Re: Some questions about kernel programming

2001-07-12 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Eugene L. Vorokov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010713 01:33] wrote: > Forgot to Cc: here: > > > You can't call kernel strlen on a userland address, you must do > > something like this: > > How so ? It seems to work for me. For instance, I used userland > address space buffer to simulate __getcwd() sys

Re: Some questions about kernel programming

2001-07-12 Thread Eugene L. Vorokov
Forgot to Cc: here: > You can't call kernel strlen on a userland address, you must do > something like this: How so ? It seems to work for me. For instance, I used userland address space buffer to simulate __getcwd() syscall on the current process (I was hacking open() syscall and log full path

Re: getting rid of sysinstall - Was: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral

2001-07-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 06:06:07PM +0100, Paul Robinson wrote: > On Jul 12, "Karsten W. Rohrbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > perl might be superior in features at first glance but it has > > serious deficiencies in the resulting code style, due to it's nature it > > not simply enables program

Re: Network performance tuning.

2001-07-12 Thread E.B. Dreger
> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 21:09:44 -0400 > From: Leo Bicknell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > http://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/sack.html H. I don't yet know enough about kernel architecture to know in advance how I'd fare trying to patch that into 4.x (I expect the line number to be off, obviously), but

Re: sound on IBM model T22 laptop

2001-07-12 Thread David E. Cross
It is definitely the powersaving/pci clkrun problem... as that is the only power change I made ;) -- David Cross | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lab Director | Rm: 308 Lally Hall Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, | Ph: 518.276.2860

Re: sound on IBM model T22 laptop

2001-07-12 Thread Cameron Grant
> What is the 'long term' fix? (and when will it be in -stable ;) the fix is in -current, assuming it is the powersaving/clkrun problem. mfc will be soon. -cg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: sound on IBM model T22 laptop

2001-07-12 Thread David E. Cross
Cool What is the 'long term' fix? (and when will it be in -stable ;) -- David Cross | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lab Director | Rm: 308 Lally Hall Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, | Ph: 518.276.2860 Department of

Re: sound on IBM model T22 laptop

2001-07-12 Thread Cameron Grant
> Any ideas what is going on here? Or what to try next? interrupt problem. turn off all powersaving in your bios setup, for now. -cg To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: sound on IBM model T22 laptop

2001-07-12 Thread David E. Cross
Hmm... an interesting followup to the laste email... a flood ping FROM the laptop TO another machine clears up the problem... a flood ping TO the laptop FROM another machine does nothing. I assumed this may have had something to do with context switches (or something)... so I did a 'while (tru

sound on IBM model T22 laptop

2001-07-12 Thread David E. Cross
Hello, sound is not working correctly on this IBM model T22 laptop. Specifically whenever sound plays it is very garbled. I can get it to play almost correctly via either 'ping -f somehost' or 'dd bs=512 if=/dev/zero of=foo.zero' (well, at least until the filesystem fills up ;) the ethernet c

Re: Network performance tuning.

2001-07-12 Thread Leo Bicknell
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 09:27:54PM -0500, Mike Silbersack wrote: > I'd like to do this also, provided that we also change the mbuf to cluster > ratio from 4/1 to 2/1. This will ensure that the doubled per-socket > memory usage doesn't cause systems to run out of clusters earlier than > before. T

Re: Network performance tuning.

2001-07-12 Thread Leo Bicknell
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 08:17:14PM -0600, Drew Eckhardt wrote: > You can reduce the window size with each ACK, although this is frowned > upon. There's "frowned upon" and "frowned upon". :-) For instance, if the only reason it's discouraged is because it causes connections to start running slow

Re: Some questions about kernel programming

2001-07-12 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Greg Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010712 21:08] wrote: > On Thursday, 12 July 2001 at 6:58:09 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Dear Friends > > > > I have some questions about kernel programming: > > You'd be better off sending mail like this to -hackers. I've followed > up there. I also go

Re: Network performance tuning.

2001-07-12 Thread Mike Silbersack
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Matt Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010712 20:28] wrote: > > Actually, we can shrink the window, but that's strongly discouraged > by a lot of papers/books. I doubt you really need to shrink the window ever - the fact that you've hit the mbuf limit

Re: Network performance tuning.

2001-07-12 Thread Mike Silbersack
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Matt Dillon wrote: > This is fairly easy to do for the transmit side of things and would > yield an immediate improvement in available mbuf space. For the receive > side of things we can't really do anything with existing connections > (because we've already

Re: Network performance tuning.

