Re: SVN move

2008-07-26 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Can you provide one example? Just curious > > While it was incubating, Wicket did a few non-ASF releases on their > old project site, to minimize disruption for their existing users > while they were repackagin

added empire-db to reporting schedule

2008-07-28 Thread Martijn Dashorst
I've added empire-db to the reporting schedule (http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule) I took the liberty to add empire-db to the "March, June, September, December" schema, even though our last 3-month report will be in October. The number of podlings in "March, June, September, Decem

Re: [VOTE][POLICY] fix table of contents

2008-07-28 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Roland Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [X] +1 apply the patch Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SVN move

2008-07-28 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, to make this a little more clear, when Wicket performed a few non-ASF > releases on their old project site was their old Subversion repository > shutdown and the ASF Subversion repository exclusively used? Yes. We ar

Re: Click Incubation - Status

2008-07-30 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Andrus Adamchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: >> My personal understanding here is, that Ahmed (and any other >> contributor) contributed that code to a project that is already under >> AL2. So there is no n

Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator

2008-08-03 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 Martijn (who points at jalbum.net as a photo gallery generating Java product, though partly LGPL, partly closed source) On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Roland Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > please vote on accepting project PicaGalley > (originally proposed under the name of Ca

Re: [VOTE] Accept project PicaGalley into the Incubator

2008-08-05 Thread Martijn Dashorst
IMO there is no need to revote on the name change. It is a technicality, and according to me an exit criterium, not an entry criterium. How about calling the project "Snapshot" (or Snapshots)? Apache Snapshot does have a ring to it, though it might be confusing as hell when you're deploying Snapsh

Add voting guide to incubator docs?

2008-08-24 Thread Martijn Dashorst
There is always a lot of confusion on whose votes are binding in our podlings. The PPMC guide has a small, easy to overlook sentence which states the obviously not so obvious: "And note that binding votes are those cast by Incubator PMC members." Any objections to crafting such a document, and who

Re: [VOTE] accept Etch into the Incubator

2008-08-26 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 8:09 PM, Yonik Seeley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since wiki pages can change, the full text of the proposal needs to be > in the vote thread. > Here is the text of the proposal: > > == Abstract == > > Etch is a cross-platform, language- and transport-independent > fram

Re: [VOTE] apache-empire-db-2.0.3-incubating and apache-empire-struts2-ext-1.0.3-incubating release

2008-09-03 Thread Martijn Dashorst
I haven't looked closely at the release yet (I'll try to grab an hour tonight). A quick cursory glance through the rat report shows that the headers are now in order. Minor point: - build.xml is in a strange location: in the src directory in the root package. This really is not the Ant/Java way.

Re: [VOTE] apache-empire-db-2.0.3-incubating and apache-empire-struts2-ext-1.0.3-incubating release

2008-09-08 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Thanks Thomas for this dilligent checkup. I agree with your -1. So here's mine: -1 On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Thomas Fischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > P.S. Who is responsible for updating the status page ? Should that be done > by the mentor, or can I as IPMC member also do that ? Accordi

Re: [VOTE] accept Olio into incubation

2008-09-24 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 (binding) (on both accounts: accept olio and add Wicket to the ticket) Martijn On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:01 AM, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +1 (non-binding) > > I've informed the Wicket team about this incubator request and there > is interest in providing a wicket-based impleme

Podlings take notice! Travel Assistance to ApacheCon US 2008 - 3 days to apply!

2008-09-29 Thread Martijn Dashorst
The Travel Assistance Committee is taking in applications for those wanting to attend ApacheCon US 2008 between the 3rd and 7th November 2008 in New Orleans. The Travel Assistance Committee is looking for people who would like to be able to attend ApacheCon US 2008 who need some financial support

Re: Podlings take notice! Travel Assistance to ApacheCon US 2008 - 3 days to apply!

