On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 08:24:27PM -0500, Nathan L. Adams wrote:
> I'm also commenting on the part that *wrongly* states "It is not
> reasonable to expect all users to have an MTA, *web browser*, email
> client, cron daemon or text processing suite available on their system.
> In particular, this m
On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 12:58:14AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Lightweight
> It is not reasonable to expect all users to have an MTA, web browser,
> email
> client, cron daemon or text processing suite available on their system.
>
> Multiple delivery method support
> Some users
Additional issue/question...
On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 12:58:14AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> 6. Portage filters the news item and, if it is relevant, installs it in a
>special location to be read by a news item reader. Messages are also
>displayed to inform the user that news is availab
On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 10:18:14PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > ``Display-If-Installed:``
> > ?? ?? A dependency atom or simple package name (for example,
> > ?? ?? `` > ?? ?? package specified installed, the news item should be displayed.
> >
> > ``Display-If-Keyword:``
> > ?? ?? A keyword [#gl
On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 05:45:35PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> | > News items may be signed using GPG. If this is done, a detached
> | > signature should be used.
> |
> | I'd argue for must be, personally. A bogus news item claiming to be
> | from portage devs, telling users to change their
On Fri, Nov 18, 2005 at 01:28:02AM +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten? wrote:
> On Wednesday 16 November 2005 20:16, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > you asking or telling ? ?didnt you learn anything in elementary school ?
> Is "rhetorical question" a new concept for you?
Maybe I'm daft, but this OT cruft _
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 09:16:06AM -0700, Lares Moreau wrote:
> Is there a possibility to have each 'type' of staff have there own
> subdomain. ie. @testers.g.o for at/ht
> @docs.g.o for document persons
> @infra.g.o for infrastucture
> etc...
>
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 05:06:15PM +, Kurt Lieber wrote:
> For instance, the way GLEP 41 suggests doing r/o cvs is not going to work.
> It suggests using a single account and placing an SSH key for each arch
> tester in that account's ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file.
text in question
"Get read-onl
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 07:14:03PM +, Kurt Lieber wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 08:03:55PM +0100 or thereabouts, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
> > Isn't this an issue that also exists for the Gentoo developers in general?
>
> Not as much since we can track things like last cvs commit, last login to
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 03:20:57PM -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> Danny van Dyk wrote:
>
> > Please have a look at the council's meeting log. They said:
> > a) the changes had been minor and exactly what the changes they wanted
> > in in the first meeting.
>
> Minor? What you're asking for will
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 10:03:58PM +, Kurt Lieber wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 01:51:15PM -0600 or thereabouts, Brian Harring wrote:
> > Stop pointing at one interpretation of it that sucks, when the glep
> > _does_ leave it open to you how to implement it. It's a wa
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 03:27:52PM -0700, Tres Melton wrote:
> staff.gentoo.org forum staff
> amd64-at.gentoo.org Arch testers for the amd64 platform
> contributer.gentoo.orgPeople that donate $$$ to Gentoo
> retired.gentoo.orgA thanks for helping
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 10:47:37PM +, Kurt Lieber wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 04:30:53PM -0600 or thereabouts, Brian Harring wrote:
> > Infra doesn't even do retirement beyond when _devrel_ asks them to. If
> > that process is slow, ask for help and someone will
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 04:46:51PM -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> Brian Harring wrote:
> > It's a crazy notion, but y'all could've commented in the *TWO* months
> > that this glep has been percolating, "yo, what do you want from an
> > infra standpoint?
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 03:06:41PM -0800, Corey Shields wrote:
> On Saturday 19 November 2005 02:19 pm, Brian Harring wrote:
> > > Minor? What you're asking for will cause a lot of administrative
> > > nightmare for infra to manage those subdomain addresse
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 11:04:44PM +, Kurt Lieber wrote:
> > The problem is in detection- an infra issue that could be solved by
> > either allowing normal devrel people to run the detection scripts
> > themselves (rather then asking infra to do so)
>
> First I've heard of this request. Has
On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 06:05:18PM -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> And yes, we probably could/should have said something
> about lark earlier, but didn't catch that before hand.
