Re: [Freesurfer] Incorrect white and pial surfaces

2009-10-07 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Angel, the image doesn't have an extension - what type is it? In general it isn't a problem if the surfaces don't match the aseg. We usually trust the surfaces more than the aseg for cortical morphometry - check to see whether they match the norm.mgz or the brain.mgz. cheers Bruce On Wed, 7

Re: [Freesurfer] group contrast with different slice thicknesses/xyz dimensions/orientations

2009-10-07 Thread James Root
In regard to group differences, roughly 1/3 of the scans in one group match the voxel size and orientation parameters in the other. The remaining scans are uniformly different from each other. Not knowing the specific effects that comparing unequal parameters will have in a Freesurfer analysis, i

Re: [Freesurfer] group contrast with different slice thicknesses/xyz dimensions/orientations

2009-10-07 Thread Bruce Fischl
why don't you try doing a within-group (ideally control) across-sequence study and see what the effect is. On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, James Root wrote: > In regard to group differences, roughly 1/3 of the scans in one group match > the voxel size and orientation parameters in the other. The remaining s

Re: [Freesurfer] group contrast with different slice thicknesses/xyz dimensions/orientations

2009-10-07 Thread jcroot
I will. Thanks Bruce. On Oct 7, 2009 9:07am, Bruce Fischl wrote: why don't you try doing a within-group (ideally control) across-sequence study and see what the effect is. On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, James Root wrote: In regard to group differences, roughly 1/3 of the scans in one group matc

[Freesurfer] Error message

2009-10-07 Thread Weisinger, Brian (NIH/OD) [E]
This error message came up when running the base run with the notal check...any ideas how to fix this problem? imgrege: no voxels in register ERROR: 'imgreg_4dfp /Applications/freesurfer/average/711-2C_as_mni_average_305 /Applications/freesurfer/average/711-2B_as_mni_average_305_mask talsrcimg_g

[Freesurfer] difference between lh.aparc.a2005s.stats and lh.aparc.stats...

2009-10-07 Thread Gonzalo Rojas
Hi: In lh.aparc.a2005s.stats and lh.aparc.stats files, the volume of the cuneus is different... Why ?.. Sincerely, -- Gonzalo Rojas Costa Department of Radiology Las Condes Clinic Lo Fontecilla 441, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile. Tel: 56-2-2105170 Cel: 56-9-97771785 www.clc.cl ___

Re: [Freesurfer] difference between lh.aparc.a2005s.stats and lh.aparc.stats...

2009-10-07 Thread Bruce Fischl
because they are different anatomical definitions for the boundaries of the cuneus On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Gonzalo Rojas wrote: > Hi: > > In lh.aparc.a2005s.stats and lh.aparc.stats files, the volume of the > cuneus is different... Why ?.. > > Sincerely, > > > ___

[Freesurfer] show only thalamus segmentation

2009-10-07 Thread asaf achiron
Hi group, i am using for visualisation this commend: tkmedit bert norm.mgz -segmentation aseg.mgz $FREESURFER_HOME/FreeSurferColorLUT.txt However, i would like to view *only* the thalamus. how can i do that? thank you, Asaf ___ Freesurfer mailing lis

[Freesurfer] question about calculating total gray matter volume

2009-10-07 Thread Mehul Sampat
Hi Folks, I was trying to compute the total gray matter volume and I wanted to check if I was using the correct procedure. I looked at the "Morphometry Stats" page for this issue (http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/MorphometryStats?highlight=%28gray%29%7C%28volume%29%7C%28matter%29) The in

[Freesurfer] question about calculating total gray matter volume

2009-10-07 Thread Mehul Sampat
Hi Folks, I was trying to compute the total gray matter volume and I wanted to check if I was using the correct procedure. I looked at the "Morphometry Stats" page for this issue (http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/MorphometryStats?highlight=%28gray%29%7C%28volume%29%7C%28matter%29) The in

[Freesurfer] cortical thickness estimation w/ grey matter segmentation apriori

2009-10-07 Thread Elisa Dell'Oglio
Hi all, I have a question regarding cortical thickness estimation in freesurfer. I was wondering whether it is possible to input in freesurfer the gray matter segmentation as an a priori. Specifically, I run freesurfer on a set of cases on which I previously run spm and obtained a good discriminat

[Freesurfer] tkmedit "save main volume as.." option...

