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> It seems to me that the issue of installing or not binary drivers is > orthogonal to the issue of accepting or not the GPUs. I agree. And for using non-free software: it is of course not ideal, but historically lots of free software was developed using non-free software (you have to start somew

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On 31 March 2011 11:42, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Hello, > > Nikodemus Siivola writes: > >> On 30 March 2011 19:12, Ludovic Courtès wrote: >> >>> However, my point is that there is currently no free software tool to >>> program NVIDIA’s GPUs.  My understanding is that the GCC C.F. seeks to >>> he

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On 2011-03-31 17:24, Mark Wielaard wrote: > On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 16:12 +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: >> Jason Merrill writes: >> >>> could also be used with non-free software doesn't sound like freedom >>> to me. If the software is the problem, just don't install it. >> >> Sure, but then you can

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On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 16:12 +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Jason Merrill writes: > > > could also be used with non-free software doesn't sound like freedom > > to me. If the software is the problem, just don't install it. > > Sure, but then you cannot use the hardware. That is just till someo

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Jason Merrill writes: > could also be used with non-free software doesn't sound like freedom > to me. If the software is the problem, just don't install it. Sure, but then you cannot use the hardware. Ludo’. ___ Gcc-cfarm-users mailing list Gcc-cfa

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On 03/31/2011 05:42 AM, Ludovic Courtès wrote: Nikodemus Siivola writes: Um, how does GCC farm saying "no thanks" to a gift of GPUs help the production of free software to work with those GPUs? You’re right, but my impression is that people will work on projects that build upon NVIDIA’s CUDA

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Hello, Nikodemus Siivola writes: > On 30 March 2011 19:12, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > >> However, my point is that there is currently no free software tool to >> program NVIDIA’s GPUs.  My understanding is that the GCC C.F. seeks to >> help free software developers, and to promote free software.

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Hi Laurent, On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 13:56 +0200, Laurent GUERBY wrote: > It should be okay to get donated a few Nvidia GPU cards for the farm as > long as we can identify any projects that people have expressed interest > in doing on GPGPU hardware. Would the hardware come with enough documentation

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Hi, On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 06:56, Laurent GUERBY wrote: > Please could you add to the ticket a few projects, ideas and URLs > related to Nvidia GPGPU? An URL and a sentence or two should be enough. Graphite-OpenCL automatically generates OpenCL code from all the languages supported by GCC. For

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Hello Ludovic, l...@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) writes: > So, getting back to Laurent’s initial message, I wonder how using > NVIDIA’s proprietary software fits in the Compile Farm’s “mission”. Some people have done a lot of work reverse-engineering NVIDIA's proprietary stack to come up with Copyl

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Check out Ocelot, from Georgia Tech: http://code.google.com/p/gpuocelot/ NVIDIA supported this work also, which is now targeting AMD GPUs and Cell. -d. -- http://monkey.org/~dugsong/ ___ Gcc-cfarm-users mailing list Gcc-cfarm-users@gna.org https

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Hi, On 03/30/2011 05:02 PM, Aleksandar Samardzic wrote: A clarification first: There is much talk about OpenCL here, and I can understand "open standard" and alike qualifications have sort of attractiveness to audience here. However, at the moment tool-chains are equally closed for both OpenCL a

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On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > Hi Olivier, > > I understand your point about OpenCL being an open standard, potentially > with implementations for different GPUs, unlike CUDA. A clarification first: There is much talk about OpenCL here, and I can understand "open standa

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Hi Ludo', 2011/3/30 > However, my point is that there is currently no free software tool to > program NVIDIA’s GPUs. Well, I guess it would be easier to write such free software tools (including drivers) if free software developers had access to those NVIDIA GPUs, say, in the GNU build farm ;-

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On 03/30/2011 06:25 PM, Nikodemus Siivola wrote: On 30 March 2011 19:12, Ludovic Courtès wrote: However, my point is that there is currently no free software tool to program NVIDIA’s GPUs. My understanding is that the GCC C.F. seeks to help free software developers, and to promote free softwa

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On 30 March 2011 19:12, Ludovic Courtès wrote: > However, my point is that there is currently no free software tool to > program NVIDIA’s GPUs.  My understanding is that the GCC C.F. seeks to > help free software developers, and to promote free software.  Inviting > people to use proprietary soft

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Hi Olivier, I understand your point about OpenCL being an open standard, potentially with implementations for different GPUs, unlike CUDA. However, my point is that there is currently no free software tool to program NVIDIA’s GPUs. My understanding is that the GCC C.F. seeks to help free softwar

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Hi Ludo', 2011/3/30 > So, getting back to Laurent’s initial message, I wonder how using > NVIDIA’s proprietary software fits in the Compile Farm’s “mission”. > I would consider it an incentive for free software developers to depend > on NVIDIA’s proprietary software stack and strengthen its de

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Hi, Olivier Chafik writes: > Thanks for the reference, I didn't know about Clover (and know of no other > free implementation). So, getting back to Laurent’s initial message, I wonder how using NVIDIA’s proprietary software fits in the Compile Farm’s “mission”. I would consider it an incentive

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2011/3/29 Ludovic Courtès > > Woow, looks very interesting, especially ScalaCL. > > From > I > see that kernels can be written “seamlessly”, which is nice. I suppose > it relies on the underlying OpenCL implementation for that.

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Hi Olivier, Olivier Chafik writes: > 2011/3/29 Ludovic Courtès > >> What free software is there that would allow NVIDIA GPGPUs to be used? >> > > There are some on the OpenCL / CUDA side (JavaCL and ScalaCL, to only name > the ones I invested into ;-)) and some others on the OpenGL side (JOGL..

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On Tue, 2011-03-29 at 16:19 +0200, Jonas Maebe wrote: > On 29 Mar 2011, at 16:16, Luke-Jr wrote: > > > On Tuesday, March 29, 2011 7:56:11 am Laurent GUERBY wrote: > >> Nvidia donations come with no restrictions and no deliverables but > >> it's > >> always better to help them justify the donatio

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Hi Ludovic, 2011/3/29 Ludovic Courtès > What free software is there that would allow NVIDIA GPGPUs to be used? > There are some on the OpenCL / CUDA side (JavaCL and ScalaCL, to only name the ones I invested into ;-)) and some others on the OpenGL side (JOGL...). Cheers -- zOlive http://ochafi

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On 29 Mar 2011, at 16:16, Luke-Jr wrote: On Tuesday, March 29, 2011 7:56:11 am Laurent GUERBY wrote: Nvidia donations come with no restrictions and no deliverables but it's always better to help them justify the donation :). No deliverables means no documentation on how to use them? "No

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On Tuesday, March 29, 2011 7:56:11 am Laurent GUERBY wrote: > Nvidia donations come with no restrictions and no deliverables but it's > always better to help them justify the donation :). No deliverables means no documentation on how to use them? As far as I know, this means only using what has b

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Hi Laurent, Laurent GUERBY writes: > Thanks to Dug Song we've been talking to Nvidia to be part of their > partnership program: What free software is there that would allow NVIDIA GPGPUs to be used? Thanks, Ludo'. ___ Gcc-cfarm-users mailing list Gc

[Gcc-cfarm-users] GPGPU Nvidia => call for short projects description

Hi, Thanks to Dug Song we've been talking to Nvidia to be part of their partnership program: http://research.nvidia.com/content/academic-partnership-program It should be okay to get donated a few Nvidia GPU cards for the farm as long as we can identify any projects that people have expressed int