Shit happens (lark). The appearance/concerns of cvs (specifically the
"this won't fly if it's single key") is what I'm
Hola list,
Damian Florczyk has joined the Alt project to help with the FBSD port,
and NetBSD port he's been working on externally. He's 22. lives in
Wroclaw (Breslau) PL, and is in his third year of CS.
It goes without saying that now would be the time to unleash a few
"BSD is dead" jokes (m
All-
Jeroen Roovers, mentored by gmsoft, is joining up to
help the HPPA crew. In his words,
I have lived in the Nederlands all my life and still intend to change
that. I am married and I have two children (now aged 5 and nearly 4).
I enjoy music, reading and toying with all the computer syst
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 11:36:01PM -0600, Dale wrote:
> R Hill wrote:
> Getting a sync past 50% with slowing to a crawl
> would be nice. Plenty of people complaining about that.
>
> Don't beat me to much OK. Be gentle.
Really need to release a portage that contains
http://dev.gentoo.org/~ferrin
Hola all.
Please welcome Marien Zwart, aka marienz to the crew. He's joining up
as a python monkey, working on twisted (2.x stable ebuilds anyone?
^.^), portage 3 hacking, and pretty much anything python wise.
Finally, he's been helping out in #gentoo for quite some time.
His words-
From Groni
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 01:15:52PM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> OK. I've been looking at some of these issues we've been having, and
> I've been thinking of moving enewuser, egetent, and enewgroup to their
> own eclass. This will resolve some issues with things in system, or
> otherwise early
On Mon, Dec 05, 2005 at 06:39:45PM +0100, Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
> Allowing toucan:~brix/public_html/ to be accessed under either of the
> http://dev.gentoo.org/~brix/ and http://people.gentoo.org/brix/ URLs?
*cough*
http://www.gentoo.org/~brix
No clue if that's a hold over from older days, b
4am, pardon typos...
On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 03:56:30AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:34:05 -0500 Andrew Muraco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | 2. What choices/options are on the table for this feature?
>
> The big controversy seems to be over whether repositories carry
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 03:48:05AM +0100, Luca Barbato wrote:
> >Just one remark: What about making the syntax a bit more familiar to C++
> >users:
> >
> >~ DEPENDS="gentoo-foo::foo-bar/baz-2.1"
> >
> >Comments?
> >
>
> what about
>
> DEPENDS="gentoo-foo/foo-bar/baz-2.1"
No, screws over >1 depth
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 09:21:45PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:16:04 -0800 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> | > Well, that depends... If you have sys-apps/foo installed from the
> | > gentoo-x86 repository, and the breakmygentoo repositor
Pardon bluntness; don't mean offense, just specifically picking the
hell out of this proposal to make a point (lucky you) :)
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 03:17:44AM -0500, Andrew Muraco wrote:
> Attached is a draft of a glep for formalizing multiple-repository support
I appreciate trying to chip in,
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:54:06PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:48:45 -0800 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | I wish you'd reconsider, because I was looking forward to multiple
> | repository support.
>
> Well, if Portage ever gets multiple repository support, the
On Sat, Dec 17, 2005 at 11:25:58PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:15:48 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | True stand alone repository capabilities aren't required/bound to
> | glep42, all that's required out of glep42 is tha
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 12:14:30AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:33:18 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:54:06PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> | > Well, if Portage ever gets multiple repository support, then
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 12:24:48AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:14:15 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | What remaining straw men are there for ignoring the portage
> | developers requests?
>
> Asking you to specify how multipl
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 01:07:27AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:51:05 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | Transitioning from single news.unread to N is going to break clients
> | that expect a single.
>
> Yup.
>
> | As
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 01:08:31AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:01:59 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | Do you need to know how every bit of a car works to drive it? No.