2001-07-12 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Matt Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010712 20:28] wrote: > > This is fairly easy to do for the transmit side of things and would > yield an immediate improvement in available mbuf space. For the receive > side of things we can't really do anything with existing connections > (beca

Re: Network performance tuning.

2001-07-12 Thread Drew Eckhardt
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ane.com writes: >This is fairly easy to do for the transmit side of things and would >yield an immediate improvement in available mbuf space. For the receive >side of things we can't really do anything with existing connections >(b

Re: Some questions about kernel programming

2001-07-12 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 12 July 2001 at 6:58:09 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dear Friends > > I have some questions about kernel programming: You'd be better off sending mail like this to -hackers. I've followed up there. > 1. Why I can call some system calls functions into the kernel but >anoth

Re: Network performance tuning.

2001-07-12 Thread Matt Dillon
I think the crux of situation here is that the correct solution is to introduce more dynamicy in the way the kernel handles buffer space for tcp connections. For example, we want to be able to sysctl net.inet.tcp.sendspace and recvspace to high values (e.g. 65535, 100) w

Re: Network performance tuning.

2001-07-12 Thread Leo Bicknell
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 05:55:39PM +0100, Paul Robinson wrote: > When I asked about SACK about 18 months ago (IIRC), the general consensus > was that it was a pile of crap, and that FBSD SHOULDN'T implement it if > possible. I however, agree that there are a lot of things in SACK that would > mass

Re: getting rid of sysinstall

2001-07-12 Thread Matt Dillon
:Actually, this is what I did for Google, we were able to have 40 machines :installed in about an hour: : :http://people.freebsd.org/~alfred/pxe/ : :-- :-Alfred Perlstein [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I did something similar at BEST, though back then it was a NFS bootp boot floppy.

Re: getting rid of sysinstall

2001-07-12 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Thierry Herbelot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010712 16:54] wrote: > Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > [SNIP] > > Actually, this is what I did for Google, we were able to have 40 machines > > installed in about an hour: > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~alfred/pxe/ > > > > -- > > -Alfred Perlstein [[EMA

Re: getting rid of sysinstall

2001-07-12 Thread Thierry Herbelot
Alfred Perlstein wrote: > [SNIP] > Actually, this is what I did for Google, we were able to have 40 machines > installed in about an hour: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~alfred/pxe/ > > -- > -Alfred Perlstein [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Ok, who wrote this damn function called '??'? > And why do my pr

Re: sysinstall - Was: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral

2001-07-12 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
"Karsten W. Rohrbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Giorgos Keramidas([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.07.10 05:13:44 +: > > Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > The base system is not registered into the packages > > > system, because of sysinstall. > > > > It's not installed from /usr

challenge, response, ssh, and a proposal

2001-07-12 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
Hey all... I have a quick question that I've scoured the net for and really can't find the answer to. It goes like this: When using a challenge/response based auth scheme, like s/key, opie, or a cryptocard, one first gets the challenge, then enters the response as their password. The issue wit

Re: mgetty+AutoPPP pointers?

2001-07-12 Thread Eric Masson
> "John" == John Reynolds writes: John> Hello all, Hello, this is no hacker material, this question should go to -questions or -stable. John> Does anybody have any bookmarked pointers to setting up John> mgetty+AutoPPP under FreeBSD -STABLE? Take a look at the handbook, especially topi

Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral

2001-07-12 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 09:56:58AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > Consider binary upgrades for things like security > alerts, which could happen automatically, based on > whatever criteria you specify (including "root exploit" > or "Never Do Anything Without My Permission"). In case you'd missed

Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral

2001-07-12 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 03:31:59AM -0400, Rajappa Iyer wrote: > Jordan Hubbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Well, I'd sorta like to *see* them before writing the coding > > equivalent of a blank check, but given reasonably functional > > implementations, sure, I'd be happy to commit your "sy

Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral

2001-07-12 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 09:29:27AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > > The base system is not registered into the packages > > > system, because of sysinstall. > > > > It's not installed from /usr/ports but from /usr/src. > > I don't know if it's a good idea to have a hug

Re: getting rid of sysinstall

2001-07-12 Thread Alfred Perlstein
* Nick Popoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [010712 14:30] wrote: > > "Karsten W. Rohrbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - - every class has properties which can be preloaded (unattended > > install functionality from 'recorded' install session or manually > > generated setup) > > - - remote install dial

