Re: ijppp for isdn, ppp compression, and netgraph (also: load balancing)

2000-03-05 Thread Julian Elischer
Hellmuth Michaelis wrote: > > >From the keyboard of Juergen Lock: > > > And the other reason i'm looking at ijppp is ppp compression. It > > currently supports deflate (rfc1979) and predictor1 (rfc1978), which > > should at least help if the other end is running bsd or linux, > > but if your o

Re: Copy-on-write filesystem

2000-03-05 Thread sthaug
> > Imagine: cp file file2, file and file2 reference the same exact blocks, > > but modified chunks of file2 would be given their own private blocks. > > This is not a microsoft innovation, actually, I believe it was a VMS > innovation. It's called a generational filesystem. the original is > s

Re: ijppp for isdn, ppp compression, and netgraph (also: load balancing)

2000-03-05 Thread Hellmuth Michaelis
>From the keyboard of Julian Elischer: > > > today... impressive stuff.) and is someone working on linking i4b > > > and netgraph? > > > > There will be a netgraph node interface which will link an i4b B-channel > > to netgraph. There are no plans from my side to netgraphify the D-channel > >

Re: Onstream?

2000-03-05 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Warner Losh wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matthew >Jacob writes: > : I gave up on supporting it- too much work for too little gain, IMO. > > The same thing happened on the IDE side of things. Even with Soren's > hacks, I never could get it to work well. It worked as well as

Re: ijppp for isdn, ppp compression, and netgraph (also: load balancing)

2000-03-05 Thread Brian Somers
[.] > Currently i'm using ppp instead of mppd mostly just because it supports > deflate compression. I had a look at both mppd and ppp to see how the > mentioned free stac compression would be integrateable and found them > both similar, given they both come from iijppp. It looks like if it we

Re: Onstream?

2000-03-05 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Alan Batie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just got an onstream scsi tape drive only to discover that I should've > checked the archives because it don't work. Depends on the drive. If you got an Echo drive (SCxx), you're right. The ADR drives--yes, they all use ADR tape technology, but confusing

Re: Copy-on-write filesystem

2000-03-05 Thread Louis A. Mamakos
> > > Imagine: cp file file2, file and file2 reference the same exact blocks, > > > but modified chunks of file2 would be given their own private blocks. > > > > This is not a microsoft innovation, actually, I believe it was a VMS > > innovation. It's called a generational filesystem. the origi

Re: empty lists in for

2000-03-05 Thread W Gerald Hicks
> > bash and ksh complain about unexpected ';'. > > /bin/sh (FreeBSD) thinks it's ok and does nothing. > > Which behaviour is more POSIXly correct? > > Neither bash nor ksh claim to be particularly POSIX compliant. our > /bin/sh does. I seem to remember POSIX being ambiguous on this one, but

Re: ijppp for isdn, ppp compression, and netgraph (also: load balancing)

2000-03-05 Thread Juergen Lock
On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 06:32:45AM +0100, Hellmuth Michaelis wrote: > >From the keyboard of Juergen Lock: > > > And the other reason i'm looking at ijppp is ppp compression. It > > currently supports deflate (rfc1979) and predictor1 (rfc1978), which > > should at least help if the other end is

Re: ijppp for isdn, ppp compression, and netgraph (also: load balancing)

2000-03-05 Thread Juergen Lock
On Sun, Mar 05, 2000 at 12:31:30AM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > Hellmuth Michaelis wrote: > > > > >From the keyboard of Juergen Lock: > > > > > And the other reason i'm looking at ijppp is ppp compression. It > > > currently supports deflate (rfc1979) and predictor1 (rfc1978), which > > > s

Re: empty lists in for

2000-03-05 Thread Doug Barton
W Gerald Hicks wrote: > > > > bash and ksh complain about unexpected ';'. > > > /bin/sh (FreeBSD) thinks it's ok and does nothing. > > > Which behaviour is more POSIXly correct? > > > > > Neither bash nor ksh claim to be particularly POSIX compliant. our > > /bin/sh does. I seem to remember PO

Removing zombie kernel threads

2000-03-05 Thread Zhihui Zhang
I have created several kernel threads that can die after being idle for a while. I did this by copying the kthread_create() funtion from CURRENT over to FreeBSD 3.3-Release. Is there a way to remove the zombie threads after they die or prevent them from creating? Any potential problems in trying

Re: Onstream?