>
> No, but I do need to know whether it has manual or
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 04:15:45AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Here we go again... Changes:
>
> * We're now supporting overlays, multiple repositories and magic flying
> chickens. To do this, we're shoving a whole load of new requirements
> onto Portage. Said requirements are documented under
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 06:23:55AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:50:47 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | Drop the magic-chicken crap (especially in light of your comments
> | about 'professional' news inline in the glep).
>
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 12:18:16PM +0200, Marius Mauch wrote:
> Brian Harring wrote:
> >On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 06:23:55AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> >
> >>On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:50:47 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>| You haven't state
On Sun, Dec 18, 2005 at 04:52:23PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:27:32 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | To head off the "don't make features that are easily screwed up",
> | this isn't one of them- this is expecting
On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 01:45:04PM -0500, solar wrote:
> > So right now I'll go ahead and add the pycrypto code to portage, but
> > will not yet add the dep to any ebuild or change anything metadata.xml
> > or ChangeLog related (according to Jason 2.0.54 is still away one or
> > two weeks anyway).
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 10:30:09PM +0100, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> On Friday 23 December 2005 21:45, Spider (DmD Lj) wrote:
> > Erm.. No, I don't think he is. We've been asking / waiting for the
> > [use] syntax to appear since before you joined the project. It's been on
> > "the list" for so long
On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 12:40:35PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> On Saturday 24 December 2005 05:45, Spider (DmD Lj) wrote:
> > On Sat, 2005-12-24 at 03:37 +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > > On Saturday 24 December 2005 03:23, Paul de Vrieze wrote:
> > > > On Friday 23 December 2005 19:12, Ciaran McCr
On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 05:33:06PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:56:37 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | It's really pretty simple- get off your butt and chip in if you want
> | it, else you're on _our_ timeline (eg, we impl
License in question...
http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=35862&action=view
On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 06:11:53PM -0800, Bret Towe wrote:
> earily today i updated the ebuilds for mac and xmms-mac,
> for those that dont know their applications for monkey's audio (.ape files),
> and got them sub
On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 07:17:05PM -0800, Bret Towe wrote:
> On 12/24/05, Carsten Lohrke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This isn't politics, but copyright infringement on top of a ridiculous
> > license
> > (when you want to see it as one) we had a short discussion¹ about several
> > months ago.
>
On Sat, Dec 24, 2005 at 07:22:50PM -0800, Bret Towe wrote:
> > > i can understand putting proper warning in the ebuild if the dev
> > > thinks that its worth the user really noting the issues surrounding
> > > it, not forcing their ideals onto the user
> > > if i wanted that i would run debian
> >
Hola all.
Just sending a notice/reminder that ebuilds should not be using
$BUILDDIR directly- especially since vapier just commited a rename of
that var.
~harring
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On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 02:51:26AM -0500, Michael Sterrett -Mr. Bones.- wrote:
> Like in here?
>
> app-doc/halibut/halibut-0.9.ebuild: BUILDDIR="${S}/build" \
> net-dns/maradns/maradns-1.0.27.ebuild:BUILDDIR=${S}/build \
> net-dns/maradns/maradns-1.0.32.ebuild:
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 12:46:49AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> | > The existing syntax is just as extensible. Up the EABI revision, and
> | > start adding new syntax as needed.
> |
> | EAPI has nothing to do with the consistency of the syntax. Getting it
> | once right, is what you usually cal
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 12:59:34AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:45:00 +0100 Stefan Schweizer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | That will increase the sync time for all of our users - can we please
> | keep this info out of the sync-tree?
>
> Learn to use the rsync exclude
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 01:03:49AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:57:07 -0800 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | Not saying it's a great idea, but EAPI exists to provide immediate
> | transition to incompatible changes instead of the usua
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 08:12:03PM -0500, Dan Meltzer wrote:
> On 12/26/05, Lares Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 00:59 +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > > On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:45:00 +0100 Stefan Schweizer
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > | That will increase the
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 09:09:31PM +0100, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> On Saturday 24 December 2005 02:04, Brian Harring wrote:
> > dev-lang/python[tcltk]
> > ^^^ need that atom resolved with use flag tcltk enabled
>
> I think that's exactly what someone told me months
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 02:31:02AM +0100, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 December 2005 01:46, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > You solve this either by SLOTting bar and making each bar SLOT use a
> > SLOT dep upon KDE, or by using USE flags and [use]:slot deps.