2009-10-07 Thread Gonzalo Rojas
Hi: I do all the steps of the "Manual Editing" process that appears in http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/SkullStripFix, but the "save main volume as.." option appears in gray (off)... Why ?... I thought it might be a access permission related issue, but it was not... Since

[Freesurfer] Binary files not executable

2009-10-07 Thread Andrew Jahn
Hello, I recently installed FreeSurfer on one of my laptops running Ubuntu and get the following error when I attempt to run tkmedit: Exec format error. Binary file not executable. I thought I remembered something about setting a soft link for one of the libraries in Ubuntu. Am I on the right

Re: [Freesurfer] Error message

2009-10-07 Thread Nick Schmansky
what does the file transforms/talairach_avi.log say? On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 10:05 -0400, Weisinger, Brian (NIH/OD) [E] wrote: > This error message came up when running the base run with the notal > check...any ideas how to fix this problem? > > imgrege: no voxels in register > ERROR: 'imgreg_4df

Re: [Freesurfer] tkmedit "save main volume as.." option...

2009-10-07 Thread Nick Schmansky
are you editing brainmask.mgz? i'm unable to replicate the problem. On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 13:45 -0400, Gonzalo Rojas wrote: > Hi: > >I do all the steps of the "Manual Editing" process that appears in > http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/SkullStripFix, but > the "save main vo

Re: [Freesurfer] tkmedit "save main volume as.." option...

2009-10-07 Thread Gonzalo Rojas
Hi: Yes... I am editing brainmask.mgz... Sincerely, Gonzalo Rojas Costa Department of Radiology Las Condes Clinic Lo Fontecilla 441, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile. Tel: 56-2-2105170 Cel: 56-9-97771785 www.clc.cl Nick Schmansky escribió: > are you editing brainmask.mgz? i'm unable to repl

Re: [Freesurfer] Binary files not executable

2009-10-07 Thread Nick Schmansky
you do need to symlink libtiff.so.4 to libtiff.so.3, but that doesnt look like the problem here. are you sure you're not trying to run the 64b binaries on a 32b system? n. On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 13:46 -0400, Andrew Jahn wrote: > Hello, > > I recently installed FreeSurfer on one of my laptops run

Re: [Freesurfer] cortical thickness estimation w/ grey matter segmentation apriori

2009-10-07 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Elisa, Rudolph Pienaar (ccd) put together something for this I think. cheers Bruce On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Elisa Dell'Oglio wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a question regarding cortical thickness estimation in freesurfer. I > was wondering whether it is possible to input in freesurfer the gray matt

Re: [Freesurfer] show only thalamus segmentation

2009-10-07 Thread Douglas N Greve
You can binarize the aseg.mgz with mri_binarize and spec the "binval" and "match" values to be that of the segmentation you are interested in. Then load as you would the aseg.mgz doug asaf achiron wrote: > > Hi group, > i am using for visualisation this commend: > tkmedit bert norm.mgz -segmen

Re: [Freesurfer] Poor grey and white matter segmentation

2009-10-07 Thread Bruce Fischl
eek, that looks pretty bad. Can you tell us what the acquisition parameters are? On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Angel Wong wrote: > Dear all > > > > Actually I would like to perform automated reconstruction for my T1 image > and then obtain anatomical labels after cortical parcellation. I have done > fully

Re: [Freesurfer] cortical thickness estimation w/ grey matter segmentation apriori

2009-10-07 Thread Elisa Dell'Oglio
Hi Rudolph, I was wondering if you could give me any hint regarding how to use an apriori GM segmentation in freesurfer. I basically already have a good segmentation of GM vs WM and CSF from spm and would like to use this towards the computing cortical thickness. Thanks, Elisa 2009/10/7 Bruce Fi

[Freesurfer] watershed error...

2009-10-07 Thread Gonzalo Rojas
Hi: I got the following error... How can I solve it ?... recon-all.log - mri_watershed -T1 -brain_atlas /usr/local/freesurfer/average/RB_all_withskull_2008-03-26.gca transforms/talairach_with_skull.lta T1.mgz brainmask.auto.mg

Re: [Freesurfer] Poor grey and white matter segmentation

2009-10-07 Thread Bruce Fischl
I see. Your TR is quite short and your TE relatively long, so this is probably pretty poor CNR between gray and white. If you send me the orig.mgz I'll take a look and see if it's fixable On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Angel Wong wrote: > Hi Bruce > > Attached please find the parameters for acquiring the

Re: [Freesurfer] cortical thickness estimation w/ grey matter segmentation apriori

2009-10-07 Thread Rudolph Pienaar
Hi Elisa (and Joost) It is definitely (*) possible to feed custom segmentations through the FreeSurfer stream and have surfaces be constructed. I can sketch the general idea here, but will need to check the system we actually used for all the detail. Basically, given a GM segmentation you need

Re: [Freesurfer] watershed error...

