 Arthur D. > I'm using a 4 years old system, and if I change that line, log out and >> in again, it changes the env variable and everything works (that means >> the behavior is probably caused by your configuration). If visudo is >> still using that configuration, maybe that's because s

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Arthur D.
As the access to the bug was denied by the admin please use this link for discussion: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-795069.html Thanks. -- Best regards, Spinal

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Arthur D.
I'm using a 4 years old system, and if I change that line, log out and in again, it changes the env variable and everything works (that means the behavior is probably caused by your configuration). If visudo is still using that configuration, maybe that's because some configuration file has preced

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Daniel da Veiga
2009/10/1 Arthur D. : >>> I gonna bet you added "magic" line to your sudoers previously or make >>> some other >>> crutches to make it work: >>> Defaults env_keep="EDITOR" >> >> You lost that bet. > > Proof? > >> Section 8.c of the Gentoo Handbook (called System Information) advises >> you to edit

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Arthur D.
I gonna bet you added "magic" line to your sudoers previously or make some other crutches to make it work: Defaults env_keep="EDITOR" You lost that bet. Proof? Section 8.c of the Gentoo Handbook (called System Information) advises you to edit /etc/rc.conf to change your preferences. Daniel, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:21:07 +0300, Arthur D. wrote: > I gonna bet you added "magic" line to your sudoers previously or make > some other > crutches to make it work: > Defaults env_keep="EDITOR" You lost that bet. -- Neil Bothwick Is it possible to be totally partial? signature.asc Descript

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Daniel da Veiga
2009/10/1 Arthur D. : > Hello, happy Gentoo users! I'm new on this distro, so I'm sorry if you > consider to be stupid what I gonna say. > > Many of us prefer editors other than nano. Some of us believe in ideas of > freedom and choice which Gentoo provides us with. But... > > There're ones who pre

[gentoo-user] Re: Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Doug O'Neal
On 10/01/2009 11:58 AM, Arthur D. wrote: > Neil Bothwick писал(а) в своём письме Thu, 01 Oct > 2009 18:45:20 +0300: > >>> My quests leaded me to the ebuild >>> of sudo. And I saw this nice shiny line there: >>> --with-editor=/bin/nano >> >>> P.S. Having defaults is not bad. But they should not ov

[gentoo-user] Re: Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Doug O'Neal
On 10/01/2009 11:34 AM, Arthur D. wrote: > Thanks for your replies, guys. > >> 2. Change the default editor on your system by putting something in >> /etc/env.d: >> >> apollo ~ # cat /etc/env.d/99editor >> EDITOR="vim" >> >> --Mike > === > spi...@sup

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Arthur D.
1. emerge -C nano 2. emerge vim 3. export EDITOR=`which vim` 4. Or do eselect editor -> env-update ; or edit /etc/rc.conf -> env-update 5. Reemerge sudo if you wish (it will not change anything) 6. Relogin 7. Run "sudo visudo" You get this: visudo: no editor found (editor path = /bin/nano) No I

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:58:43 +0300, Arthur D. wrote: > 1. emerge -C nano > 2. emerge vim > 3. export EDITOR=`which vim` > 4. Or do eselect editor -> env-update ; or edit /etc/rc.conf -> > env-update 5. Reemerge sudo if you wish (it will not change anything) > 6. Relogin > 7. Run "sudo visudo" > Yo

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Dan Cowsill
Arthur D. wrote: > The first option works fine, but ... how much time should the user > spend to get things just work as expected? Plainly put, Gentoo isn't an easy-to-use distro. If it were, I don't think I would be using it, paradoxically enough. If spending a little time learning about and pl

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Stroller
On 1 Oct 2009, at 16:40, Stroller wrote: ... So it seems to me that you're right. It appears like maybe when `sudo` detects that it's running `visudo` it does seem to ignore $EDITOR. I, too, disagree with this behaviour. IMO the ebuild ("-- with-editor=/bin/nano") take the editor from "/etc

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Stroller
On 1 Oct 2009, at 15:44, Arthur D. wrote: ... I just installed VIM with emerge, and removed nano because I considered it to be absolutely unnecessary in my system. Why I need nano? I am a VIM fan. And here the troubles begin... Run "sudo visudo" and you get this: ~ $ sudo visudo visudo

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Arthur D.
Neil Bothwick писал(а) в своём письме Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:45:20 +0300: My quests leaded me to the ebuild of sudo. And I saw this nice shiny line there: --with-editor=/bin/nano P.S. Having defaults is not bad. But they should not override our favourites. What you you think that line in th

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using sys-devel/gcc-4.4.1

2009-10-01 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Dale wrote: > Hi, > > I'm thinking about upgrading to gcc-4.4 and was wondering if anyone here > is using it and if they are having any problems with it. I'm using a > desktop system with KDE and OOo as the biggest packages. No servers or > anything to worry ab

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] PGP User Groups?