2000-03-05 Thread Matthew Jacob
You see- this why I dropped the notion of supporting the earlier unit- if there's one with a real SCSI i/f, why bother? I mean, yes, it'll cost more, but my take on that is "Don't get cheap on your backups". On 5 Mar 2000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Alan Batie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

vmpfw, again...

2000-03-05 Thread David E. Cross
I have 2 cores from machines in the aforementioned state. What should I do? For those not playing at home, it appears there is some sort of deadlock situation in the NFS or VM system. The indication of this is a process that blocks in 'vmpfw' for no apparent reason. All other transactions to t

Re: Keeping using locally modified source

2000-03-05 Thread John Polstra
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Bill Fenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've got this program in my head that takes a CVS tree and turns it > into a branch ofanother CVS tree (e.g. FreeBSD rev 1.7 turns into > rev 1.1.1.7) but it's never managed to make it out of my head, so > it must be hard

Re: empty lists in for

2000-03-05 Thread John Polstra
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Given that Bash in both standard and POSIX mode complains about 'for i > in ; do echo $i; done', I would say that it's not POSIX compatible. What > could/does depend on this behavior "working?" It works for the rea

Re: empty lists in for

2000-03-05 Thread Doug Barton
John Polstra wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Given that Bash in both standard and POSIX mode complains about 'for i > > in ; do echo $i; done', I would say that it's not POSIX compatible. What > > could/does depend on this behavio

Re: empty lists in for

2000-03-05 Thread W Gerald Hicks
From: Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: empty lists in for Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2000 11:39:49 -0800 > W Gerald Hicks wrote: > > > > > > bash and ksh complain about unexpected ';'. > > > > /bin/sh (FreeBSD) thinks it's ok and does nothing. > > > > Which behaviour is more POSIXly correct?

Re: empty lists in for

2000-03-05 Thread John Polstra
Doug Barton wrote: > > Agreed on all counts. By "this behavior" I was referring to the > example. Yep -- I was agreeing with you. :-) John To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: empty lists in for

2000-03-05 Thread Doug Barton
W Gerald Hicks wrote: > Even though it's my preferred shell, I certainly wouldn't say > that Bash is any sort of standard, certainly not in the POSIX > sense. Well, one of Chet's stated goals is to be as POSIX as possible. I agree that letting the standard speak for itself is a better id

Re: empty lists in for

2000-03-05 Thread W Gerald Hicks
From: Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > John Polstra already pointed this out, and Bash handles this like you > would expect. There is a difference between expanding an empty list and > trying to expand a list that isn't there. Convince me that nothing like the following exists in the por

Re: empty lists in for

2000-03-05 Thread Doug Barton
W Gerald Hicks wrote: > To me, changing it right now on the eve of -release > would be gratuitous. Later I would be fine with it. > > I still prefer /bin/sh being able to handle an empty > literal list but would yield to the desires of others. I think you misunderstand me. I'm not sugge

Re: empty lists in for

2000-03-05 Thread Chris Costello
On Saturday, March 04, 2000, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > Neither bash nor ksh claim to be particularly POSIX compliant. our > /bin/sh does. ksh doesn't claim to be POSIX compliant? "ksh is intended to conform to the Shell Language Standard developed by the IEEE POSIX 1003.2 Shell and Uti

Re: empty lists in for

2000-03-05 Thread Martin Cracauer
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Polstra wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Given that Bash in both standard and POSIX mode complains about 'for i > > in ; do echo $i; done', I would say that it's not POSIX compatible. What > > could/does d