() performance instead?
Perhaps the implementation on OpenBSD may be worse than ours, but
it may add features that help improve our performance further.
Certainly, both issues should be checked as broadly as possible.
--
Brad Knowles, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"They that can give up essential liberty
27;s slower (more or less, depending on which
benchmarks you believe).
But it is the best implementation that was available, and this is
-CURRENT, where things are expected to periodically be in a state of
flux while major changes are underway.
--
Brad Knowles, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
&
first place.
That all sounds wonderful!
So, when are you going to deliver this fully functioning and
debugged code for inclusion in FreeBSD-5.2?
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty
arm -- the delays waiting for responses from nameservers
will overwhelm any local delays caused by dynamic vs. static linking.
--
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
hy shouldn't we have it now?
--
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.
GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSH
and pathload. They're much better tools for getting
down into the nitty-gritty details of true network throughput and
bottleneck identification. Try using application-layer tools like
ftp at a later stage in the testing.
--
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"They that can g
read. Thank you!
--
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.
GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI$
more about the added controls you have
over this process because it's part of the kernel, as opposed to
operating in user space?
This is a serious question -- I don't understand, and I'd like to learn.
--
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"They that can give up
cement :-)
Or is this a kind of "enhanced 802.b" standart? Where can I read smth about
this?
See above.
--
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin F
ar for wireless networking cards. He's been trying to get
specs for 22mbps cards for years, and everything from every vendor
requires NDA, and the OEM manufacturer won't even talk to him.
If you find any open-source drivers for any 22mbps cards under
any OS, please let me know.
--
Brad K
Atheros chipset has any support under
*BSD. Broadcom won't release the details of their hardware access
layer (HAL) except under NDA. Are there any other 802.11g chipsets?
--
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporar
k stage; it would be obvious when the application
failed to link with lots of unresolved pthread symbols.
(*) Unless we want to support LD_PRELOAD being able
to change the threads library.
That would seem to be another reasonable option.
--
Brad Knowles, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"They tha
At 1:29 AM -0400 2003/09/21, Daniel Eischen wrote:
Can you add a "no -pthread" symbol to it?
I could do up an ash grey t-shirt with slightly modified graphics.
What would a "no -pthread" symbol look like?
--
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"They that can give
ed graphics I created for this shirt are
available at
<http://www.shub-internet.org/brad/pictures/FreeBSD-No-Bikeshed-R.png>
and
<http://www.shub-internet.org/brad/pictures/FreeBSD-No-Bikeshed-L.png>,
under the same "No Bikeshed" license under which PHK released the
ori
done as a port until such time as
it's fully ready to take over from the built-in gdb in the system.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin,
=cmvp.6951805>.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.
GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI$ P+>++
w.cafeshops.com/cp/prod.aspx?p=cmvp.6951805>.
YOU MAY NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES _EVER_ make it the subject of
a bikeshed discussion.
What about the color of the bikeshed? Can we make that an
allowed bikeshed discussion? ;-)
--
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"They that can giv
;t sure, but on thinking
about it some more, I felt more confident that you had meant
something else. I guess I over-analyzed your response.
I'll put the shirt back up in a few minutes.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
ate the source files from which I will work.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.
GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)&g
At 2:00 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Brad Knowles wrote:
Problem solved. See <http://www.cafeshops.com/cmvp.7534915>. Note
that these are being sold at cost (something any other CafePress
member can confirm).
Per PHK's request, I am taking this down.
The PNG version I cr
quickly take any image
you want and put it on a wide variety of different products from
t-shirts, hats, aprons, mugs, and a whole host of others.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty
The PNG version I created is at
<http://www.shub-internet.org/brad/pictures/freebsd-bikeshed.png>.
Enjoy...
I have interpreted your post to mean that it's okay for other
people to print up t-shirts, based on this image. However, if you
prefer that I take this down, just le
At 9:40 PM -0700 2003/08/23, Scott M. Likens wrote:
Also please teach your email client to word wrap. That's nasty.
According to your headers, you're using Ximian Evolution 1.4.4.
According to his headers, he's running Mutt/1.5.4i.
You tell me.
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ed it (even though that's also a risk), but I absolutely do not
want the code loaded unless I'm actually going to be making use of it.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty n
hen I put the IPv4 localhost first.
There is no IPv6 in this house, nor is there likely to be any
time soon. If I can't kill IPv6 from a configuration standpoint,
I'll go ripping out the freakin' code, or I'll use an OS that gives
me the option.
--
Brad Knowles, <[EMAI
ping client.
This would also allow you to apply the same solution for jail vs.
non-jail environments.
Is this a future enhancement that we can realistically look forward to?
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporar
day. Can you explain things to me, perhaps
in a somewhat simpler fashion, so that I might understand, and maybe
even help?
