[gentoo-dev] gentoo-x86-portage on the rsync mirrors

2006-05-13 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! I'm the admin of rsync5.de.gentoo.org. For quite a while now (over a year, maybe even two or more), the gentoo-x86-portage rsync module has been deemed deprecated. Yet still the manual for setting up an rsync server says that it should be configured. I see about 1700 connections on my serve

[gentoo-dev] Carl - Carl Analyzes Rsync Logfiles v0.4

2006-06-03 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! I've cleaned up the source of my logfile analyser (and delinted it alot). Also, it's now a Python distutils compatible distribution and I've even included an Ebuild for gentoo systems (in the unlikely case any of you has use for that ;)). It's available here: http://www.schwarzvogel.de/softw

Re: [gentoo-dev] GWN Comments

2006-06-19 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, Caleb Tennis wrote: > I'd like to propose some form of ability to post user comments > to GWN stories. I suppose a full blown CMS system would work, > but for the ease of time I'm suggesting that perhaps we open up > a GWN section on the forums and post the text of the G

Re: [gentoo-dev] GWN Comments

2006-06-20 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Mon, 19 Jun 2006, George Prowse wrote: > >> I'd like to propose some form of ability to post user comments > >> to GWN stories. I suppose a full blown CMS system would work, > >> but for the ease of time I'm suggesting that perhaps we open up > >> a GWN section on the forums and post the

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages up for grabs

2008-05-31 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sat, 31 May 2008, Philip Webb wrote: > 080531 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > many of these are low maintence ... > > i'd forgotten i was even listed under them > > as i havent seen a bug report in a long time. > > some i added (well probably too many) on a lark, > > so if they do end up being

Re: [gentoo-dev] Linux 2.6.28 stable plans

2008-12-25 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Thu, 25 Dec 2008, Daniel Drake wrote: > 2.6.28 is out, happy holidays.. I'd be happier if well, see below. > The usual things: > > 1. Bugs in non-kernel packages in the stable tree that appear due to this > upgrade are tracked at bug #252467 > > 2. Tentative stable date is January 1

[gentoo-dev]

2009-01-27 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi, glibc 2.9 uses a different way to implement getaddrinfo() which triggers a race condition in most (if not all) Netfilter firewalls that use connection tracking. glibc does nothing wrong per se, it just triggers the condition. (technical details here: http://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev&m=1233044

Re: [gentoo-dev] Race condition in Netfilter triggered by glibc 2.9

2009-01-27 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! (fixed the subject) On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Peter Alfredsen wrote: > [Mike: This looks like your field of expertise] > On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:47:50 +0100 > Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > > glibc 2.9 uses a different way to implement getaddrinfo() which > > triggers a ra

Re: [gentoo-dev] Race condition in Netfilter triggered by glibc 2.9

2009-01-29 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On the wire between the client and the firewall, this happens: > > > > a packet 1 is sent > > b packet 2 is sent > > c answer 1 is received > > d answer 2 is received > > > > Sometimes d doesn't happen because b is lost in the firewall > > along

Re: [gentoo-dev] Race condition in Netfilter triggered by glibc 2.9

2009-01-29 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > The most visible effect (and the way we found out about it > > first) is a 5s hang on ssh connects. > > this is why i turn off dns lookup in all my sshd_config's > (well, not because of this bug, but because DNS lookup on ssh > can cause annoyin

Re: [gentoo-dev] Race condition in Netfilter triggered by glibc 2.9

2009-02-02 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Tobias Klausmann wrote: > I tried understanding what glibc 2.9 does regarding dns lookups, > but since it involves a rather complex (and probably quite > clever) queueing mechanism, I'm not quite sure I wouldn't break > more than I fix in doing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Race condition in Netfilter triggered by glibc 2.9

2009-02-09 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Mon, 02 Feb 2009, Tobias Klausmann wrote: > If it works, I'll test drive it for a while and report back. I've been running a patched glibc-2.9_p20081201-r1 for a week now. Nothing broke and I've been unable to trigger the lost packet syndrome by using getaddrinfo(). I