2008-09-29 Thread Martijn Dashorst
acheCon. If you are unable to attend on your own terms, perhaps this initiative will help you come to ApacheCon. Martijn On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The Travel Assistance Committee is taking in applications for those wanting > to atte

Re: On incubating releases

2008-10-02 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Though I'm not in favor of dropping the community requirements for graduation, I must disagree with the following, based on our license: On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:32 AM, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are not yet confident that there will be a community actively > developing that code, s

Re: [Vote] accept Droids into incubation

2008-10-02 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Thorsten Scherler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please vote on accepting Droids into incubation. +1 Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROT

Re: [VOTE] apache-empire-db-2.0.4-incubating and apache-empire-struts2-ext-1.0.4-incubating release, 2nd round

2008-10-03 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:23 AM, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > +1 +1 > though i do think for the next release all those separate licenses in the > top level folder should be merged into the single LICENSE and NOTICE files. And this is where I disagree strongly. Licenses for 3rd party lib

Re: [VOTE] apache-empire-db-2.0.4-incubating and apache-empire-struts2-ext-1.0.4-incubating release, 2nd round

2008-10-06 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 1:27 PM, sebb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wherever the additional license files are placed, they need to be > referenced from the main LICENSE file. I'm not sure where you get this from. This is the first time I hear this requirement. Martijn -- Become a Wicket expert, l

Re: [VOTE] Accepting OpenWebBeans into the Incubator

2008-10-12 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 Martijn -- Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: http://wicketinaction.com Apache Wicket 1.3.4 is released Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a

Re: [VOTE] Accept Pig graduation as a Hadoop subproject

2008-10-18 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Incubator PMC, > > The Pig [1] and Hadoop [2] communities have voted to graduate Pig as a > Hadoop subproject. > > According to [3| the Incubator PMC needs to accept this graduation. > > Please cast your votes

Re: new tool "clutch" assist oversight of all podlings

2008-10-19 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Really cool, useful and in one word: wow. Additional features could be * to scan the svn logs for to see if there's any activity (last week, last month, ever), and by how many different committers * to scan the dev@ list archives to see if there's any activity (last week, last month, ever) * to

Re: [VOTE] Graduate Buildr as TLP

2008-11-06 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 Good luck! Martijn On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Alex Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > The Buildr community is requesting to graduate from the incubator as a > top-level project. We've recently held a > vote

Re: Asking for Feedback: CouchDB Graduation

2008-11-06 Thread Martijn Dashorst
I agree with Paul. CouchDB is ready IMO—it meets all the exit criteria (just having given the talk about graduation at the ASF). Martijn On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Paul Fremantle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I know theres been a push to get projects to graduate, but IMO CouchDB >> would ben

Re: Podling board reports are due November 12

2008-11-07 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Is it possible that empire-db is listed wrong for reporting this month? Martijn On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 4:48 PM, David Crossley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Crossley wrote: >> See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/November2008 >> >> There is one other project that is recently accepted: >> Ope

Re: [VOTE] Graduate CouchDB as TLP (Was: Re: Asking for Feedback: CouchDB Graduation)

2008-11-10 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Can the mentors please update the STATUS file [1]? It is really lacking in dates for completed tasks. Martijn [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/couchdb.html On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Jan Lehnardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Incubator General List, dear IPMC, > > thank you all

Re: Incubator Project Dissolution for NMaven

2008-11-12 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Depends on what "take it out of the incubator" means: - graduation to TLP - graduation to sub project - stop incubation altogether and possibly continue elsewhere Graduation is covered in the graduation guide [1], stopping (aka failing) is not covered in a guide (yet). I assume a formal vote on

Re: [VOTE] Qpid Graduation - for top level

2008-11-13 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Carl Trieloff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is with the support of our mentors and a community vote on our dev list > that Qpid > would like to graduate. In our last graduation vote the incubator PMC felt > that the > Qpid project should increase its diversi

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After some brief discussion here and a vote on the Abdera private > list Why wasn't this done on dev@ (especially the vote)? The Apache Way(tm) suggests that these decisions should be done in public (a quick poll on priva

Re: [VOTE] Abdera Graduation to TLP

2008-11-13 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Garrett Rooney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Why wasn't this done on dev@ (especially the vote)? The Apache Way(tm) >> suggests that these decisions should be done in public (a quick poll >> on private@ is not a problem) > > The discussion included determining the l

Clutch color coding

2008-12-02 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Clutch is an invaluable tool, but with some coloring issues according to me: the current coloring schema is not well suited to alert me, or they alert me at the wrong moment, or don't alert me when things get out of shape. Gold and murky are nice terms, but they translate very badly into web color

Re: Clutch color coding

2008-12-03 Thread Martijn Dashorst
IMO they can remain too close or the same. There is no difference in attention for t<3 or 18 wrote: > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:30 AM, David Crossley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> David Crossley wrote: >> ...I am happy with the result. >> See http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html >> after the next

Abdera graduated, still incubating?