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benja
s card.
But still, no answers to this question. Unfortunately, just
Googling for "Belkin F5D5020 FreeBSD" doesn't do much good, as it
turns up many resellers of this card which claims that it works with
FreeBSD, or articles that happen to mention both FreeBSD and this
card
state of affairs on this subject,
especially as it related to FreeBSD or *BSD in general?
Thanks!
--
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, Historica
At 9:50 AM -0700 2003/06/22, Lars Eggert wrote:
Make the ReiserFS box an NFS server and mount it on FreeBSD to copy the
data over.
What if it's the same machine? What if they have only the one
machine, so they can't even copy it over to another one, just to copy
it back?
--
Br
nt to hold off on importing BIND 9
until after the looming CURRENT/STABLE transition, I have no problems
with that. However, I would like to see you update the web page you
previously mentioned.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a li
e to do with the status of
-CURRENT at the moment than it does with BIND 9.
Development is continuing on BIND 8 as well, thus the 8.4.x branch, which
includes IPv6 transport.
Very limited development. All primary development is being done
for BIND 9, and occasionally things are back-ported.
//www.isc.org/BINDForum/>)? Are you on the bind-workers
mailing list?
IMO, if you want to claim that BIND 9 isn't suitable for
production use, then I believe you should be prepared to help change
that situation.
--
Brad Knowles, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"They that can give up es
a -CURRENT?
Well, the same is true for BIND 9.
Indeed, I'd say that BIND 9 is much more mature and
production-ready than -CURRENT is most of the time (situations such
as the current transition where we're just about to make 5.x the new
-STABLE being the one exception I can think
produced by `gzip -9`.
Seeing as /usr/share/doc and /usr/share/info is not currently
compressed (in 4.6.2-RELEASE), any compression algorithm would be a
significant improvement.
--
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
At 2:42 PM -0800 2003/03/18, Terry Lambert wrote:
Make sense now?
No.
However, I am now convinced that I don't understand enough of how
the filesystem works to even be able to ask the simplest of questions
about how this process can be improved. So, I will now shut up.
--
Brad Kn
of not
finishing the last 30% of something?
Yes.
Can you substantiate this rather extreme claim? Can you point to
specific messages in the archives that demonstrate this?
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
saf
linear pass, and then you'd be done. If
you had one I/O process and multiple worker processes actually
scanning the CG maps and updating the second copy, this should just
absolutely *fly*.
What am I missing here?
--
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"They that can give up es
roblem can't be fixed by a simple cache. 8-(.
It seems to me that there could be a logical cache which could be
provided by the RAID code, which would sit above the physical block
locations, the mirrors of the blocks, the parity data, etc
Or is this the part that is provided by the
not
finishing the last 30% of something?
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.
GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>:
can't -- "ndc start" being one
of the big ones.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.
GCS/IT
r the BSD license, I'm sure that'd help him write a driver for
Linux, and he would be a very happy camper.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benj
sically remove all the i386 code from the 5.x tree.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.
GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>
e buying any of it.
Take some wool underwear with you if you go downstairs. ;-)
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, Historical Revi
seemed to be fine.
So, the interaction that I personally witnessed was specifically
between vinum RAID-5 and softupdates.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-B
to
break something!
Yeah, especially if it's UFS2, you're doing softupdates with
background fsck, and you've used vinum to build the large logical
volume. ;-)
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little tempo
... a
really big test set? Perhaps even set them up to run in continuous
mode, so as to really thrash your disks as much as possible as
quickly as possible?
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve nei
& softupdates have had bad interactions with each
other for as long as I can remember. Has this truly been a
consistent thing (as I seem to recall), or has this been an
on-again/off-again situation?
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"They that can give up essential liberty to
ion with the invited talks I did at LISA 2002 and BSDCon
Europe 2002, and people have repeatedly called me to task on this
issue.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
d (SMTP & POP3), smtp-sink & smtp-source
(SMTP transmit & receive), mstone (SMTP, POP3, IMAP, HTTP, etc...),
or perhaps others.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safe
being
able to run some comparison benchmarks on my test system here, but I
fear that I would not be able to help fix any problems that might be
identified.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither
any other benchmarks that are being considered? What
about LMBench? RawIO? Bonnie++? Other disk benchmarks? Do we care
about application-layer benchmarks for other protocols, such as SMTP,
POP3, or IMAP?
Just curious. Thanks!
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"They that
will
test compiling all code with full warnings and the optimizer?
Also, can someone explain to me what the heck a "zebra" is, in
this context?
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neith
through some kind of analysis
afterwards.
Ahh, I see.
Thanks again!
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvan
gs will
be needed (And I fear they will show a lot of interesting phenomena).
Hmm. I'd like to learn more about this tracelog concept. Can
you provide any pointers?