>
> It's not a that uncommon case a
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 03:01:13AM +0100, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 December 2005 02:29, Brian Harring wrote:
> > So... basically, your concern is with the resolver, not use/slot deps
> > syntax.
>
> I did not say that this would have anything to do with the syn
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 03:07:52AM +0100, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 December 2005 02:23, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > Nooo! That's exactly the point I was making. Carsten is assuming that
> > by using [slot:bar] syntax, no backwards incompatibility will be
> > introduced by adding a new [
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 03:32:04AM +0100, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 December 2005 03:11, Brian Harring wrote:
> > Either way, still not totally following your complaint, thus an actual
> > example would help (easiest to assume I'm a moron, and start at that
>
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 03:36:00AM +0100, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 December 2005 03:11, Brian Harring wrote:
> > Never said anything about 2.1 + resolver enhancements (no clue where
> > that one came from). Merely commenting on your raised issues about
> > use
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 03:54:38AM +0100, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 December 2005 03:40, Brian Harring wrote:
> > The version of digikam being merged requires slot=3.5- it should be
> > depending on libk* slot=3.5, also, no?
>
> No! It (and also its dependencies)
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 11:28:17PM -0500, Chandler Carruth wrote:
> It occurs to me that this could be (to an extent) accomplished by having
> a few more "specialized" subprofiles for x86: base, desktop, gnome, and kde.
>
> base - as the name implies, a _basic_ starting point... very similar to
>
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 12:10:04AM -0500, Chandler Carruth wrote:
> Brian Harring wrote:
>
> >On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 11:28:17PM -0500, Chandler Carruth wrote:
> >>3) there is _no_ functionality added by any of this, only
> >>"user-friendliness" after a fas
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 02:08:25AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 December 2005 02:01, R Hill wrote:
> > AFAIK most licenses need to be included with the distribution of the
> > source, not installed on the system after compilation. But I could be
> > wrong too.
>
> anyone who insta
On Sun, Jan 01, 2006 at 10:48:18PM +0100, Grobian wrote:
> On 01-01-2006 21:35:34 +0100, Francesco Riosa wrote with possible deletions:
> > 1) bzip2 them in some way.
> 4) compress Changelog entries where possible
Anyone gathered transfer stats for rsync without --whole-file?
compression won't pla
On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 10:05:52PM -0800, Corey Shields wrote:
> Where is the centralized vision that everyone is working together here that
> people not directly related to each project will buy in to and therefore do
> what they can to see it succeed?
We've had centralized visions for a long w
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 10:00:08AM -0800, Matthew Marlowe wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The following are just my opinions/summaries:
>
> 1) It appears that the most dissatisfied devs are those
> who have been proponents of the "enterprise" aspect
> of gentoo. When they say that not much has been
> acco
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 03:11:38PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Nerry there now... Changes:
>
> * Due to overwhelming demand (it's the thing in this GLEP that has
> generated least contention!), spaces are not allowed in repository
> names.
+1 on this revision, although I demand a pony
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 11:52:22PM -0500, Andrew Muraco wrote:
> noticed something that doesn't make any sense:
>
> Andrew Muraco wrote:
>
> >- the existing portage code would consider +arch as a subset of arch,
> >the reason both keywords will exist is to maintain compatibility with
> >older v
On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 11:42:36PM -0500, Andrew Muraco wrote:
> Anyways, I would personally like to see if this can stir some interest.