Re: [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives

2009-02-25 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! My preference, most wanted to least wanted: - inside the ebuild If it's not too much pain. Yes, that is a very subjective metric and it's what a large amount of flames has been about. - in the filename, but not as a tail eg: foo-2.3.4-r2+9.build yes, alternate separators might be b

Re: [gentoo-dev] stupid ebuild question

2009-04-21 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Greg KH wrote: > So, I do the following: > src_install() { > dodir /lib/firmware > cp -R "${S}/*" "${D}lib/firmware/" || die "Install failed!" > } > > but that fails badly: > >>> Install linux-firmware-20090421 into > /var/t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Retiring

2009-05-05 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Tue, 05 May 2009, Markos Chandras wrote: > Arch teams, according to their project pages, are in a good shape. Major > arches have enough people ( assuming that the project pages are up2date ) If I keel over and armin76 is stuck in work/'versity, the alpha dev count is 0. Not exactly good

Re: [gentoo-dev] Project summaries - Alpha Arch Team

2009-05-06 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! So where are we at with alpha currently? Xorg-1.5 As some of you know, xorg-1.5 abandoned the "classic" way of interfacing with PCI and AGP cards in favor of using libpciaccess. That, in turn expects support from the kernel in the form of /sys/devicesresourceN files. Unfortuna

Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-16 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Fri, 15 May 2009, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > eval `grep '^EAPI=' ebuildfile | head -n 1` > > > > will set EAPI in the current scope to EAPI in the ebuild, without > > sourcing it, unless the issue with something like this would be its > > use of grep and head, but these are both in the sy

Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-16 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sat, 16 May 2009, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 16 May 2009 11:27:10 +0200 > Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > Change the spec, then. > > If we change the spec, we can't do anything with the change until we're > absolutely sure that everyone's updated bo

Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-16 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sat, 16 May 2009, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 16 May 2009 17:32:24 +0200 > Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > On Sat, 16 May 2009, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Sat, 16 May 2009 11:27:10 +0200 > > > Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > > > Change the

Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-16 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sat, 16 May 2009, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 16 May 2009 17:43:32 +0200 > Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > > That doesn't let us do version format changes. > > > > Or are we talking about the *ebuild* versions? I see that as > > different matt

Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-16 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sat, 16 May 2009, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > > Yes, those. The current rules include some pointless arbitrary > > > restrictions that are only there for historical reasons and that > > > mean people have to mess with convoluted M

Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-16 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sat, 16 May 2009, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > So we're not talking about .ebuild-2 for EAPI=2, .ebuild-3 for > > EAPI=3 etc? That would just be silly and it was the first idea I > > got when I saw the proposal. > > Yes, yes we are. That's just one change, from a static string to a > patter

Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-16 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sat, 16 May 2009, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 16 May 2009 18:31:38 +0200 > Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > On Sat, 16 May 2009, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > > So we're not talking about .ebuild-2 for EAPI=2, .ebuild-3 for > > > > EAPI=3 etc

Re: [gentoo-dev] The fallacies of GLEP55

2009-05-16 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sat, 16 May 2009, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > > Why? What's the big deal with .ebuild-? or .eapi-?.eb instead > > > of .ebuild? > > > > One that you illustrate yourself: what aboud .eapi-11.eb or > > .ebuild-11? >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Baselayout 2 stabilisation todo

2009-05-23 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Fri, 22 May 2009, Dawid Węgliński wrote: > Haven't tested it yet on my box, but i'd like to know if openrc > handles 801.2Q support. Near as I can tell, it does (some lines shortened for brevity): [r...@sareth ~]# eix -Ic openrc [I] sys-apps/openrc (0.4.3...@05/15/2009): OpenRC manages t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Old eclasses - candidates for removal?