2008-12-04 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Abdera graduated (CONGRATS!). We voted +1 for their graduation, their resolution was put in front of the board and it passed. So why does the clutch status page still consider them incubating? Martijn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [E

Re: Abdera graduated, still incubating?

2008-12-04 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Martijn Dashorst > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Abdera graduated (CONGRATS!). We voted +1 for their graduation, their >> resolution was put in front of the board and it passed. So why does >> the clutch status page still consider them incub

Risk of orphanage (was: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator)

2008-12-23 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Ian Holsman wrote: > * Cassandra is already deployed within Facebook and many other organizations > are actively moving to deploy this in production. Original developers > are and will actively stay involved and hence there is no realistic chance > of it getting o

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-27 Thread Martijn Dashorst
I'd like to see some plan on dealing with the fork/community stuff. We *know* it is a problem, and I'd like to see how this is being addressed in the proposal. In my opinion that is the crux to this proposal. Just going Apache is not going to solve problems. The feather is not a magic wand you can

Re: [VOTE] Accept Cassandra into the Incubator

2008-12-28 Thread Martijn Dashorst
gt; On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Martijn Dashorst > wrote: >> I'd like to see some plan on dealing with the fork/community stuff. We >> *know* it is a problem, and I'd like to see how this is being >> addressed in the proposal. In my opinion that is the crux to th

Re: [PROPOSAL] Pivot

2009-01-06 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Count me in. Martijn On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz > wrote: > >> The proposal looks good to me but IMO needs at least one more mentor, >> preferably two more. > > Totally Agree. Did I hear you volunteering?? ;-) > >

Re: ** MISSING ** January Incubator Reports

2009-01-12 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Put it in svn 2 weeks before your report is due, send message to your private list (or dev if that is your process) telling your PPMC members to look at the report, augment it and ensure it reflects your status. Then a few days before the due date send a reminder that the report is now close to bec

Re: What should be the consequences of missing required Incubator Reports?

2009-01-19 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Provided that we get a Marvin like script for PPMC's to get notified of a pending report, in my opinion: - the first missing report should be dealt with by the Mentors on the podling-dev list (to engage the community), and the podling has to report the next month. - the second consecutive missing r

Re: [Vote] Accept Pivot into incubation.

2009-01-19 Thread Martijn Dashorst
ode. >VMware has agreed to sign a software grant for the codebase; a >signed copy of the agreement was faxed to the ASF on 12/22/2008. > > > External Dependencies > >Pivot is a Java-based toolkit and relies on a JRE for execution. >Pivot's cha

Re: [VOTE] Approve the 2.0.1 release of Apache Click

2009-02-03 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Just a point of order: I think you have just one binding vote (only Incubator PMC members' votes are binding): Andrus Adamchik's vote. You'll need at least 2 more to let the vote pass. Martijn On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Bob Schellink wrote: > Hi all, > > The Click community has approved th

Re: [VOTE] Suspending Projects -- XAP

2009-02-16 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > In August 2008, it was discussed that XAP had been inactive for at least 4 > months. In November 2008, we again saw issues with XAP and discussed > suspension. Having reached, now, February 2009, and still nothing with XAP, > I am rai

Are binding votes necessary for Committer -> PPMC?

2009-02-17 Thread Martijn Dashorst
As far as I know, binding votes are necessary for to The ASF legally binding issues: committers, PMC membership and releases. So when a podling has voted in a Committer, and the Incubator PMC has ack'd the Committer, are binding votes necessary for the podling's decision to make a Committer a membe

Re: Mentor responsibilities (Was ... Rant)

2009-02-20 Thread Martijn Dashorst
However, if that means actively committing, fixing bugs, then that is not what I've signed up for. I don't have a vested interest in the actual code of most if not all podlings. Guiding discussions, ensuring that the right things are done on the correct lists, reports get submitted on time, accoun

New metric to measure how comfortable a podling is in the incubator

2009-03-29 Thread Martijn Dashorst
The number of projects that have graduated during your incubation. Pivot 0 Cassandra 0 ESME 1 Stonehenge 1 OpenWebBeans