2009-10-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:03:23 -0400, Dan Cowsill wrote: > Unfortunately, like many of you, I am not an international spy and don't > have much to protect with this awesome encryption technology. My main concern is verification. If it ain't signed by me, you can't assume it is from me. > This > le

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:44:41 +0300, Arthur D. wrote: > My quests leaded me to the ebuild > of sudo. And I saw this nice shiny line there: > --with-editor=/bin/nano > P.S. Having defaults is not bad. But they should not override our > favourites. What you you think that line in the ebuild does? I

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] PGP User Groups?

2009-10-01 Thread Eric Martin
Dan Cowsill wrote: > Hello list, > > I've noticed that with linux geekery comes the pursuit of PGP-based > email privacy. A great many frequent posters to this illustrious list > boast PGP keypairs and frequently sign their correspondences. Some of > you even have photo ID's of yourselves in your

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Arthur D.
Thanks for your replies, guys. 2. Change the default editor on your system by putting something in /etc/env.d: apollo ~ # cat /etc/env.d/99editor EDITOR="vim" --Mike === spi...@supervisor ~ $ cat /etc/env.d/99editor # Configuration file for es

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Albert Hopkins wrote: > [very clear, consice, polite answer to the OP's "question"] > > And he's right, as a "meta" distribution, "it just works" is generally > *not* regarded as a Gentoo principle to shoot for. And oddly, in fact, it usually it's still a goal usu

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Neil Walker
Arthur D. wrote: > Many of us prefer editors other than nano. Me included. I don't have nano installed here - I use LE. > The package SUDO. It is one of the most mandatory packages in distro. Hmm. It's not even installed on any of my 15 systems - no use for it whatsoever. The default editor is

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 17:44 +0300, Arthur D. wrote: [long post about something relatively trivial] sudoedit (and others) use the EDITOR (or VISUAL or whatever) environment variable to chose an editor. Gentoo defaults to nano. It's easy to change it (most experienced Linux users do). # emerge -C

[gentoo-user] [OT] PGP User Groups?

2009-10-01 Thread Dan Cowsill
Hello list, I've noticed that with linux geekery comes the pursuit of PGP-based email privacy. A great many frequent posters to this illustrious list boast PGP keypairs and frequently sign their correspondences. Some of you even have photo ID's of yourselves in your public keys! (Hello Neil!)

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Dan Cowsill
Arthur D. wrote: > Hello, happy Gentoo users! I'm new on this distro, so I'm sorry if you > consider to be stupid what I gonna say. > > Many of us prefer editors other than nano. Some of us believe in ideas of > freedom and choice which Gentoo provides us with. But... > > There're ones who prefer

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 01 Oktober 2009, Arthur D. wrote: > Hello, happy Gentoo users! I'm new on this distro, so I'm sorry if you > consider to be stupid what I gonna say. > > Many of us prefer editors other than nano. Some of us believe in ideas of > freedom and choice which Gentoo provides us with. But..

Re: [gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 10/1/2009 10:44 AM, Arthur D. wrote: I just installed VIM with emerge, and removed nano because I considered it to be absolutely unnecessary in my system. Why I need nano? I am a VIM fan. And here the troubles begin... Run "sudo visudo" and you get this: ~ $ sudo visudo visudo: no editor foun

[gentoo-user] Am I wrong?..

2009-10-01 Thread Arthur D.
Hello, happy Gentoo users! I'm new on this distro, so I'm sorry if you consider to be stupid what I gonna say. Many of us prefer editors other than nano. Some of us believe in ideas of freedom and choice which Gentoo provides us with. But... There're ones who prefer primitive hardcoding over giv

Re: [gentoo-user] Different desktop wallpapers in KDE4?

2009-10-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 30 September 2009 20:20:01 Roy Wright wrote: > Here's what I did which seems to work nicely: > > Created an auto hide panel centered on top edge. > > Added the activity bar widget to this panel. > > Create Activity (cashew, Zoom Out, alt-D alt-A, then select setup > (wrench icon) (you

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using sys-devel/gcc-4.4.1

2009-10-01 Thread Stroller
On 1 Oct 2009, at 06:38, Dale wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: ... gcc-porting helped tho Thanks. What exactly is gcc-porting? Well, duh! It's where you enlarge & polish the compiler's intake valves, to improve airflow. Stroller.

[gentoo-user] Re: fcrontab - what am I missing?

2009-10-01 Thread Doug Hunley
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 05:55, Helmut Jarausch > Strangely not, > ls -ld  /var/spool/fcron > gives > drwsrws---  2 stunnel fcron  4096 Oct  1 11:31 /var/spool/fcron > > So, who is 'stunnel'. The corr. entry in /etc/passwd is > stunnel:x:104:1007:added by portage for stunnel:/dev/null:/sbin/nologin

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 bugs update

2009-10-01 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:27:47 +0900, daid kahl wrote: >> >> Change it in Systemsettings. I use konsole-4.3.1 with kde-3.5.10 and >> after the change it opens firefox for me. >> >> > What all do you unmask for this? I'm still kicking around 3.5.10, but I > wouldn't mind some updated apps, and some o

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gnome 2.26 stable?