Re: getting rid of sysinstall

2001-07-12 Thread Nick Popoff
"Karsten W. Rohrbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - - every class has properties which can be preloaded (unattended > install functionality from 'recorded' install session or manually > generated setup) > - - remote install dialog ui using ethernet as transport (yay!) would > be a nice idea Ho

Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral

2001-07-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 12:19:24PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > David O'Brien wrote: > > > 1)Soft Updates enabled on a root partition. > > > > > > This comes back to the old "you can't turn SU > > > on or off, except via tunefs". So even if you > > > boot via CDROM, it's to

Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral

2001-07-12 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Jul 10, 2001 at 05:13:44AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The base system is not registered into the packages > > system, because of sysinstall. > > It's not installed from /usr/ports but from /usr/src. > I don't know if it's a good idea

Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral

2001-07-12 Thread Terry Lambert
David O'Brien wrote: > > 1)Soft Updates enabled on a root partition. > > > > This comes back to the old "you can't turn SU > > on or off, except via tunefs". So even if you > > boot via CDROM, it's too late, if the CDROM > > kernel supports SU, since it's already on, a

Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral

2001-07-12 Thread Terry Lambert
Bill Moran wrote: > > > Are you saying you use DHCP for servers? If so, maybe > > > I should shut up and listen for a while because > > > apparently there's something here I can learn. DNSUPDAT: You DHCP server fixes up your DNS, so that your "FILESERVER1" is always "FILESERVER1", regardless of i

Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral

2001-07-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Jul 13, 2001 at 01:14:51AM +0700, Max Khon wrote: > hi, there! > > On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, David O'Brien wrote: > > > > 3)The default in 4.3-RELEASE is to have the IDE > > > write caching off. > > > > If you submit a patch to add the proper entries to /boot/loader.conf in > > the

kern.bootfile sysctl and installing new kernel

2001-07-12 Thread Jim Pirzyk
I though in the past when you installed a new kernel that the sysctl kern.bootfile was changed to be /kernel.old (this is under FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE), but looking at the makefile, this is no longer the case. Was this done for a reason? - JimP -- --- @(#) $Id: dot.signature,v 1.10 2001/05/17 2

Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral

2001-07-12 Thread Terry Lambert
Paul Robinson wrote: > > I guess you're wrong; it is actually easier to tell > > customers to use /stand/sysinstall for package management > > and configuration of /etc/rc.conf than having them attack > > delicate parts of the system with clumsy fingers. > > Never mind customers, I like to use it

Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral

2001-07-12 Thread Terry Lambert
Rahul Siddharthan wrote: > > Also, you should be aware that in commercial deployment, > > having a compiler on board the system is often considered > > a bad thing, as it permits entre to exploiters bringing > > their own programs onto the system. > > I've seen people disable compilers before, bu

Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral

2001-07-12 Thread Max Khon
hi, there! On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, David O'Brien wrote: > > 3) The default in 4.3-RELEASE is to have the IDE > > write caching off. > > If you submit a patch to add the proper entries to /boot/loader.conf in > the MFSROOT image, I'd commit it. This would ensure the installation > process alw

Re: ATAPI support

2001-07-12 Thread Mike Smith
> > We support ATAPI devices and has been for a long time (also CD burners)... > > I believe I forgot to do a group reply on my previous reply > to Søren. > > OK, it seems a misunderstanding of the term ATAPI. > The author of cdrecord, Joerg Schilling, told me - I will translate: > > Citation:

FreeBSD & Ad Hoc Networking

2001-07-12 Thread Terry Lambert
Bill Moran wrote: > Personally, I don't consider win98 a reference point > by which to model OS design. You are free to hold that opinion. We are not talking OS design, however, we are talking about participation in a network, and what constitutes a "good network citizen". > When you say win98

Re: Making an existing VMware virtual disk "dangerously dedicated"

2001-07-12 Thread Brian O'Shea
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 12:06:29PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > > maybe the server version confuses the bootblocks. > Does it think that it's ruinning headless? I don't think so. The BTX loader reports this: BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01

Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral

2001-07-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 10:32:32AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > 1)Soft Updates enabled on a root partition. > > This comes back to the old "you can't turn SU > on or off, except via tunefs". So even if you > boot via CDROM, it's too late, if the CDROM > kernel suppor

Re: Network performance tuning.