Re: New metric to measure how comfortable a podling is in the incubator

2009-03-30 Thread Martijn Dashorst
rote: > Martijn, > What was this??? > Are you talking about number of months in Incubation or what? > > Cheers > Niclas > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Martijn Dashorst > wrote: >> The number of projects that have graduated during your incubation. >> &

Re: New Incubator Proposal: Null - A cloud-aware Web 3.0 Container

2009-04-01 Thread Martijn Dashorst
I have some doubts at a couple of things, based on my presentation at last ApacheCon: - Naming: null is a very popular name. Since wikipedia has the top level google hit already, I suggest NullPointerException which has a top position held by Sun, and which is much easier to be obtained after the

Missing board reports, due today!

2009-04-07 Thread Martijn Dashorst
The following podlings should report today on their status, but have yet to write up their report [1]: Bluesky Cassandra Empire-db Imperius JSPWiki Kato Ki Lucene.Net Olio RCF Stonehenge Tashi Thrift UIMA Please submit your report today! Remember to include: The "incubating since" info The proje

Re: [Vote] Release Apache Pivot 1.1

2009-04-08 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1. Licensing seems to be in order. Distribution layout looks fine. Martijn On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Todd Volkert wrote: > The Pivot community voted on and has approved a proposal to release > Apache Pivot 1.1. Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation > Policy and with the endor

Re: [Vote] Release Apache Pivot 1.1

2009-04-14 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Todd Volkert wrote: >> wtk/lib/plugin.jar : I don' t see this mentioned in notice or license > > This file is included in the JRE, which we list as a system > requirement. We only include it in the source distribution because > it's not in the classpath by default

Re: [Vote] Release Apache Pivot 1.1

2009-04-14 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Todd Volkert wrote: > I know I'm not being singled out; it's just very frustrating to go > through this process on the podling's list, get an OK from both > mentors, then wait a week for the vote on the public list, only to > then be to told to change some stuff an

Re: [Vote] Release Apache Pivot 1.1

2009-04-14 Thread Martijn Dashorst
ot;Looks to me that it is part of the JDK/JRE, > and is Ok as system requirement, even if the license is something else." ( > http://tinyurl.com/cpw8rt).  So what's the final word? > > -T > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Martijn Dashorst < > martijn.dasho...@

Re: [Discuss] pivot-1.1 (WAS: Re: Vote Release Apache Pivot 1.1)

2009-04-14 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Todd Volkert wrote: >>> * Remove plugin.jar from the source distribution since developers that >>> have the JDK installed already have that JAR anyway -- we'll provide >>> instructions in BUILD on how to add it to your classpath. > We'll probably just leave it as

Re: Encouraging TLPs to Game The System [WAS Re: [PROPOSAL] Commons Incubator]

2009-04-17 Thread Martijn Dashorst
We have enough instruments and proof that the incubator works for small projects as well. Ivy is one such project. Martijn On Friday, April 17, 2009, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Torsten Curdt wrote: >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Pivot 1.1 (second try)

2009-04-17 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 publish On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Niclas Hedhman wrote: > On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Todd Volkert wrote: > > [x] +1 Publish > > > Cheers > -- > Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer > http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java > > I  live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er > I  work her

Re: Incubation Questions

2009-04-21 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Scott Merrill wrote: > Our wiki is open to anyone who wants to make an account. The wiki is > the primary point of collaboration for the end-user manual we > distribute with our project. The Incubation guidelines state > >   "In particular, care must be taken to en

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Click graduation

2009-04-24 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > As I said already, the bigger point is valid: the opportunities to expand > the committer/PMC base were missed, and this should be corrected now if > possible. But let's not jump to some strange conclusions from that. The > project *is* mat

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Click graduation

2009-04-24 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:34 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > Hmm.. 3 PMC members was always ok. Did it change recently? But going from 4 committer to 3 during incubation, and not voting in new committers hasn't been ok. Having just 3 PMC members will stifle the project: when one PMC member is on va

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Click graduation

2009-04-24 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > If you have proof otherwise, please share. How about that in those four years, no new committers were admitted to the project? A project with a scope and as successful as Click could easily have attracted 4-8 great committers over the cour