2009-10-07 Thread Nick Schmansky
check if the whitematter in the file T1.mgz is around value 110. if not, then put some control points in the white matter in nu.mgz and re-run recon-all. n. On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 15:34 -0400, Gonzalo Rojas wrote: > Hi: > >I got the following error... How can I solve it ?... > > recon-all.l

Re: [Freesurfer] watershed error...

2009-10-07 Thread Gonzalo Rojas
Hi: Yes... the occipital white matter has value 110 in general... The frontal white matter has voxels with values 94 to 117 aprox... Sincerely, Gonzalo Rojas Costa Department of Radiology Las Condes Clinic Lo Fontecilla 441, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile. Tel: 56-2-2105170 Cel: 56-9-977717

Re: [Freesurfer] watershed error...

2009-10-07 Thread Gonzalo Rojas
Hi: How can I put the control points in the nu.mgz image ?... Sincerely Gonzalo Rojas Costa Department of Radiology Las Condes Clinic Lo Fontecilla 441, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile. Tel: 56-2-2105170 Cel: 56-9-97771785 www.clc.cl Nick Schmansky escribió: > check if the whitematter in th

Re: [Freesurfer] watershed error...

2009-10-07 Thread Nick Schmansky
another thing to try is include the flag -no-wsgcaatlas flag, like this: recon-all -s subjid -skull-strip -no-wsgcaatlas this bypasses usage of the atlas. if that fails, you can send me the 001.mgz input file to the filedrop: https://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/facility/filedrop/index.html n. On

Re: [Freesurfer] watershed error...

2009-10-07 Thread Gonzalo Rojas
Hi: Ok... I test it with the command that you told me, and I added the option "wsthresh 35"... Then I got a good skull stripped image... Sincerely, Gonzalo Rojas Costa Department of Radiology Las Condes Clinic Lo Fontecilla 441, Las Condes, Santiago, Chile. Tel: 56-2-2105170 Cel: 56-9-97

Re: [Freesurfer] question about calculating total gray matter volume

2009-10-07 Thread Douglas N Greve
If you want the pial volume, then you should not use mris_wm_volume as this excludes subcortical gray. Use mris_volume for both the white and pial, then do your subtraction. doug Mehul Sampat wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I was trying to compute the total gray matter volume and I wanted to > check if

Re: [Freesurfer] watershed error...

2009-10-07 Thread Bruce Fischl
check to see if the intensity normalization worked (does the T1.mgz white matter have intensities of 110 most places) On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Gonzalo Rojas wrote: > Hi: > > I got the following error... How can I solve it ?... > > recon-all.log >

Re: [Freesurfer] FW: tkregister2 questions

2009-10-07 Thread Martin Reuter
Hi Brian, coming back to your talairach.xfm question. Actually it is not really used for anything except the eTIV computation (estimated total intracranial volume). Therefore it is not really necessary to correct this unless you need that value. The talairach.lta however is used for the segmentati

Re: [Freesurfer] watershed error...

2009-10-07 Thread Bruce Fischl
sorry, it doesn't sound like this is the problem. You could try putting some seed points in the white matter for the watershed. Not sure what the interface is for that. You should also check to make sure that the atlas transform it is using is reasonable. On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Gonzalo Rojas wro

[Freesurfer] mri_nu_correct.mni intensity correction problem

2009-10-07 Thread Jeff Sadino
Hello, I asked this question a couple days ago, but never got an answer. Please excuse the double posting. I am running FS 3 and am having problems with auto-recon1, in particular the mri_nu_correct.mni step. My orig volume has intensities around 150-250, but my nu.mgz image has intensities all b

[Freesurfer] Smaller

2009-10-07 Thread Jeff Sadino
Hello Surfers, I have a number of subjects that are displaying a large number of small holes in the superior region of their white matter. I believe the medical term for them is virchow-robin spaces. We would like to try to quantify the volume that these holes occupy. Is there any way to break d

Re: [Freesurfer] mri_nu_correct.mni intensity correction problem

2009-10-07 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Jeff, sorry, I don't know what causes the nu_correct to do this, but you'll probably have to skip that step as otherwise you've lost too much dynamic range. I would try copying orig.mgz to nu.mgz and running all the steps afterwards. cheers Bruce On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Jeff Sadino wrote: > He