2009-06-04 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Thu, 04 Jun 2009, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Do we want to remove any of these? Have I missed other candidates? I think nobody uses the ccc.eclass (Compaq C Compiler) anymore. Also see bug 258153. There are very, very vague signs that CCC support for Alpha might come back, but not in the nea

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eselect news item for X11 on alphas

2009-06-30 Thread Tobias Klausmann
ys via users. Title: xorg-x11-7.4 and xorg-server-1.5 kernel support Author: Tobias Klausmann Content-Type: text/plain Posted: Revision: 1 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: x11-base/xorg-x11 Display-If-Installed: x11-base/xorg-server Display-If-Profile: default-linux/alpha Display-If-Pr

Re: [gentoo-dev] New eselect news item for X11 on alphas

2009-06-30 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! Thanks ulm and fauli, here is a new version: Title: xorg-x11-7.4 and xorg-server-1.5 kernel support Author: Tobias Klausmann Content-Type: text/plain Posted: Revision: 2 News-Item-Format: 1.0 Display-If-Installed: x11-base/xorg-server Display-If-Profile: default-linux/alpha Display-If

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New eselect news item for X11 on alphas

2009-06-30 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Tobias Klausmann : > > > Revision: 2 > > This is only needed for an in-repo revision...so please leave it at 1. > > > but but no fixes are available yet, please see > > But but Imagine a trembl

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Changing default serial-console definition in inittab

2012-04-29 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Fri, 27 Apr 2012, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > The current definition sets the console at 9600 baud, using vt100 > emulation; I think most of us who configure it, do so at 115200 baud, > and some prefer vt-utf8 over vt100 (the two are partially compatible as > far as I can tell). Also note

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Portage Git migration - clean cut or git-cvsserver

2012-05-30 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Wed, 30 May 2012, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > > Yeah... this is why I was asking about access to infra to test the > > conversion; so far, I haven't had any replies, though. > > A mock conversion would probably help with creating > proc

[gentoo-dev] Kernel compiles and you

2012-07-04 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! Recently, I have again bumped into the question whether one should compile the kernel as root. One of the things that puzzles me is why almost every HowTo, blog post and book recommends building as non-root -- yet basically no distribution /helps/ the user with doing that. I've discussed thi

Re: [gentoo-dev] Kernel compiles and you

2012-07-04 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Wed, 04 Jul 2012, Michał Górny wrote: > There's a very simple yet custom solution I'm using. Shortly saying: > checkout the kernel git to /usr/src/linux and chown to your user. As > far as it goes, it's superior to having kernel sources installed by > ebuilds. > > I just have to remember

Re: [gentoo-dev] Kernel compiles and you

2012-07-05 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Wed, 04 Jul 2012, Greg KH wrote: > > Recently, I have again bumped into the question whether one > > should compile the kernel as root. One of the things that puzzles > > me is why almost every HowTo, blog post and book recommends > > building as non-root -- yet basically no distribution /

Re: [gentoo-dev] Kernel compiles and you

2012-07-05 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Thu, 05 Jul 2012, Dan Douglas wrote: > On Wednesday, July 04, 2012 10:30:20 PM Peter Stuge wrote: > > You may recall there was a kernel build system bug which ran > > -rf / which would be bad if you built as root. > > So there isn't anything during the build that requires writing > outsid

Re: [gentoo-dev] inittab with SIGPWR support

2012-07-13 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Thu, 12 Jul 2012, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > > DEP> They _are_ deprecated after all. > > > > Where is that documented? > > man inittab You seem to have a different version than I do: $ equery f sysvinit|xargs grep -i deprecated 2>/dev/null $ equery f sysvinit|xargs bzgrep -i deprecated

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Any official position from Gentoo about systemd, mdev and udev-static ?

2012-08-29 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, Duncan wrote: > So in practice, just what are the sorts of times, relative to stand-alone- > build udev, we're talking about? In all this discussion, what, hundreds > of posts by now?, I've not seen ANYONE actually ask, let alone answer, > THAT. But it would seem to b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Any official position from Gentoo about systemd, mdev and udev-static ?