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Click graduation

2009-04-24 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > Then there are different types of contributions. Some warrant a > committership, others show that a given person should not be given SVN write > access under no circumstances. Then there is a pace issue (which I think is > at play here, and

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Click graduation

2009-04-24 Thread Martijn Dashorst
ut me in some box of evil. Please refrain from such actions in the future. Martijn On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 2:57 PM, Andrus Adamchik wrote: > > On Apr 24, 2009, at 3:53 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > >> Being around for 4 years doesn't mean a community is healthy or >>

Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Click graduation

2009-04-24 Thread Martijn Dashorst
/me needs coffee. GAWT Anyway, I'm refraining from commenting anymore. Martijn On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Martijn Dashorst wrote: > Taking this offline. > > I take personal offense to this characterization of my concerns. As an > IPMC member, and Mentor I have en

Re: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-27 Thread Martijn Dashorst
BTW Thanks everyone for the support! On the release note: We are very committed to support our community even when we're undergoing incubation. This would typically mean that we might need to release Wicket versions. As releases marked as incubated will probably raise an eyebrow or two, what are

Re: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-31 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Sorry for this lengthy response, but I got a negative vibe from several reactions to this thread and I feel a need to vent my concerns. First I am a big fan of Apache and the Apache community. I think that the way Apache works is a great example of how a community effort can produce great softwar

Re: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-31 Thread Martijn Dashorst
reason for a release to have the label 'incubating'. It is only a label to identify that the community is not yet mature enough for Apache standards. Martijn On 7/31/06, Upayavira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Martijn Dashorst wrote: > Sorry for this lengthy response, but I got

Re: Re: [PROPOSAL] Incubate Wicket

2006-07-31 Thread Martijn Dashorst
You summarized my thoughts exactly :-) Martijn On 7/31/06, Gwyn Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'll start by saying I'm not deeply involved in the roadmap plans, so pay more attention to the other devs, but this seems a possible position to me, i.e. All source hosted at ASF, lists & web mo

Re: [VOTE] Accept Wicket into the Incubator

2006-08-24 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 (non binding) -- Download Wicket 1.2.1 now! Embed Wicket components in your portals! -- http://wicketframework.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Re: Incubator Lightning Talks at ApacheCon US?

2006-09-06 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Well, that would get you at least some attention... But probably not of the right kind for you I suppose :-) Hmm, this would be much longer than your 3 minute Wicket at JavaOne '05. Think you can manage the extra 2? Martijn On 9/6/06, Eelco Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 9/6/06, Matth

Re: Re: Re: Incubator Lightning Talks at ApacheCon US?

2006-09-06 Thread Martijn Dashorst
BTW, I am sorry I won't be able to attend. Good luck with fitting all the podlings in the 2 hour slot. Martijn On 9/6/06, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, that would get you at least some attention... But probably not of the right kind for you I suppose :-) Hmm, th

Re: [RELEASES] any interest in a source audit tool?

2006-09-14 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Just out of interest, what would this tool specifically check for? In what does it differ from checkstyle, pmd and findbugs? Will it work with Java/C/C++/Python sources? Best regards, Martijn On 9/14/06, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i have a basic tool that i've been runni

NOTICE file contents for podlings

2006-09-25 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 9/25/06, Leo Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -> You're shipping various libraries and stuff which I know include NOTICE files of their own, but those notices are not found or referenced anywhere outside their jars (for example ant.jar has a META-INF/NOTICE.txt). I would say the NOTICE file s

Rat tool, Apache header and different file types

2006-09-28 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Hi, I just ran the tool on the Wicket 1.2.2 distribution, just to see how we stack up and how much we need to change our release. I came up with some questions when I read report that came out of the tool, and would like to see what the policy is on these matters. - the tool flags all HTML docu

Re: RE: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

2006-10-01 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 10/1/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Where in: - The Incubator PMC sets the Mentors, who form the initial PPMC - The PPMC (Mentors) elects additional PPMC members - The PPMC elects Committers you see that requirement? I don't see anything excluding the PPMC from voting in

Re: Re: [VOTE] Policy on Initial Committership

2006-10-01 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Isn't there a rule that the community should be diverse, i.e. not dependent on one company? How doesn't this affect the proposal's initial list of committers/ppmc members? Martijn On 10/1/06, Martin Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/1/06, Mads Toftum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun,