2001-07-12 Thread Leo Bicknell
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 01:50:05PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The window is there for flow control and data integrity. You seek to > undermine those concepts, which doesnt seem like a good idea for an "out of > the box" operating system Not at all. Nothing I've suggested removes the wi

Re: Network performance tuning.

2001-07-12 Thread Bsdguru
In a message dated 07/11/2001 7:51:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > So, bottom line, in the end I would like a FreeBSD host that out > of the box can get 2-4 MBytes/sec across country (or better), but > that manages it in such a way that your standard web server running

Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral

2001-07-12 Thread Terry Lambert
Bill Moran wrote: > OTOH: I don't see this as causing sysinstall's partition editor > to be bad/worthless. How many other installers allow partition > resizing (I don't know) Just add this feature (I'm not saying > it would be easy, I'm saying that it doesn't require scrapping > the existing syste

Changes in VM

2001-07-12 Thread Chad David
Can someone comment on when the major changes in the FreeBSD VM system took place? Was it in 2.x? Has much of the basic design changed since? Would I be correct in saying that most of the work was done by John Dyson and David Greenman with Matt Dillon getting heavily involved in the 3.x era? T

mail failed, returning to sender

2001-07-12 Thread daemon
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Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral

2001-07-12 Thread Terry Lambert
Terry Lambert wrote: > > David O'Brien wrote: > > There you go Terry, async mounts for installs. > > Thanks. > > This does not appear to work on upgrades for things > like /usr/ports. > > Now I will have to go find out why; how annoying: yet > more work. OK, I was right. The damn thing is no

Re: Making an existing VMware virtual disk "dangerously dedicated"

2001-07-12 Thread Julian Elischer
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Brian O'Shea wrote: I run FreeBSD under FreeBSD (for kernel debugging) it "just ran" after I installed it.. (of course it was they workstation version..) maybe the server version confuses the bootblocks. Does it think that it's ruinning headless? To Unsubscribe: sen

mgetty+AutoPPP pointers?

2001-07-12 Thread John Reynolds~
Hello all, I want to configure a server machine I have at home to answer a phone line via internal modem and setup a PPP connection to the "outside world" (the machine is connected via broadband) for a Win98 machine being the remote caller. I've read up a little on mgetty and its use of AutoPPP

Making an existing VMware virtual disk "dangerously dedicated"

2001-07-12 Thread Brian O'Shea
Hello, I have installed FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE in a VMware virtual machine (more background information[1] at the end of this message) and I've found that I can not boot the system without first booting from CD and then loading the kernel from the virtual disk. If I try to boot from the virtual dis

Re: getting rid of sysinstall - Was: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral

2001-07-12 Thread Paul Robinson
On Jul 12, "Karsten W. Rohrbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > perl might be superior in features at first glance but it has > serious deficiencies in the resulting code style, due to it's nature it > not simply enables programmers to do bad things[tm] but almost enforces > them to do so. A slo

Re: Network performance tuning.

2001-07-12 Thread Paul Robinson
On Jul 12, Julian Elischer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AND we still don't have a working standard SACK implementation. When I asked about SACK about 18 months ago (IIRC), the general consensus was that it was a pile of crap, and that FBSD SHOULDN'T implement it if possible. I however, agree tha

Re: Development for older FreeBSD releases

2001-07-12 Thread Nate Williams
> > Building a new development box from a set of 2.2.8 CDs would > > certainly be a simple and guaranteed method if that's an option > > for you. > > Unfortunately it's not guaranteed...a lot of new hardware has been > released since December 1998 (the date of 2.2.8-RELEASE). :-p Why is that im

Re: getting rid of sysinstall - Was: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral

2001-07-12 Thread Karsten W. Rohrbach
Paul Robinson([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.07.12 15:44:32 +: > On Jul 11, "Karsten W. Rohrbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > some rough and spontaneuos ideas: > > - stripped down python interpreter runs as init > > Wow. If you think about it, that's quite a big departure from where FBSD is >

Re: Intel ISP1100 or similar 1U experience with 4.3 stable

2001-07-12 Thread Paul Robinson
On Jul 11, Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The Appro 1124 is a nice box...although it's more expensive than the Sun > box. It's a nice 1U chasssis with four (4!) hot-swap drive bays and the > Tyan Athlon MP motherboard. http://www.appro.com/1124/index.html Can anybody please: 1. Confi

Re: [ANNOUNCE] SPY-1.1 - syscall monitoring kernel module

2001-07-12 Thread Andrew R. Reiter
I'd really be interested in the results from the kernel security BoF from USENIX (sine I missed it) and seeing how we can apply any of the resultant ideas into SPY, ie. utilize interfaces or styles. Anyone know where we could find the BoF information? Robert? Andrew On Wed, 11 Jul 2001, Andrze

Re: Fw: help me!!!!

