Hi -
PODLINGNAMESEARCH-189 for EventMesh has been approved.
Regards,
Dave
> On Feb 2, 2021, at 1:33 AM, Eason Chen wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> "*On one hand we don’t have a policy that say you must have to have done a
> name search before becoming a piddling, on the other changing a name does
> incur
Hi,
"*On one hand we don’t have a policy that say you must have to have done a
name search before becoming a piddling, on the other changing a name does
incur a large community cost and Infra would prefer that podlings don’t
change names. Most podlings do the name search just before graduation. In
Hi,
Fully agree with Justin, we from Wayang had the same problem. We
renamed the project before we submitted the proposal, and we
documented everything.
I’d encourage you to find a name which is TM ready in the US, India,
CN and EU (if possible). You can’t graduate (or better it is unlikely)
if a
Hi,
On one hand we don’t have a policy that say you must have to have done a name
search before becoming a piddling, on the other changing a name does incur a
large community cost and Infra would prefer that podlings don’t change names.
Most podlings do the name search just before graduation. I
Hi -
A Name Search was started but not completed.
I’m surprised that a vote was started while that was still active.
Regards,
Dave
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> On Jan 31, 2021, at 7:19 PM, Eason Chen wrote:
>
> All problems and risks seem to be well clarified and resolved. Next, I will
> initiate
All problems and risks seem to be well clarified and resolved. Next, I will
initiate a vote, thank you for your attention and continued participation.
Regards,
Eason
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 1:00 PM Dave Fisher wrote:
> Exactly. Here’s a link -
> https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.ht
Exactly. Here’s a link -
https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html#namesearch
It’s available from here -
https://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html#podling_suitable_name_search
Regards,
Dave
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> On Jan 27, 2021, at 7:42 PM, Justin Mclean wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
Hi,
To help trademarks it would bee best if you provided them with some search
results as described here. [1] Have a look at a couple of the other recent
polling name search JIRAs to get a good idea of what is needed.
Thanks,
Justin
1. http://incubator.apache.org/guides/names.html
Thank you for your correction, a PODLINGNAMESEARCH issue has been created
and followed up.
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-188
On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 9:21 AM Dave Fisher wrote:
>
>
> > On Jan 27, 2021, at 4:58 PM, vongosling wrote:
> >
> > Agree to raise this issue, ev
> On Jan 27, 2021, at 4:58 PM, vongosling wrote:
>
> Agree to raise this issue, even before podling starts. Initial teams need
> to follow up on this potential problem[1]. Let's see how things go :-)
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21353
No! Naming is not an INFRA issue.
Agree to raise this issue, even before podling starts. Initial teams need
to follow up on this potential problem[1]. Let's see how things go :-)
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21353
Matt Sicker 于2021年1月28日周四 上午12:35写道：
> It's typically a good idea to figure out your project nam
If you want to do the name search before being accepted then please submit a
JIRA here:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/PODLINGNAMESEARCH/
You then provide the results of your search in the issue. The trademark
committee / VP, Brand will review. This might take a few weeks.
It is up to
It's typically a good idea to figure out your project name early on.
If you have to change the name before graduation in order to get a
trademark, then that wastes the momentum gathered under the old name.
That can always happen after the podling boots up, though.
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 at 07:44, She
This is just a reminder, not an instruction.
The naming search and approval will officially happen when you are powerful
enough to graduate.
Personally, I would like to see this as a potential risk, not just
regarding Solace.
Of course, this is your option. you should know, if you can't get approv
Hi,
I am honored that JB and François are willing to help the eventmesh
project. I will soon initiate a discussion on evaluating Karaf 5 in the
community.
regards,
Eason Chen
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 8:54 PM wrote:
> +1 for me to be mentor on the project :)
>
> regards,
>
> François
> fpa...@apa
I would like to make a comments about this serious problem too,
In order not to cause unnecessary trouble in the future, we also request the
infra member from apache to help check whether this name is appropriate[1].
For us, we have used the name EventMesh for a long time, and we want to keep i
@Sheng Wu
thank you for your kindly reminder. I would like to clarify this concerns.
As @Duane Pauls clarified this before:
“*I work for Solace and have consulted internally to confirm that we do not
have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event Mesh”. It’s true it is
something our products
+1 for me to be mentor on the project :)
regards,
François
fpa...@apache.org
Le 27/01/2021 à 13:50, Jean-Baptiste Onofre a écrit :
> If you are open to evaluate/PoC EventMesh with Karaf (especially, Karaf 5
> would be a prefect candidate), you can count on me !
>
> I would be more than happy to
If you are open to evaluate/PoC EventMesh with Karaf (especially, Karaf 5 would
be a prefect candidate), you can count on me !