Outside view on incubator policy to initial committer list

2006-10-03 Thread Martijn Dashorst
All, Just to pose an outsider view, being new to the ASF and not to hijack the discussion on the CFX/CeltiXFire, I would like to share my views on the policy of the incubator. From the documents I have read on the policy for entering, being inside and graduating from the incubator there is a l

Re: Re: Problem with commit rights on Celtixfire

2006-10-07 Thread Martijn Dashorst
List of things to pack for ApacheCon: - some eggs - tomato juice - asperine and - vitamine C pills... With all the beer going back and forth, until the full beer dept is paid off, you're bound for some serious hangover. I'm sorry I can't be a witness for this event :) I agree with many that this

Re: REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-12 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 (non binding) This sounds reasonable, and takes clearly into account the incoming community. Martijn On 10/12/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Based upon all of the discussion, I'll pose the following as what I hope is an agreeable solution: -- The Champi

Re: Re: Release Requirements

2006-10-12 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Endre, I think you are missing the community part of ASF. ASF is not a company, nor a big old business. It is a community with a variety of projects, and as such a variety of packaging demands and wishes. I like the idea of a (pretty) low bar entry to Apache where the only criteria are the ones

Re: Re: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-25 Thread Martijn Dashorst
PPMC = Podling project management committee IPMC = Incubator project management committee if I'm not mistaken. Martijn On 10/25/06, Antoine Levy-Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Noel, sorry to ask a basic question. What does PPMC mean ? Is it the sub PMC of a particular incubator p

Re: REMINDER: *** BOARD REPORTS DUE ***

2006-11-05 Thread Martijn Dashorst
In this incubator-info.txt I think it is more clear when one doesn't reference to 'next month' for podlings that need to report each month. Better: New podlings reporting each month: - wicket (october, november, december) - UIMA (october, november, december) - ivy (november?, december, januari)

Maven pom, groupId and version for incubating projects

2006-11-11 Thread Martijn Dashorst
All, Is it a requirement or a 'good thing (tm)' to have the following groupId and version for maven built incubator projects? e.g. take wicket-parent: org.apache.incubator.wicket wicket-parent 1.3-incubating-SNAPSHOT Or is it ok to do: org.apache.wicket wicket-parent 1.3-incubating-SNAPSHOT

Re: Re: Maven pom, groupId and version for incubating projects

2006-11-11 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 11/11/06, Stephen Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/11/06, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > org.apache.incubator.wicket > wicket-parent > 1.3-incubating-SNAPSHOT I think that's a bad thing, as upon the first release after graduation, the groupId

Re: Re: Re: Maven pom, groupId and version for incubating projects

2006-11-11 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 11/11/06, Stephen Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Right. But if they specify org.apache.wicket:wicket:1.0, and some dependency they have has a dependency on org.apache.incubator.wicket:wicket:1.0-incubating, they'll end up with both. If the groupId is the same, they'll just the dependency

JIRA and mentors

2006-12-04 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Recently I encountered something (a task) that I wanted to assign to one of our Wicket mentors. These things can be done through email of course, but email is not very good with tracking. In our case, the mentors are not added to the podlings JIRA tracker. Currently there is no mentor JIRA group

Re: REMINDER January 2007 Board Reports

2007-01-15 Thread Martijn Dashorst
From our wicket-priv mailinglist: On 1/9/07, Upayavira wrote: We submitted Oct/Nov/Dec, which was the first three months of Incubation. Therefore, the next would be March. We could be wrong of course. Martijn On 1/15/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: C'mon, Folks! The reports

Re: March Board reports due

2007-03-06 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Already had the wicket report under discussion @private. I added our report to the page. Martijn On 3/6/07, Yoav Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hola podlings, This month's ASF Board reports should be written up on the wiki at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2007, like, now ;) OpenEJ

Re: Killing the incubator m2 repository

2007-03-15 Thread Martijn Dashorst
The version attribute is more appropriate IMO, and what was agreed upon in an earlier thread on this list. [1] Regards, Martijn [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200611.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 3/15/07, Jukka Zitting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, On 3/14/07,

Re: Killing the incubator m2 repository

2007-03-15 Thread Martijn Dashorst
> Where does this leave a project that enters to the Incubator with a > user community already? Further, where does this leave a project that > has been in the Incubator long enough to have developed a user > community? I know the answer to the second question is graduation - but what about the f