2012-08-29 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Wed, 29 Aug 2012, William Hubbs wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 01:57:48PM +0200, Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > As a first crude datapoint, I compared the build times > > (configure+make) of udev-171-r6 and -188 on our dev Alpha. This > > is a machine that's o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Any official position from Gentoo about systemd, mdev and udev-static ?

2012-08-30 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Thu, 30 Aug 2012, Duncan wrote: > Now, for worst-case comparison, on the same machine, what's the > respective times for a full systemd build? (I'm not saying actually > merge it, just configure/compile, plus see the next paragraph.) I think my first set of numbers illustrates that: ju

Re: [gentoo-dev] ship app-arch/pbzip2 instead of app-arch/bzip2

2012-09-27 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Wed, 26 Sep 2012, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: > A different question is whether in the cases where parallel bzip2 makes > sense, is it really the best solution? xz is outperforming bzip2's > compression ratio for large files (for an informal comparison, see bug > 434350). And xz is

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH] Profile-enforced big-endian USE flag

2017-07-01 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Thu, 29 Jun 2017, James Le Cuirot wrote: > > No. Alpha is little endian. > > Wikipedia says it is bi. tc-native() reports alpha* as big so I guess > that's the only variant we support? Then again, this page says it is > usually little. Is tc-native() wrong? > > https://kernelnewbies.org/

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC pre-GLEP] Gentoo Git Workflow

2017-07-25 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Tue, 25 Jul 2017, Michał Górny wrote: > The summary line is included in the short logs (git log -- > oneline, gitweb, GitHub, mail subject) and therefore should > provide a short yet accurate description of the change. The summary line > starts with a logical unit name, followed by a colon

[gentoo-dev] Package up for grabs: net-ftp/atftp

2017-10-30 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! I haven't used atftp in a *long* time and upstream is either dead or has entered a time capsule on SF.net. Open bugs: 513486 net-ftp/atftp - increase BKLSIZE 635786 net-ftp/atftp-0.7-r5 : neither HOMEPAGE nor originalSRC_URI available any more The former is ancient (and I only now realize

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal for changes for the next EAPI version

2016-05-17 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Tue, 17 May 2016, Kent Fredric wrote: > On 17 May 2016 at 19:37, Pallav Agarwal wrote: > > For normal users we wouldn't. But currently, arch-testers need to make a > > judgement call on what to test when a stable-req bug is filed. Tests run in > > src_test are provided by upstream, and d

[gentoo-dev] Can ATs add missing test deps?

2016-06-06 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! It happens every now and then that during ATing, I find that USE=test should pull in extra deps. This usually is an easy and not exactly controversial fix. What's the hive mind's opinion on letting ATs add such deps if: - Only one level deep, but multiple first-level deps are ok - The deps

Re: Facilitating user contributed ebuilds (Was: [gentoo-dev] The future of the Sunrise project)

2016-06-14 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Tue, 14 Jun 2016, Rich Freeman wrote: > 1. Developers wouldn't have access to all the ebuilds in the curated > repositories. They would only have access to the ones they contribute > to. > 1a. You could accept a contributor into a small project and not have > to give them access to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] OT Who runs Gentoo was -> RFC: Userkit.eclass

2016-12-03 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sat, 03 Dec 2016, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > Google has hired a few core developers as has Gaikai. Both seem > to be good, though not sure Google is giving back as much given > their financial benefit. Gaikai isn't selling an OS, but Google > is based on Gentoo... That last bit is no

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: moving OpenRC to a meson-based build

2017-02-01 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Mon, 30 Jan 2017, William Hubbs wrote: > I have been looking at the meson build system [1] [2], and I like what I > see. > > I have opened an issue on OpenRC's github wrt migrating OpenRC to the > meson build system [3]. > > As I said on the bug, the downside is the addition of py3 and n

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo and Root CAs

2012-12-31 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hey, Ryan Sleevi, who's working on Chromium and is familiar with other project's Root Cert programs has written an article on how he perceives assorted distributions handle Root CAs: https://plus.google.com/u/0/105761279104103278252/posts/eVdB6X3NpPg """ [...] Debian: From [5]. According to READ