I would be more than happy to be mentor on EventMesh if you think it would be
helpful.
Thanks !
Regards
JB
> Le 27 janv. 2021 à 13:47, Eason Chen a écrit :
>
> Thank
Thanks to the attention of @JB and @François,
I have to admit that Karaf's lightweight operating environment, hot
deployment, dynamic configuration, and safe and rich management functions
are indeed very helpful to help developers and users deploy applications
more flexibly. We will further investi
Hi
I want to send a reminder for your project name chosen.
Event Mesh is widely used as a concept and term, you could find it through
Google search, https://www.google.com/search?q=event+mesh&oq=event+mesh
Sheng Wu 吴晟
Twitter, wusheng1108
于2021年1月27日周三 下午5:12写道：
> Hi,
>
> Yes, it looks very p
Hi,
Yes, it looks very promising.
I will be very happy to help in the incubation process and integrate the
project into Karaf with JB ;)
regards,
François
fpa...@apache.org
Le 27/01/2021 à 10:07, vongosling a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> This is a very young but promising project. The team attached great
Hi,
This is a very young but promising project. The team attached great
importance to this project according to the feedback given by communities.
Through the efforts of the last five months, I am glad to see positive
changes in the project and community.
@Jean-Baptiste Onofré EventMesh really
Hi Eason,
That’s an interesting proposal, indeed.
I would rewrite some part of the proposal, but overall good.
I will check if the EventMesh architecture is "pluggable", meaning that we
"could" replace RocketMQ with another messaging/async provider.
Anyway, if you need some help on the project
Good time of the time to all!
I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion, comments
and feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its acceptance
into Incubator.
People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were behind
the Apache RocketMQ, which I
Hi,
Many previous developments took place internally, but from the perspective of
contributors, there have been more and more users, at least now oppo, alibaba,
etc. users are participating in the contribution. I believe that with the help
of the instructor, we have a better understanding of bui
Hi,
All code of the project will be donated to ASF. There were some inconsistencies
when the project was just open source, but now it is developed based on the
github version.
Thanks,
Eason
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From:
> "general"
>
> 发送时间: 2020年8月14日(星期五) 晚上9:37
> 收件人: "Incubator General"
> 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
>
HI,
> After the project was open sourced, we did not conduct evangelism, and the
> internal version iterations were not synchronized in time.
Does that mean a different version to what in that GitHub will be donated to
ASF? That may complicate things a little as we would need to know who the
Hi,
After the project was open sourced, we did not conduct evangelism, and the
internal version iterations were not synchronized in time. Many of these issues
and prs were raised by many of our partners, and many of them were not
reflected on github. Some document changes were also requested b
t; >
> > If everyone has no problems, i will initiate the voting processs later.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eason
> >
> >
> > -- 原始邮件 --
> > 发件人:
> "general"
> 发送时间: 2020年8月14日(星期五) 下午4:57
> 收件人: "general"
> 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> The incubator prefers that a project comes with a community around it but
> it’s not essential. Not having one may possib
"general"
> <
> wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>;
> 发送时间: 2020年8月14日(星期五) 下午4:46
> 收件人: "Incubator"
> 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
>
>
>
> Eason Chen
> > Hi,
> > Maybe a bi
Thanks for your continued attention.
As i mentened before in my first discuss "And I'd like to emphasize that the
community however small it might look so far", if there are seemingly
inaccurate descriptions in the proposal, I can modify it as needed.
--
Thanks Justin, and can not agree more.
Thanks everyone for your attention to this project and your valuable comments.
If everyone has no problems, i will initiate the voting processs later.
Thanks,
Eason
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Hi,
The incubator prefers that a project comes with a community around it but it’s
not essential. Not having one may possibly make graduation harder, as long as
the project is aware of that I don’t see any issues.
Thanks,
Justin
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>
>
> Thanks,
> Eason
>
>
> -- 原始邮件 --
> 发件人:
> "general"
> <
> wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>;
> 发送时间:
Hi,
Maybe a bit misunderstood, what I am trying to explain is that even if the
project is really in its infancy, it does not prevent the building under apache
way. In fact, many apache projects are built from 0. And mentors also don't
think this is a big problem.
Thanks,
Eason
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> 发件人:
> "general"
> <
> wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>;
> 发送时间: 2020年8月14日(星期五) 下午3:01
> 收件人: "Incubator"
> 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
>
>
>
> Eason Chen
> > Our pr
>1. Just open-sourced
>3. Community development would be a challenge
As mentioned earlier, the project is still in its infancy. I also asked the
mentors how to build the community. I believe that with the help of apache way
and the mentors, we have reasons and confidence to make products more
Thanks for @Duane's reply.