Re: Killing the incubator m2 repository

2007-03-16 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 3/16/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i wonder whether versioning policies (all podling release versioned 0.x) may be more effective. someone using apache-podling-INCUBATING0.2 As far as I know, branding a release as 'incubating' has the same impact as labeling it 'beta'

Re: Difference between Maven repository and dist directory

2007-03-16 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 3/16/07, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The policy I'm most concerned with in this thread is whether incubating project releases are "official" Apache releases, that provide the ASF legal protections to the authors, and assurances to the downstream users that ASF has done its usua

Re: Killing the incubator m2 repository

2007-03-16 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 3/16/07, Guillaume Nodet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: While the incubator is a good idea, it seems that it is more difficult to build a community inside the incubator than outside, because of all the existing rules. And remember that the release early, release often mantra can not be applied on

Re: Difference between Maven repository and dist directory

2007-03-16 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 3/16/07, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Incubator releases are considerably different from those of every other ASF PMC. A ASF Community is expected to stand behind and maintain its releases. But even those communities can dry out and grind to a halt. It is not that the foundati

[VOTE] Ratify the release of Apache Wicket 1.3.0-incubating-alpha

2007-03-30 Thread Martijn Dashorst
, generated or used as test comparison material. [4] Thank you for your time and effort. Martijn Dashorst [1] http://incubator.apache.org/wicket [2] http://tinyurl.com/28nkjs (release vote) [3] http://tinyurl.com/24p23x (discontinuing trunk vote) [4] http://tinyurl.com/ysgbft (list of license header

Re: Disclaimer TXT ( was Re: [VOTE] Ratify the release of Apache Wicket 1.3.0-incubating-alpha)

2007-03-30 Thread Martijn Dashorst
is the right link for the repo > > On 3/30/07, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Wicket community voted to release its first incubator release. > > Wicket is a component based Java web application framework, undergoing > > incubation since october 2006 [

Re: Disclaimer TXT ( was Re: [VOTE] Ratify the release of Apache Wicket 1.3.0-incubating-alpha)

2007-03-30 Thread Martijn Dashorst
And we use the maven-remote-resources plugin, with the following incubator resource bundle: org.apache:apache-incubator-disclaimer-resource-bundle:1.1 This one provides the DISCLAIMER (without extension) Martijn On 3/30/07, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It is there, at

Ratifying lots of artifacts was(Re: [VOTE] Ratify the release of Apache Wicket 1.3.0-incubating-alpha)

2007-04-01 Thread Martijn Dashorst
We appreciate the effort! The maven repo can of course be retrieved by logging on to p.a.o and creating a tar ball (or I can make one available if that is needed). Would some ant script be of any help? Martijn On 4/1/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 3/30/07, M

Re: Ratifying lots of artifacts was(Re: [VOTE] Ratify the release of Apache Wicket 1.3.0-incubating-alpha)

2007-04-02 Thread Martijn Dashorst
I'm there, but I was hoping to get Wicket ratified long before that :) Martijn On 4/2/07, Martin van den Bemt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Maybe cool to give it some time at the hackathon ? Don't if Martijn is going to be there ? Mvgr, Martin robert burrell donkin wrote: >

Re: Ratifying lots of artifacts was(Re: [VOTE] Ratify the release of Apache Wicket 1.3.0-incubating-alpha)

2007-04-02 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 4/2/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 4/1/07, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We appreciate the effort! i'm very sad to say that i'm afraid that i might not get the cycle's i hoped this week :-/ what did you have in mind?

Re: [VOTE] Ratify the release of Apache Wicket 1.3.0-incubating-alpha

2007-04-04 Thread Martijn Dashorst
On 4/4/07, Bertrand Delacretaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If there have been changes since the release was cut, a new release must IMHO be created, so that people can vote (on the wicket lists first, and then come back here) on the correct one. Like Gwyn said, we'd rather wait until *all* feedb

Re: [VOTE] Ratify the release of Apache Wicket 1.3.0-incubating-alpha

2007-04-07 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Hi Robert, Thanks for taking the time to look at our precious :). Answers inline. On 4/7/07, robert burrell donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 3/30/07, Martijn Dashorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: questions The library for dragging the AJAX debug dialog has the foll

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