Re: [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-16 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Tue, 15 Jan 2013, Greg KH wrote: > So anyone who relies on network names right now to be deterministic, and > you have more than one network device in your system, should seriously > reconsider how they are naming their devices, as it will not work if you > only rely on the kernel. > > Yo

Re: [gentoo-dev] call for testers: udev predictable network interface names

2013-01-17 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Thu, 17 Jan 2013, Peter Stuge wrote: > Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > It has been rather nifty that if I walk up to a random machine > > with exactly one NIC (that I've been asked to examine/fix), I > > _know_ that there will be eth0 and only that. > > On

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sun, 24 Mar 2013, Duncan wrote: > Samuli Suominen posted on Sun, 24 Mar 2013 09:32:22 +0200 as excerpted: > > > imho we should contact the sysrescuecd developers and suggest more close > > cooperation, such that it could be called official install media in > > gentoo-terms > > I've wonde

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sun, 24 Mar 2013, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 24/03/13 21:17, Ben Kohler wrote: > > I strongly believe it's important that we have an official install > > medium [that] the official installation handbook is based [on]. > I agree.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Markos Chandras wrote: > On 25 March 2013 09:30, Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > I'll say it again: if we don't make install media anymore and > > tell people to use SRCD instead, we will lose installation > > support for at least alpha, ppc/

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > > SysRescueCD does not exist for the fringe architectures. > Then make it. That way we will have a reliable install medium for all > architectures, an as an added bonus we will have helped a different > free software project become more useful

Re: [gentoo-dev] New install isos needed

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Mon, 25 Mar 2013, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > I don't think it seems easy. But nor does devoting time to a CD > that will only serve the purpose of installing Gentoo on these > architectures. Additionally, that strikes me as seriously > pointless if contributing to SysRescCd is a real alte

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: libpng16 won't be able to show some broken icons libpng15 was still able to

2013-04-22 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! Since we probably will have to fix the files coming out of tarballs until the various upstreams have fixed them, I propose running a PNG fixer during or after the install phase. Since having pngcrush as dep for everything is not exactly lightweight, I hacked together a PNG file fixer in pure(

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: libpng16 won't be able to show some broken icons libpng15 was still able to

2013-04-23 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Tue, 23 Apr 2013, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > I appericiate the work done by Tobias utmost too but I have to agree > > this is not something I want to see running automatically, or even > > from within ebuilds. > > +1 > > In Tobias's list, I count some 80 packages that need fixing. That's

Re: [gentoo-dev] FYI: libpng16 won't be able to show some broken icons libpng15 was still able to

2013-04-24 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Tue, 23 Apr 2013, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 01:19:05PM +0200, Tobias Klausmann wrote > > The second problem, however, is trickier. We can rely on people > > noticing the error messages/broken packages and hope they file > > bugs. The other option

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC

2013-04-26 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Thu, 25 Apr 2013, Steven J. Long wrote: > Thanks, that sounds reasonable: one minor nitpick, though. Could you not > call it 'stdnet'? Since from all the other discussion it appears like this > is not going away soon for the vast majority of users, but simply being > maintained as another

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC

2013-04-26 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Wed, 24 Apr 2013, William Hubbs wrote: > The primary disadvantages of newnet are that services can't depend on a > single network interface, and it is not possible to stop/start a single > interface. Which is why it doesn;t work for my not-exactly-complex, not-exactly-simple setup (NFS an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: oldnet scripts splitting out from OpenRC

2013-04-26 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Fri, 26 Apr 2013, Tobias Klausmann wrote: > I'm still not quite sure what newnet does that oldnet doesn't, or > why somebody felt it was necessary to make a new package (and no, > let's not discuss that here). Whatever it is, ideally, it would > reflected

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Hangouts

2013-06-24 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Mon, 24 Jun 2013, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: > I've worked on a VC system most of last year and I now go > through regular conferences... it's barely okay from a work > point of view, it takes lots of time to organize so you don't > want to do that every single day for sure. It depends how

