RE: REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-27 Thread Newcomer, Eric
neral@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members Leo Simons wrote: > I have never liked this explicit "champion" role, and I don't like > adding responsibilities to it, making things even more explicitly > dependent on the champion. Keep in mind

Re: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-25 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
Thanks Martijn. Regards, Antoine Martijn Dashorst wrote: > PPMC = Podling project management committee > IPMC = Incubator project management committee > > if I'm not mistaken. > > Martijn > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PR

RE: Comment - (Was [Fwd: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members])

2006-10-25 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > What problem are you trying to solve? Garrett's view is that you basically > > "discarded" the Initial Committer list, treated it as advisory, and dealt > > with Committers after the fact. So a minimal Initial Committer list would > > be nul

RE: Comment - (Was [Fwd: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members])

2006-10-25 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > Anyway, I do realize that the discussion was two weeks ago. I just > missed it. Apologies. Ignore me :) No way! Yes, discussion started weeks ago, stopped, and so I called a vote. But I would never want to arbitrarily cut off discussion. --- Noel -

Re: Comment - (Was [Fwd: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members])

2006-10-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Anyway, I do realize that the discussion was two weeks ago. I just missed it. Apologies. Ignore me :) geir Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Should this really be "Shall"? We've been successful

Re: Comment - (Was [Fwd: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members])

2006-10-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Should this really be "Shall"? We've been successful in Harmony with a slightly different model, where we didn't just sweep committers in except for the mentors and champion, because we didnt'

RE: Comment - (Was [Fwd: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members])

2006-10-25 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > Noel J. Bergman wrote: >> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: >>> Should this really be "Shall"? We've been successful in Harmony with a >>> slightly different model, where we didn't just sweep committers in >>> except for the mentors and champion, because we didnt' start with an

RE: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-25 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> What does PPMC mean ? Is it the sub PMC of a particular incubator project ? See: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMA

Re: Comment - (Was [Fwd: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members])

2006-10-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Should this really be "Shall"? We've been successful in Harmony with a slightly different model, where we didn't just sweep committers in except for the mentors and champion, because we didnt' start with any code. Yes, it should be a Shall,

Re: Comment - (Was [Fwd: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members])

2006-10-25 Thread Garrett Rooney
On 10/25/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > Should this really be "Shall"? We've been successful in Harmony with a > slightly different model, where we didn't just sweep committers in > except for the mentors and champion, because we didnt' start with any

RE: Comment - (Was [Fwd: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members])

2006-10-25 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > Should this really be "Shall"? We've been successful in Harmony with a > slightly different model, where we didn't just sweep committers in > except for the mentors and champion, because we didnt' start with any code. Yes, it should be a Shall, since it has been made

Comment - (Was [Fwd: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members])

2006-10-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
treated the Initial Committer list as an indication of interest, and just looked for people that followed through once the project got started. geir Original Message ---- Subject: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:12:19 -0400

Re: Re: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-25 Thread Martijn Dashorst
r incubator project ? Regards, Antoine Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:12:19 -0400 Von: "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> An: general@incubator.apache.org Betreff: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members > The Champio

Re: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-25 Thread Antoine Levy-Lambert
bator.apache.org Betreff: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members > The Champion shall work with the incoming community identify the initial > PPMC members*. The Champion shall review each with the incoming community --

Re: [VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-25 Thread robert burrell donkin
On 10/25/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Based upon all of the discussion -- and positive feedback from Dims, Eric Newcomer, Craig Russell, Jason van Zyl, Martijn Dashorst, David Recordon and Nail Pemberton; slight negative feedback from Leo Simons; and no strongly negative feedba

[VOTE] REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-25 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Based upon all of the discussion -- and positive feedback from Dims, Eric Newcomer, Craig Russell, Jason van Zyl, Martijn Dashorst, David Recordon and Nail Pemberton; slight negative feedback from Leo Simons; and no strongly negative feedback that I notice -- this is now put forth for a formal vot

RE: REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-25 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Leo Simons wrote: > I have never liked this explicit "champion" role, and I don't like > adding responsibilities to it, making things even more explicitly > dependent on the champion. Keep in mind that the Champion role would still end with the begining of Incubation. So the Champion's role is h

Re: REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-13 Thread Leo Simons
On Oct 12, 2006, at 6:42 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Based upon all of the discussion, I'll pose the following as what I hope is an agreeable solution: I have never liked this explicit "champion" role, and I don't like adding responsibilities to it, making things even more explicitly depen

Re: REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-12 Thread Niall Pemberton
+1 (non-binding) Niall On 10/12/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Based upon all of the discussion, I'll pose the following as what I hope is an agreeable solution: -- The Champion shall work with the incoming community to identify the initial committers. The

RE: REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-12 Thread Recordon, David
PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 10/12/2006 9:42 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members Based upon all of the discussion, I'll pose the following as what I hope is an agreeable solution: -- The Champion shall work with the inc

Re: REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-12 Thread Martijn Dashorst
+1 (non binding) This sounds reasonable, and takes clearly into account the incoming community. Martijn On 10/12/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Based upon all of the discussion, I'll pose the following as what I hope is an agreeable solution: -- The Champi

Re: REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-12 Thread Jason van Zyl
+1 On 12 Oct 06, at 11:42 AM 12 Oct 06, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Based upon all of the discussion, I'll pose the following as what I hope is an agreeable solution: -- The Champion shall work with the incoming community to identify the initial committers. The Champion sh

Re: REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-12 Thread Craig L Russell
+1 (non-binding, but opinionated) Craig On 10/12/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Based upon all of the discussion, I'll pose the following as what I hope is an agreeable solution: -- The Champion shall work with the incoming community to identify the in

RE: REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-12 Thread Newcomer, Eric
PPMC membership. Eric -Original Message- From: Noel J. Bergman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 12:43 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members Based upon all of the discussion, I'll pose the following

Re: REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-12 Thread Davanum Srinivas
+1 from me. -- dims On 10/12/06, Noel J. Bergman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Based upon all of the discussion, I'll pose the following as what I hope is an agreeable solution: -- The Champion shall work with the incoming community to identify the initial committers. The Ch

REVISED Policy on Initial Committer and PPMC members

2006-10-12 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Based upon all of the discussion, I'll pose the following as what I hope is an agreeable solution: -- The Champion shall work with the incoming community to identify the initial committers. The Champion shall review each with the incoming community to justify each inclusion (