> I would be willing to help test and help make this GLEP a reality,
> however I can not implement this myself as I lack python skills, but I
> do want to help
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 09:27:23AM -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 02:36 -0700, Duncan wrote:
> >
> >>OTOH, it's entirely possible a Gentoo /based/ enterprise distribution may
> >>emerge at some point. IMO, however, there's enough conflict with wh
On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 10:05:49AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 09:00 +, Chris Bainbridge wrote:
> > On 06/01/06, Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Probably better to iron out what y'all actually need and what th
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 01:15:22AM +0100, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> On Sunday 01 January 2006 06:30, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> > Keep in mind that every resubmission to the council for review must
> > first be sent to the gentoo-dev mailing list 7 days (minimum) before
> > being submitted as an agenda
On Sat, Jan 07, 2006 at 01:18:20PM +0100, Jan Kundrát wrote:
> Duncan wrote:
> > Because that code will be implemented in portage, and the portage dev
> > likely to implement it said it was a superfluous reference. =8^)
> >
> > Still, I'd prefer it referenced just for definition's sake, but when t
Yo.
Shouldn't be an issue unless you're doing something crazy, but the
DISTDIR var exported to ebuilds will now point to an intermediate
directory; all files stated via SRC_URI will be symlinks pointing back
to the actual file in DISTDIR.
Why? Well prior to this modification, it was possible
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 02:40:47PM +0100, Carsten Lohrke wrote:
> On Sunday 08 January 2006 01:35, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> > I agree that some cleaning is needed (and some of my packages are
> > desperate for it!), but I'm totally opposed to this idea. I think the
> > idea of shutting up shop for
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 10:55:50AM -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> A few rough ideas that just popped in my
> head is either packing all of these versions into one tarball (not even
> sure if thats feasible)
Ugly, binpkgs are bzip2ed tarballs + xpak at the end of the bzip2
stream, jamming multipl
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 06:07:48PM +, Renat Lumpau wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 06:59:40PM +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Petten? wrote:
> > GDP might be the place where to put them, but as they are mainly
> > developer-oriented, they might be better accessed directly by devs (at
> > least
> >
On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 11:30:16PM +, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-01-08 at 12:54 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote:
> > > We could start a public wiki displaying all herds and projects. It would
> > > be great to add some low level docs, herds/project goals, ideas and so.
> > > Even the use
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 05:28:04PM +0100, Andrea Barisani wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 05:21:42PM +0100, Jakub Moc wrote:
> >
> > 9.1.2006, 17:12:31, Andrea Barisani wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 11:08:38AM -0500, solar wrote:
> >
> > >>
> > >> Do you think the PDEPEND of the ca-
Sending this to the ml, tom already has heard the reasons but throwing
them out for others to comment on...
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 04:47:57PM +, Tom Martin wrote:
> > I realize this doesn't address the *rest* of what you said, though...
> These little 'howtos' are potentially very short,
Crap.
Guess it's time to rename the portage rewrite branch (bugger, we were
here first :P), especially since they're stating they'll have a
saviour package manager...
Think it's time to use my preferred name, bcportage- bastard child
of portage ;)
~harring
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On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 10:38:30AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 00:03 -0700, Duncan wrote:
> > Remember, portage already has a decent amount of signed content
> > verification builtin, and is getting more. Just because it's not
> > currently used, as the debate on stren
On Tue, Jan 17, 2006 at 02:17:50PM +0100, Paweł Madej wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Today i've noticed that common user do not have /sbin and /usr/sbin dirs
> in their PATH but they can start all the tasks from that directories for
> example on server machine someone could make /sbin/shutdown and turn the
>
Hola.
Email's pretty simple- from where I'm sitting, there doesn't seem to
be any actual progress on trustees issues.
Current issues with no progress-
1) Copyright assignment. Check the nfp archives, last comment is sep
26th, seems to be totally dead.
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.
On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 08:05:42PM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Say we have an autotooled package that provides a library. Say also
> that this package provides several well written test programs that are
> listed in Makefile.am under check_PROGRAMS. When emake is run, the
> library will be buil
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 07:28:05PM +0100, Danny van Dyk wrote:
> Donnie Berkholz schrieb:
> | Marius Mauch wrote:
> |>I meant the option is redundant if it just triggers a feature setting,
> |>as it's the same as `FEATURES=debug-build emerge foo`
> |
> | OK, where's my package.features and packages
On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 08:06:12PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Tuesday 24 January 2006 01:44, Brian Harring wrote:
> > Might I suggest this one just get shelved for a while?