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: s/disk space/drive space

2013-07-30 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Tue, 30 Jul 2013, Duncan wrote: > OTOH, the "free space" or "space available" suggestions I saw elsewhere > do make a lot of sense and avoid both the "disc" and "mechanical drive" > implications. It's also closer to the common LANG=C expando of ENOSPC. Whatever the underlying physical t

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: escape sequences in logs

2013-09-03 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! My two cents for viewing-logs-in-vim (which is a use case for me): $ eix ansiesc * app-vim/ansiesc Available versions: (~)12 Homepage:http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=302 Description: vim plugin: ansi escape sequences concealed, but highl

Re: [gentoo-dev] heads up: glibc-2.20 will require >=linux-2.6.32

2014-08-06 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sun, 03 Aug 2014, Mike Frysinger wrote: > upstream glibc has dropped support for older Linux kernels. your choices: > - upgrade your kernel > - switch to a different C library > - stick with glibc-2.19 for a while Also note that 2.6.32 is the oldest longterm kernel. If you use somethi

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo git workflows and the stabilization/keywording process

2014-09-18 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! Since we're causing at least mild upheaval process-wise, I thought I'd bring up a topic that will be exacerbated by the git migration if it's not really addressed. AIUI, we try to avoid merge conflicts, unless the merge is a meaningful integration of divergent processes. However, one aspect

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo git workflows and the stabilization/keywording process

2014-09-19 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Thu, 18 Sep 2014, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>>>>> On Thu, 18 Sep 2014, Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > > >> However, one aspect of how ebuilds are written these days will > >> cause a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo git workflows and the stabilization/keywording process

2014-09-19 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Fri, 19 Sep 2014, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 19:39:08 +0200 > Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > > AIUI, we try to avoid merge conflicts, unless the merge is a > > meaningful integration of divergent processes. > > > > However, one aspect of h

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo git workflows and the stabilization/keywording process

2014-09-21 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Fri, 19 Sep 2014, hasufell wrote: > Tobias Klausmann: > >>> If this should really turn out to be a problem, then we could also: > >>> > >>> 4) Replace git's default merge driver by our own one that is better > >>> suited for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sunrise contemplations

2006-08-01 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! I'm not a dev (just someone donating 10GB of traffic per day from his private server to Gentoo), but that's exactly why I think I need to chime in. On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, foser wrote: > 1. Stale ebuilds are often stale for a reason, there is > obviously not enough interest to add and maintain

Re: [gentoo-dev] Sunrise contemplations

2006-08-01 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Tue, 01 Aug 2006, Jeroen Roovers wrote: > On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 10:21:53 +0200 > > Idea: should it be more obvious in emerge --info and ebuild > > failure that an overlay is involved? If it's obvious enough, > > I don't see a problem. Also, a command that lists all > > installed packages that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resurrecting "Project Dolphin"

2006-10-14 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sat, 14 Oct 2006, Benjamin Judas wrote: > it's been a while since I stepped back as a Gentoo-developer (about 1 1/4 > years) and in that time I did exactly zero. Private life (and unfortunately > stress) kept sucking up my time and interest in helping out in development > work. However,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Resurrecting "Project Dolphin"

2006-10-16 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sun, 15 Oct 2006, kashani wrote: > >As some modern server machines doesn't ship with a cd/dvd-rom drive per > >default also providing an usb-stick image (fitting on 128MB sticks?) > >makes sense and would help a lot :) > > In these days of $40 USD one gig USB drives I see the CD as the si

Re: [gentoo-dev] SPF at g.o

2006-10-26 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Thu, 26 Oct 2006, Alin Nastac wrote: > Facts: > a) current SPF TXT record of our domain is "v=spf1 mx ptr ?all" > b) I use my own MTA to send my @g.o messages. > c) Probably I am not the only one who does that d) I've just spent nearly an hour to debug an error that resulted f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-07 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Tue, 07 Nov 2006, Georgi Georgiev wrote: > Quoting Lance Albertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >Personally, after skimming through this thread, I'd say leave it as is > >and stick with Kurt's decision. Our developers clearly have nothing > >better to do than rant on about something as trivial a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for November

2006-11-08 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Wed, 08 Nov 2006, Alin Nastac wrote: > Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: > > On Wednesday 08 November 2006 21:01, Kurt Lieber wrote: > > > >> So, in other words, spammers aren't abusing anything related to SPF. > >> They're sending mail using forged return-paths and SPF is highlighting

[gentoo-dev] What's it about, anyway?