2009-10-01 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Daniel Troeder schrieb: > On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 06:48 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> Daniel Troeder schrieb: >> Same here. After booting no sound ... in PA all looks good, after some >> searching I find alsamixer mutes things ... sigh ... but as long as >> there aren't more problems I can li

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone using sys-devel/gcc-4.4.1

2009-10-01 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Dale schrieb: > Yup, it took about three seconds but didn't emerge anything so I guess I > am good to go. Yeppie!! Thats normal, because it never emerges anything. It only changes references by patching files. Greetings Sebastian

[gentoo-user] Re: device eth0 does not exist

2009-10-01 Thread walt
On 10/01/2009 01:49 AM, Cinder wrote: Can you show the results of `modprobe -v e1000` please? Code: # modprobe -v e1000 FATAL: Module e1000 not found. Try running 'depmod'.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone using sys-devel/gcc-4.4.1

2009-10-01 Thread Dale
Sebastian Beßler wrote: > Dale schrieb: > >> Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> >>> On 10/01/2009 11:45 AM, Dale wrote: >>> Thanks for the info. It's compiling right now. Boy it is big. >>> That's what she said. >>> >>> (Sorry, couldn't resist :P) >>> >>> >>> >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: fcrontab - what am I missing?

2009-10-01 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 30 Sep, Doug Hunley wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:40, Helmut Jarausch > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I've been using fcron for quite some time, but >> now it behaves strange. >> I have version 3.0.4-r2 installed. > > If you mask that version and downgrade, does the issue persist? Do you > have a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone using sys-devel/gcc-4.4.1

2009-10-01 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Dale schrieb: > Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> On 10/01/2009 11:45 AM, Dale wrote: >>> Thanks for the info. It's compiling right now. Boy it is big. >> That's what she said. >> >> (Sorry, couldn't resist :P) >> >> >> > > I was trying to make Nikos into a girl for a second there. LOL I need > to g

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone using sys-devel/gcc-4.4.1

2009-10-01 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 10/01/2009 11:45 AM, Dale wrote: >> Thanks for the info. It's compiling right now. Boy it is big. > > That's what she said. > > (Sorry, couldn't resist :P) > > > I was trying to make Nikos into a girl for a second there. LOL I need to get some sleep. It's compil

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gnome 2.26 stable?

2009-10-01 Thread Daniel Troeder
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 06:48 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Daniel Troeder schrieb: > Same here. After booting no sound ... in PA all looks good, after some > searching I find alsamixer mutes things ... sigh ... but as long as > there aren't more problems I can live with it. You can set things

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone using sys-devel/gcc-4.4.1

2009-10-01 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/01/2009 11:45 AM, Dale wrote: Thanks for the info. It's compiling right now. Boy it is big. That's what she said. (Sorry, couldn't resist :P)

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: device eth0 does not exist

2009-10-01 Thread Cinder
>Can you show the results of `modprobe -v e1000` please? Code: # modprobe -v e1000 FATAL: Module e1000 not found. ... but ... Code: # find /lib/modules/2.6.30-gentoo-r6/ -type f -iname '*.o' -or -iname '*.ko' | grep e1000 /lib/modules/2.6.30-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/net/e1000/e1000.ko Nothing

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone using sys-devel/gcc-4.4.1

2009-10-01 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:15:11 -0500, Dale wrote: > > >> It does look pretty good. Hopefully this will be better than the last >> upgrade. Seamonkey went goofy and I couldn't compile a kernel at all. >> I don't know what happened. >> >> Giving this some more thought befor

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone using sys-devel/gcc-4.4.1

2009-10-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:15:11 -0500, Dale wrote: > It does look pretty good. Hopefully this will be better than the last > upgrade. Seamonkey went goofy and I couldn't compile a kernel at all. > I don't know what happened. > > Giving this some more thought before jumping in tho. ;-) 4.4 is s

Re: [gentoo-user] device eth0 does not exist

2009-10-01 Thread Steffen Loos
Stroller schrieb: Didn't the e1000 module change name in a recent kernel release? I carried this notion, too. I thought it was mentioned on the list but a quick search didn't find it. It was in thread: "NIC not detected after Kernel upgrade" at 15th Feb 2009. There are two modules in the

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4 bugs update

2009-10-01 Thread Sebastian Beßler
Am 01.10.2009 08:27, schrieb daid kahl: > What all do you unmask for this? I'm still kicking around 3.5.10, but I > wouldn't mind some updated apps, and some of the new Konsole features sound > useful (which is ironic, since they were laid out as to why there aren't > differences from 3.5.10...)