Re: [FRIAM] "I hope I'm wrong. But that text reads like it was generated by an LLM"

2025-01-26 Thread Nicholas Thompson
You guys Freak me out! You work all your lives to create a machine that can do human things, but are somehow the last to admit that the thing you have created is human. Are are you worried that you have put yourselves out of a job? Hardly! Just as blood and bone humanity can be improved endlessl

Re: [FRIAM] "I hope I'm wrong. But that text reads like it was generated by an LLM"

2025-01-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
Steve writes: “My biggest gripe about GPT (and ilk) is that it is too eager to please or agree with me.” Ask questions like “What risks can you see in an approach where one was to ..?” Alternatively, “I’m concerned about the correctness of this code. Can you think of ways to test it? Are the

Re: [FRIAM] "I hope I'm wrong. But that text reads like it was generated by an LLM"

2025-01-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
I believe Steve said that his interactions with ChatGPT have sometimes led him to decide NOT to pursue a project. I find this a valuable feature. Notionally, it enables me to chop off whole parts of a search tree and not invest in dead ends. These systems enable people to engage in motivated le

Re: [FRIAM] GhostGPT

2025-01-26 Thread Gillian Densmore
No drugs? oO good lord are you ok? I currently take several doses of 1,3,7-Trimethylpurine-2,6-dione infused into Coffea canephora and Coffea arabica in approximately 2 sometimes 3 cup increments. and infused in a glass container (a very black and decker drug paraphernalia device, thank you mum!).

Re: [FRIAM] "I hope I'm wrong. But that text reads like it was generated by an LLM"

2025-01-26 Thread Eric Charles
Frank, And think of how much easier it all would have been with AI assist! Nick, Can you ask George to give you the first 20 pages of a memoir of a boy growing up in New Mexico in , including the first few years and every summer until the boy went to university? Be sure to mention that the boy mov

Re: [FRIAM] "I hope I'm wrong. But that text reads like it was generated by an LLM"

2025-01-26 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Consider it done. What have I learned? No Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology Clark University nthomp...@clarku.edu https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 3:40 PM Eric Charles wrote: > Frank, > And think of how much easier it all would hav

Re: [FRIAM] "I hope I'm wrong. But that text reads like it was generated by an LLM"

2025-01-26 Thread Frank Wimberly
Compare the result with amazon.com/author/frankwimberly It took me two weeks to write and contains about 100 pages. Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sun, Jan 26, 2025, 3:40 PM Eric Charles wrote: > Frank, > And think of how muc

Re: [FRIAM] "I hope I'm wrong. But that text reads like it was generated by an LLM"

2025-01-26 Thread Santafe
How Odd. I read (part of) the first one, and thought That doesnt sound like Frank. Then the Cormac one: yucky like a supermarket tabloid (not that bad, but). It’s all unbelievably impressive, of course. But we have people saying they can’t stand the mass-produced quality of essentially all

Re: [FRIAM] "I hope I'm wrong. But that text reads like it was generated by an LLM"

2025-01-26 Thread Stephen Guerin
On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 6:25 PM Marcus Daniels wrote: > https://www.hereafter.ai/ble.com/ > Related to hearafter.ai, Hiroshi Ishii of MIT tangible Computing Lab demonstrated his "teleabsence" project: https://tangible.media.mit.edu/project/teleabsence/ .- .-..

Re: [FRIAM] "I hope I'm wrong. But that text reads like it was generated by an LLM"

2025-01-26 Thread steve smith
On 1/25/25 7:48 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: I wrote a memoir about my life in New Mexico including the first few years and every summer until I went to university. People who read it who know me say they can hear my voice when they read it.  LLMs were not available when I wrote it. I do wonder

Re: [FRIAM] "I hope I'm wrong. But that text reads like it was generated by an LLM"

2025-01-26 Thread steve smith
Nick - This is a rather eloquent (and/or disturbing?) vision of a potential trajectory of human-machine fusion.   I can't say I seek or approve to get on that trajectory myself, but it is not so inconceivable to me as to make me want to deny the possibility. If I wake up one day with said "vo

Re: [FRIAM] "I hope I'm wrong. But that text reads like it was generated by an LLM"

2025-01-26 Thread steve smith
I don't presume to guess whether others should or should not engage various types of technology to enhance their work (or play) product or maybe more critically, to enhance their own self-training.   It is perhaps never too late to have a good mentor and/or tutor on any skill or topic? Keyboa

Re: [FRIAM] "I hope I'm wrong. But that text reads like it was generated by an LLM"

2025-01-26 Thread Russell Standish
On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 05:19:38PM -0700, Frank Wimberly wrote: > Very good, Stephen.  More feelingful and poetic than my writing.  What I wrote > is more factual and specific.  I wish mine could have been a bit more > "romantic" but it was me.  (Grammar requires "I" but...) Agreement of the copul

Re: [FRIAM] "I hope I'm wrong. But that text reads like it was generated by an LLM"

2025-01-26 Thread Stephen Guerin
On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 6:28 PM Santafe wrote: > God the Cormac priming is really bad. Can’t write in ones own voice > afterward, nor of course in his. On God's Voice in Cormac's voice: The expriest shook his head. Oh it may be the Lord's way of showin how little store he sets by the learned

Re: [FRIAM] "I hope I'm wrong. But that text reads like it was generated by an LLM"

2025-01-26 Thread Frank Wimberly
Typical behaviorist. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sun, Jan 26, 2025, 11:47 AM Nicholas Thompson wrote: > You guys Freak me out! You work all your lives to create a machine that > can do human things, but are somehow the last to admi

Re: [FRIAM] "I hope I'm wrong. But that text reads like it was generated by an LLM"

2025-01-26 Thread Marcus Daniels
It may have been when I started using computers -- the end of the Symbolics / Lisp machine era and the start of the AI winter. Of course, THE reason for developing computer technology is to facilitate the emergence of artificial intelligence. When I see people that work in the field that are wa

Re: [FRIAM] "I hope I'm wrong. But that text reads like it was generated by an LLM"

2025-01-26 Thread Frank Wimberly
That was for Nick. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sun, Jan 26, 2025, 12:09 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > Typical behaviorist. > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On

Re: [FRIAM] "I hope I'm wrong. But that text reads like it was generated by an LLM"

2025-01-26 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Monist, Frank, monist! A plain old behaviorist would never talk about Hearing a voice. Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology Clark University nthomp...@clarku.edu https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson On Sun, Jan 26, 2025 at 12:12 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > That w