>
> everything that gets shelved portage way stays that way for *quite* a while
If people don't
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 08:27:22PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> On Wednesday 25 January 2006 18:10, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > > DEPEND="x11-base/xorg-x11" # wrong
> > > DEPEND="virtual/x11"# wrong
> > > DEPEND="|| ( x11? ( virtual/x11 ) )"
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 09:18:28PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> On Wednesday 25 January 2006 20:46, Brian Harring wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 08:27:22PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 25 January 2006 18:10, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > > > Jason
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 06:06:02PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> On Wednesday 25 January 2006 17:43, Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> > Jason Stubbs wrote:
> > > I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "broken" in the first paragraph nor
> > > how a check can help with unmaintained (=no commits, no?) package
Hola all-
We've got a new portage dev; Alec Warner, aka antarus- aside from
doc work, he'll be doing repoman work and the usual random bug
squashing.
His words-
I work at The Division of Engineering Computing Services at Michigan
State University. I serve primarily as an undergraduate web
de
Hola all-
Well looky here, we've got another new portage dev to report- Zac
Medico (zmedico). Areas of focus thus far are general stable work,
and work on the rewrite (you can thank him and marienz for the test
framework work).
Additionally, Zac is the maintainer of two external projects-
htt
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 04:15:49PM +0100, Stephen Bennett wrote:
> If noone has any strong reasonable objections, I'd like to add a
> Paludis profile to the tree. This would use Paludis as the default
> provider for virtual/portage (which is a less than ideal name, but that
> is another discussion
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 05:47:42PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 16 May 2006 09:16:18 -0700 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | 1) changes to the eapi=0 ebuild standard; renaming of vars
> | (PORTAGE_* -> PALUDIS_* namely)
>
> What eapi=0 s
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 06:28:41PM +0100, Stephen Bennett wrote:
> Brian Harring wrote:
> >The gain of the profile is that you can do a few new tricks for folks
> >doing boostrapping experiments- why not just introduce an ebuild that
> >sets up the new profile in a temp
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 07:07:05PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Tue, 16 May 2006 10:33:56 -0700 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | > What eapi=0 standard? We emulate Portage internals where it's found
> | > to be necessary, and don't otherwise.
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 03:56:38PM -0700, Brian Harring wrote:
> If your parent parsing implementation handled N parents on a single
> line (rather then parent per line as you do now), portage would
> explode rather then silently use the left most. Your implementation
> isn&
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:11:34PM +0100, Stephen Bennett wrote:
> On Wed, 17 May 2006 12:14:37 +0200
> Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Using the normal profiles would also establish paludis as a possible
> > replacement of portage as primary package manager. Refraining from
> > d
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 02:57:05PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 17 May 2006 12:04:33 +0200 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | - Paludis must be able to handle a standard portage /var/db/pkg tree.
> | This means that paludis can read it, and write it. Enabling mixing
> | port
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 04:26:28PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 17 May 2006 17:11:04 +0200 Paul de Vrieze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | Let me clarify my statement. I don't care about candy spinners.
> | Paludis (or any other package manager that is to be integrated into
> | gentoo) s
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 05:32:38PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 17 May 2006 11:23:19 +0200 Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | We really should figure that stuff out before we start integrating an
> | externally written package manager we have no influence on whatsoever
>
>
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 07:44:16PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 17 May 2006 11:13:09 -0700 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | > Paludis can read a Portage-generated VDB. Portage can't read a
> | > Paludis-generated VDB, because Paludis has
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 08:50:32PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 17 May 2006 12:06:09 -0700 Brian Harring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | Clarify on virtuals please. Unless you're mangling the data for
> | sym/dir, that's an unmerge time decisio
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