2007-06-05 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! First, a few words on where I'm coming from, so you can maybe see why I see things the way I do. I've been using Gentoo since some time before 1.2. I've always liked its flexibility, its excellent docs and that one could always find out how things work. I'm also a Gentoo rsync mirror admin. T

Re: [gentoo-dev] What's it about, anyway?

2007-06-06 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! As I feel it's necessary to clarify: I've *not* made the decision to quite or anything, I didn't wnat to get that notion across in my mail. My point was that it had gotten so bad that I seriously started considering it - which is bad enough and made me think. If that has made half a person

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI-1 (or >1, perhaps) Proposal: AND Dependencies

2007-06-15 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Fri, 15 Jun 2007, Kent Fredric wrote: > On 6/15/07, John R. Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I occasionally run across a package version dependency issue that cannot > > be elegantly solved by the current dependency syntax. Every time I've > > come across this, it's boiled down to

Re: [gentoo-dev] how to handle sensitive files when generating binary packages

2007-06-21 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Wed, 20 Jun 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:31:32 -0700 > Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 22:01 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > The specific underlying question being, what are the use cases for > > > binary packages? > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Feedback req: Confirm/thank on bug fix or is that unwanted bug spam?

2007-07-09 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Mon, 09 Jul 2007, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Sat, 2007-07-07 at 12:56 +1200, Kent Fredric wrote: > > I /believe/ when you close a bug a notification is sent anyway > > irregardless of whether or not you add a comment, but i might be wrong > > here. > > > > I myself think dev's should b

Re: [gentoo-dev] x86 toolchain changes heads up

2007-07-18 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Mike Frysinger wrote: > historically, gcc on x86 has always defaulted to i386. some people noticed > recently that glibc-2.6 fails to build in this situation as they were only > setting -mtune via CFLAGS, not -march. i'll be tweaking gcc so that it will > default -ma

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! [... baselayout-2 is on the horizon ...] Is there a common bug to report snags to? I've hit one: /etc/init.d/net.eth0 used to be a symlink to net.lo. After installing, it was gone (I figure it went with baselayout-1). Luckily, I have direct console access, otherwise the machine would have be

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Adding /etc/udev/rules.d/ to CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK

2007-08-31 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Friday 31 August 2007, Marius Mauch wrote: >> Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Matthias Schwarzott kirjoitti: On Freitag, 31. August 2007, Matthias Schwarzott wrote: > What do you think about adding /etc/udev/rules.d/ to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: use flags -> use options

2007-10-07 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sun, 07 Oct 2007, Christian Faulhammer wrote: > "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I imagine there are a lot more cases where the simple on/off system > > we have now is suboptimal. I could be wrong of course. Please comment. > > This key=value systems sounds interesting

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: USE flag transition: tetex and latex

2007-11-06 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Tue, 06 Nov 2007, Christian Faulhammer wrote: > > tetex-alike distribution. So, imho, in that case a kpathsea useflag > > would make more sense; but I doubt such a useflag name will speak by > > itself. > > Yes, we should introduce tex, latex and kpathsea USE flags. Anyone? As long as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: USE flag transition: tetex and latex

2007-11-06 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Tue, 06 Nov 2007, Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Tobias Klausmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Tue, 06 Nov 2007, Christian Faulhammer wrote: > > > > tetex-alike distribution. So, imho, in that case a kpathsea > > > > useflag would make more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Wanted: Stats collection (not submission!) testimonials