Duane Pauls 于2020年8月11日周二 上午12:25写道：
> I work for Solace and have consulted internally to confirm that we do not
> have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event Mesh”. It’s true it is
> something our products are closely aligned with, but it is an industry term
>
发送时间: 2020年8月14日(星期五) 中午11:35
> 收件人: "general" 抄送: "legal-discuss" 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
>
>
>
> > Thanks for the honesty, I prefer you should adjust the proposal to
> match
> > the reality. Such as
> > 1. Just open-sourced
>
Our product has actually received a lot of attention from people. We have
conducted communication with many people and collected their opinions. We plan
to abstract eventmesh more independently, make product positioning clearer, and
make it easier for everyone to participate. We will invest more
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> 发件人:
> "general"
> <
> duane.pa...@gmail.com>;
> 发送时间: 2020年8月11日(星期二) 凌晨0:16
> 收件人: "legal-discuss" 抄
Thanks for your help and answers @Duane, i will initiate the voting processs
later if you have no other questions.
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Hi??
I want to modify the description of the proposal to make it more accurate,
please help me add permissions??thanks
Here are the details of my account:
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emailchenguangsh...@apache.org
Full NameChen Guangsheng
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I work for Solace and have consulted internally to confirm that we do not
have any copyright or trademark on the term “Event Mesh”. It’s true it is
something our products are closely aligned with, but it is an industry term
that has been adopted by Gartner and is gaining traction in the industry.
S
Hi,
EventMesh will no longer rely strongly on RocketMQ in the future, it is only
one choice of the storage layer, other MQs, redis, blockchain can be
supported in the future plans.
EventMesh is very different from Camel i think, it positioned in event
governance and mesh cloud nativeization.
n addition, I want to clarify that these codes are submitted by the
> > > entire team within our company, but I open sourced them, as you see some
> > > components are not yet open source, we are reviewing and reforming
> > > internally, and will open source soon.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
Hi @Michael
Thanks for your advice. As far as I know, Solace doesn't have a product
called Eventmesh, They're just using that name to promote their PubSub
platform.
But in order not to cause trouble in the future, I also ask guys of Apache
Brand to help check whether this name is appropriate. For
and reforming
> > internally, and will open source soon.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- 原始邮件 --
> > 发件人:
> > "general"
> >
<
> wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>;
> 发送时间: 2020年8月6日(星期四) 下午5:42
> 收件人: "Incubator"
> 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi
>
> Noticed this a little late.
>
> I have some questions about the status of the project, especial
Hi,
We do not deny that the community is not really big and active, we share our
best practices and look forward to getting more people's attention and help, at
the same time can help our colleagues .we believe that as long as we find
the right method and organization such as the apache way, t
发送时间: 2020年8月6日(星期四) 下午5:23
> 收件人: "general"
> 主题: Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
>
>
>
> Hi, Eason,
> It's an interesting project. And I have a few questions and
> it would be great if you could help:
> 1. According to github's statistics[1], most of
Hi, wenming
1. I believe more people will join in the future ;)
2. Sure
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"general"
Hi
Noticed this a little late.
I have some questions about the status of the project, especially about the
`Orphaned Products` and the activity of the community.
With a project open-sourced since September 2019, this doesn't seem like
the status you said in the proposal.
1. If the EventMesh repo
Hi, Eason,
It's an interesting project. And I have a few questions and
it would be great if you could help:
1. According to github's statistics[1], most of the code was contributed by
yourself.
So if you're on vacation, this project will not easy to move forward.
2. An external dependency `logback`
Hi
Im PMC member from ActiveMQ project.
I like the idea, nice. +1 on it as a project idea.
I am though a little -1 on the name of the project, I would recommend that an
alternative name for the project is found as there maybe a conflict in rights
ability to copyright and trademark to it.
I’m a
Hi,
+1, I'm also interesting by this project and I would be happy to help as
mentor if needed.
regards,
François
fpa...@apache.org
Le 04/08/2020 à 19:33, Kevin Ratnasekera a écrit :
> Hi Easen,
>
> +1, Having worked in a similar domain so far, I have to say this is an
> interesting project. If
Hi Easen,
+1, Having worked in a similar domain so far, I have to say this is an
interesting project. If you are seeking new mentors, please consider adding
me as a mentor to the project.
Regards
Kevin
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 3:34 PM Eason Chen wrote:
> Good time of the time to all!
>
>
> I'd l
Good time of the time to all!
I'd like to bring this new interesting project for the discussion, comments and
feedback with the aim of starting a formal [VOTE] of its acceptance into
Incubator.
People behind this project aren't new to Apache: some of them were behind the
Apache RocketMQ, whi
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