On Donnerstag 01 Oktober 2009, Arthur D. wrote: > Hello, happy Gentoo users! I'm new on this distro, so I'm sorry if you > consider to be stupid what I gonna say. > > Many of us prefer editors other than nano. Some of us believe in ideas of > freedom and choice which Gentoo provides us with. But... > > There're ones who prefer primitive hardcoding over giving the enduser to > choose. There're defaults set by someone, that you should respect. > Because... Just because he wants so. Because you are nothing. Just another > ungrateful user... > An example? > > The package SUDO. It is one of the most mandatory packages in distro. > But it totally ignores the enduser's favor in editing. > It just hardcodes what the ebuild's maintainer decided. Once and forever. > > Do you want to remove nano from your system? DON'T DO THAT! Or you gonna > get some issues, you shouldn't get, if the things work as expected. > > I just installed VIM with emerge, and removed nano because I considered > it to be absolutely unnecessary in my system. Why I need nano? I am a VIM > fan. And here the troubles begin... > Run "sudo visudo" and you get this: > ~ $ sudo visudo > visudo: no editor found (editor path = /bin/nano) > ~ $ env | grep -i edit > EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim > > What a surprise! Hm... Possibly I did something wrong when setting my > system, that terminates me with this error?.. > > So I was forced to spend my time analysing what is wrong with the package > and how to fix that. Because I remember it was working as expected in my > previous LFS (linuxfromscratch) system. My quests leaded me to the ebuild > of sudo. And I saw this nice shiny line there: > --with-editor=/bin/nano > > Stop. I don't use nano. I even don't have it! But the ebuild doesn't check > if nano is installed. No care. It was just like said to me: > "Hey, you are just a stupid moron! Who removes default editor? He-he..." > > I asked the ebuild maintainer to fix this behaviour. And what did he say? > "You should read manual page of sudo in order to make it work as expected. > To make it respect your preferences. And I don't care what editor you > prefer. Nano is Gentoo default editor!!! You understand? Stop boring me! > I will not change anything! Ha-ha..." > > Actually it was said in other words but the idea is same. > Looks like the principle "it just works" is not for Gentoo users. > > If you don't agree with ignoring of your preferences, > please vote for this bug: > http://bugs.gentoo.org/votes.cgi?action=show_user&bug_id=286017#vote_286017 > > P.S. Having defaults is not bad. But they should not override our > favourites. > > Thank you. > > -- > Best regards, Spinal >
and isn't the real upstream hard coded editor vim? so.. how about... you know... don't get your panties in a knot about nothing?
