Hi,
EventMesh will no longer rely strongly on RocketMQ in the future, it is only
one choice of the storage layer, other MQs, redis, blockchain can be
supported in the future plans.
EventMesh is very different from Camel i think, it positioned in event
governance and mesh cloud nativeization.
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"general"
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????: Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
What are the similarities and differences from Camel? (I'm not making
an argument in any way..just trying to understand it)
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 11:51 AM Clebert Suconic
<clebert.suco...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If you make it generic enough that runs on other messaging solutions
> (Kafka, Artemis, ActiveMQ, RocketMQ), you have less risk of being
> orphaned.
>
> however if it's tight coupled with RocketMQ mentioned.. it becomes
> more like a sub project of your broker than a separate project.
>
> What are the plans?
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 8:58 AM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> > Eason Chen <daerduoc...@qq.com> ??2020??8??6?????? ????6:17??????
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > > We do not deny that the community is not really big and active,
we share
> > > our best practices and look forward to getting more people's
attention and
> > > help, at the same time can help our colleagues&nbsp;.we
believe that as
> > > long as we find the right method and organization such as the
apache way,
> > > the community will become stronger and stronger.&nbsp;
> > >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Thanks for the honesty, I prefer you should adjust the proposal to
match
> > the reality. Such as
> > 1. Just open-sourced
> > 2. Have a risk of being an orphaned project
> > 3. Community development would be a challenge
> >
> > I hope you could understand, a project open-sourced from the company,
and
> > not widely adopted, these are just the fact, don't need to hide them.
> > The incubator is welcome this kind of project, once you have enough
active
> > mentors and initial committers.
> >
> > ---------
> > Personally only, not from an IPMC member perspective
> > ---------
> > The concerns I raised, are from the perspective of protecting the
project,
> > a very young community will face heavy loads of joining the ASF
incubator
> > directly.
> > And from my personal experiences, people(especially in China) will
> > challenge the qualification of the project. I have seen this happened
> > before.
> >
> > Sheng Wu ????
> > Twitter, wusheng1108
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > In addition, I want to clarify that these codes are submitted by
the
> > > entire team within our company, but I open sourced them, as you
see some
> > > components are not yet open source, we are reviewing and
reforming
> > > internally, and will open source soon.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > ??????:
> >
>
"general"
> >
>
<
> > > wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com&gt;;
> > > ????????:&nbsp;2020??8??6??(??????) ????5:42
> > >
??????:&nbsp;"Incubator"<general@incubator.apache.org&gt;;
> > >
> > > ????:&nbsp;Re: [DISCUSS] EventMesh Proposal
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Noticed this a little late.
> > >
> > > I have some questions about the status of the project,
especially about the
> > > `Orphaned Products` and the activity of the community.
> > >
> > > With a project open-sourced since September 2019, this doesn't
seem like
> > > the status you said in the proposal.
> > > 1. If the EventMesh repo is the only code repo, AFAIK, there is
only one
> > > contributor who has submitted the codes over 110 lines, most are
just < 50
> > > lines.
https://github.com/WeBankFinTech/EventMesh/graphs/contributors
> > > 2. Only have 35 issues opened on the GitHub.
> > > https://github.com/WeBankFinTech/EventMesh/issues
> > > 3. The issues(since issue #21) since 21 days ago have no comment
any all.
> > >
> > > From my understanding, this project is only limited maintained
by one and
> > > only one for now.
> > >
> > > To the project community, could you respond what is the real
status now?
> > > And why there is a gap between your proposal and GitHub open
statistics?
> > >
> > > Personally, I have concerns about the activity and support of the
> > > community, or a little more, whether the basic community has been
> > > established.
> > > I think the incubator should notice the status, in case, it will
be hard to
> > > make consensus and release soon in the incubating stage.
> > >
> > > Sheng Wu ????
> > > Twitter, wusheng1108
> > >
> > >
> > > Ming Wen <wenm...@apache.org&gt; ??2020??8??6??????
????5:24??????
> > >
> > > &gt; Hi, Eason,
> > > &gt; It's an interesting project. And I have a few questions
and
> > > &gt; it would be great if you could help:
> > > &gt; 1. According to github's statistics[1], most of the
code was
> > > contributed by
> > > &gt; yourself.
> > > &gt; So if you're on vacation, this project will not easy to
move forward.
> > > &gt; 2. An external dependency `logback` is LGPL license,
which is
> > > Category X.
> > > &gt; Can this dependency be removed?
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; [1]
https://github.com/WeBankFinTech/EventMesh/graphs/contributors
> > > &gt
<https://github.com/WeBankFinTech/EventMesh/graphs/contributors&gt>;
> > > &gt; Thanks,
> > > &gt; Ming Wen, Apache APISIX &amp; Apache SkyWalking
> > > &gt; Twitter: _WenMing
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; Eason Chen <daerduoc...@qq.com&gt;
??2020??8??4?????? ????6:04??????
> > > &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; Good time of the time to all!
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; I'd like to bring this new interesting project
for the
> > > discussion,
> > > &gt; &gt; comments and feedback with the aim of starting
a formal [VOTE]
> > > of its
> > > &gt; &gt; acceptance into Incubator.
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; People behind this project aren't new to
Apache: some of them
> > > were behind
> > > &gt; &gt; the Apache RocketMQ, which I consider a huge
success(especially
> > > in
> > > &gt; China)as
> > > &gt; &gt; the community is literally thriving almost 3
years after the
> > > graduation.
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; I have been involved a little bit with this
project when it just
> > > started
> > > &gt; &gt; in WeBank a few years ago. And I'd like to
emphasize that the
> > > community
> > > &gt; &gt; however small it might look so far, has been
aligned with Apache
> > > ways of
> > > &gt; &gt; doing things. Heng Du (from RocketMQ PMC) is
very instrumental in
> > > &gt; &gt; tirelessly helping this group to learn what it
means to be a
> > > truly open
> > > &gt; &gt; source project.
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; The code is already under ALv2 and is publicly
available. As you
> > > will see
> > > &gt; &gt; it has a lot of dependency connections with
the rest of Apache
> > > ecosystem
> > > &gt; &gt; and IMO will fit very well here and continue
to grow the
> > > community.
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; The project's proposal is available at [1].
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; Thank you very much for the feedback you're
willing to provide!
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; &amp;nbsp;With best regards,
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; &amp;nbsp;Eason Chen
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > > &gt; &gt; [1]
> > > &gt; &gt;
> > >
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/EventMeshProposal
> > > &gt
> > >
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/EventMeshProposal&gt>
> > > ;
>
>
>
> --
> Clebert Suconic
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