2001-07-12 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 08:28:31PM +0530, srinivasarao wrote: > > -Original Message- > From: srinivasarao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:14 PM > Subject: help me > > > hi all, > i want to compile the seperate folder

Fw: help me!!!!

2001-07-12 Thread srinivasarao
  -Original Message-From: srinivasarao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:14 PMSubject: help me hi all, i want to compile the seperate folder instead of compiling the kernel . Is there any possibility like that..? Su

Re: getting rid of sysinstall - Was: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral

2001-07-12 Thread Paul Robinson
On Jul 11, "Karsten W. Rohrbach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > some rough and spontaneuos ideas: > - stripped down python interpreter runs as init Wow. If you think about it, that's quite a big departure from where FBSD is at the moment (or I'm missing the point). You might find a lot more peopl

Re: ATAPI support

2001-07-12 Thread Søren Schmidt
It seems Christoph Kukulies wrote: > On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 11:55:22AM +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote: > > > > *sigh* > > > > We support ATAPI devices and has been for a long time (also CD burners)... > > I believe I forgot to do a group reply on my previous reply > to Søren. > > OK, it seems a m

Re: ATAPI support

2001-07-12 Thread Christoph Kukulies
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 11:55:22AM +0200, Søren Schmidt wrote: > It seems Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > Question came up whether FreeBSD supports ATAPI. I thought so > > it came with the introduction of the ata drivers. I may be wrong. > > I just got stuck when reading a note about OSs that suppo

Re: ATAPI support

2001-07-12 Thread Søren Schmidt
It seems Christoph Kukulies wrote: > Question came up whether FreeBSD supports ATAPI. I thought so > it came with the introduction of the ata drivers. I may be wrong. > I just got stuck when reading a note about OSs that support ATAPI > and FreeBSD was listed as NO. > > (it's in the vein of CD w

ATAPI support

2001-07-12 Thread Christoph Kukulies
Question came up whether FreeBSD supports ATAPI. I thought so it came with the introduction of the ata drivers. I may be wrong. I just got stuck when reading a note about OSs that support ATAPI and FreeBSD was listed as NO. (it's in the vein of CD writers and ATAPI). -- Chris Christoph P. U. K

Re: Re. The Foundation [was Re: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral]

2001-07-12 Thread Julian Stacey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Justin wrote: > > I believe that all of the members of the Foundation's current board > are well known to the FreeBSD community. All 3 being Core Alumni: Jonathan M. Bresler, John D. Polstra, Justin T. Gibbs. > Having directors from outside the FreeBSD community will > broaden the perspective

Re: getting rid of sysinstall - Was: FreeBSD Mall now BSDCentral

2001-07-12 Thread Neil Blakey-Milner
On Wed 2001-07-11 (19:02), Karsten W. Rohrbach wrote: > Terry Lambert([EMAIL PROTECTED])@2001.07.09 13:29:23 +: > [...] > > > There are too many steps. > > > > X11 is a distribution set, instead of a package. > > > > Etc. (I could go on forever). > > > > ...then let's wrap up a concept of

Re: Intel ISP1100 or similar 1U experience with 4.3 stable

2001-07-12 Thread Bob Bishop
Hi, At 22:52 11/07/01 -0700, David Greenman wrote: >[...] > I'm not sure how this thread got moved to -hackers...it started out on >freebsd-isp and really does not belong on this list. It's of interest to -clusters too. I wouldn't have seen it on -isp -- Bob Bishop +44 (0)118

RE: Suggestions for sysinstall / disklabel

2001-07-12 Thread Koster, K.J.
Dear All, > > The Alpha's root *must* be the first partition > (starting at the > "begining" of the disk). People often know how much swap > they want, and > take what is left for other things. So they allocate swap first. > Sysinstall's disk editor gives no feedback on how it is going > to