2009-07-12 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sun, 12 Jul 2009, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Here are precise commands you need to run: > > # git clone git://git.goodpoint.de/smolt-gentoo.git > # cd smolt-gentoo > # git checkout -b gentoo origin/gentoo > # cd client/distros > # python gentoo.py |& less > > Again, no data is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Wanted: Stats collection (not submission!) testimonials

2009-07-12 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sun, 12 Jul 2009, Robert Buchholz wrote: > On Sunday 12 July 2009, Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > Interestingly, my cross-compile alpha setup (created using > > crossdev) is noticed as a "secret package" - I presume that is on > > purpose? > > That

Re: [gentoo-dev] Wanted: Stats collection (not submission!) testimonials

2009-07-12 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sun, 12 Jul 2009, Sebastian Pipping wrote: > Tobias Klausmann wrote: > > /home/klausman/tmp/smolt-gentoo/client/distros/gentoo/globaluseflags.py:22: > > DeprecationWarning: the sets module is deprecated > > I'm looking for advice how to best handle this. >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New eselect news item for X11 on alphas

2009-07-16 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Wed, 15 Jul 2009, Jeremy Olexa wrote: > > Display-If-Installed: x11-base/xorg-server > > Display-If-Profile: default-linux/alpha > > Display-If-Profile: default/linux/alpha > > The Display-If-Profile field didn't work because I am seeing this news > item on my amd64 host.. A bug has bee

Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of Python 3.1

2009-09-19 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! Aside from the remarks made by others (and speaking as someone who maintains Python software), there is one reason for me to not switch Python 3 to stable yet: lack of compatibility. Software that runs with 3.x will not run with any 2.x version as of today (and I doubt there will ever be a 2.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: USE=qa-test

2009-10-07 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Tue, 06 Oct 2009, Ryan Hill wrote: > [... separate testing flag/feature for > complicated/long/somehwat broken test suites ...] > [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/287722 I agree. However, some of the cases aren't quite clear-cut. Take, for example fftw. Its test suite takes about half an hour o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Init systems portage category

2009-10-13 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! Here's another chance to be reminded that Gentoo is about choice: how about a config file that comes with a pre-set list of packages that are important (if they're installed), for example e2fsprogs, the init system, stuff like that. But the user can add to this list (cryptsetup if it's needed

Re: [gentoo-dev] New ebuild metadata to mark how robust the package is?

2009-10-17 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sat, 17 Oct 2009, Rémi Cardona wrote: > Now we (gentoo devs) are finally starting to add news items for > bigger updates (gnome, X, java, etc) and that's a good thing. > But we definitely cannot and should not use news items for > minor upgrades. > > elog is much better suited for such up

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-04 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Wed, 04 Nov 2009, Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Ben de Groot : > > What about ppc64? They are MONTHS behind on stabilization, > > even for security bugs (see bug 281821 for example). The Qt team > > feels this is no longer acceptable. We propose that any arch that > > can't keep up will be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Improve policy of stabilizations

2009-11-07 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Thu, 05 Nov 2009, Petteri Räty wrote: > In the past when smaller arches were not that active we used to > mark Java packages stable after testing by at least one arch > team. The probability to find arch specific issues in something > like Java is not so high so I think arrangements like t

Re: [gentoo-dev] URGENT: exotic arches need Qt 4.5.3 stabilization

2009-11-09 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Mon, 09 Nov 2009, Ben de Groot wrote: > We especially request ppc64 to be marked as an experimental arch, as it > is the worst one lagging in stabilization. See bug 281821 for a poignant > example, a 3 months open security bug. As a side note, don't hesitate to poke me or armin76 if you h

Re: [gentoo-dev] adding a modification timestamp to the installed pkgs database (vdb)

2010-01-17 Thread Tobias Klausmann
Hi! On Sun, 17 Jan 2010, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > 1) portage/pkgcore support the PMS defined vdb2 while paludis doesn't > > 2) portage/pkgcore are invoked modifying the livefs; vdb1, vdb2 is > > updated. > > 3) paludis is invoked.  vdb1 is updated, vdb2 is not > > 4) portage and pkgcore now can

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