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little tempo
as we are reading it, so
you can't always take the data it prints out too literally? IMO,
that's a perfectly fine limitation to live with, for the results that
it allows us to get.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
sely* what I was thinking! I'm glad
someone else had the same idea
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylv
welcome)
This is queue depth versus latency, right? I don't suppose a
request to provide both would hold any weight with you, would it?
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither li
at
Diffie Hellman did, for which the patent expired a little while ago.
Did RC4 even exist at the time that Don published that book?
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.&qu
ce, too. I get impatient when
I've done things and I'm waiting on other people to respond.
I guess I'm just trying to find out what level of impatience
would be appropriate in this kind of situation -- given the amount of
time that had passed and the specific day and hours in quest
stioning the patch at all, just the apparent impatience.
If I am wrong and it is normal to expect a reasonable response
within this period of time and within this particular period of time
on a Saturday morning, please let me know.
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"They that can g
is feature in postfix,
short of stopping and starting the service.
However, I'll have to check the latest source code to be sure.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.&quo
ompiling the code (as would be necessary, since
386-compatible code would not be included in any of the regular
binaries), then there is no such thing as "pre-compiled" anything.
Morever, the concept of compiling something is mutually exclusive
to getting a pre-compiled copy of that s
solution, I
couldn't tell you how to replicate it.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.
GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)
ething like
32 hops away, and while his OS was fine, our particular patch
revision of HP-UX 9 was hard-coded at 30. We applied a later patch
to the machines, and everything went back to normal.
This is not a new problem. Unfortunately, many OSes may still
have inappropriate values defined.
NFS? So, you need a way to bootstrap the early parts of networking
before mounting the later filesystems.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Fran
etBSD
specific portions after 5.0?
Nope. It's nice to be as close as we can feasibly get, but if it
doesn't work then it doesn't work, and we shouldn't unnecessarily
handicap ourselves just to be compatible.
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"They that ca
sync with your
reference(s). It would be ntpdate that would be the potentially
dangerous one making large-scale changes to your system time.
Therefore, you definitely want the router stuff before the ntpd stuff.
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"They that can give up essential
le testing each component individually between
now and then should theoretically be doable in 10 tests (as
previously mentioned), the combinatorial explosion will be
exceptionally nasty.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporar
U workstaion at the office running
4.7-STABLE with an fxp0 NIC does not suffer the same throughput
reduction.
I've also heard of lots of problems with some machines when the
cable is too short, at least in certain combinations. Try
successively longer lengths of cable, at least up to 20-3
t handling
auto-detect in the same way.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania.
GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(
somewhere earlier, and they will be more difficult
to track down. Either that, or the problem is actually somewhere
else, and you're only seeing the results through your network
transfers.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a li
never any good reason to
have a case-sensitive file system." Can you believe that? I wrote back to
them and stated, "there is never any good reason to have a case-INsensitive
filesystem." But, of course, they never replied. :)
Try bitching at Jordan. Maybe he can get them to fix
(.
How about we do the safe thing, and only do background fsck if we
can prove that the system state is something where it would be
suitable? Or would that mean that we almost never do background fsck?
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"They that can give up essential liberty to
-CURRENT after the 5.0-RELEASE.
Better the devil you know than the devil you don't.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, Historical
x27;ll be running -DP2 on, and
given all the network problems I've had lately, I may need to also
connect it to the cisco ISDN/Ethernet router
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neith
LEASE.
These kinds of things get all that much more important when we're
talking about a -RELEASE coming up.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin F
lude a patch.
IMO, better would be to give the area to another person who is
suitably qualified, has the available cycles, and presumably already
has a commit bit.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deser
evelopment types to help us debug the problems and get
them sorted out -- we've got people who have hardware, and would be
more than willing to help test things out, but in the past they
haven't gotten much help from the developers.
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"They
e
that we can help make this a much more successful project.
Your assistance in this effort would be greatly appreciated.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.&qu
connected, is authoritative.
Sorry, I wasn't think of transient networks. Indeed, that does
make things a lot uglier. I'll have to think some more about all the
various implications, however.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obta
ormation is the
same. You could also use BIND 9 "views". Otherwise, split-horizon
can be a pain.
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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin
nd
start one named for each config, or something.
Yeah, I was definitely thinking of a much more general solution.
IMO, the switch should either be "One" or "Many", with perhaps an
easy way to degenerate a "Many" solution to more easily serve the
"One"
At 9:11 AM +0100 2002/11/18, David Holm wrote:
BTW, why hasn't anyone set the mailing list to automatically set the reply-to
address to [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
<http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html>.
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"They that can give u
e to create yet
another MySQL database that *was* in the proper format. This would
likely lead to synchronization problems, etc
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on our
production systems, but you'd better be prepared to deal with any
problems that may occur if you want to do the same. Otherwise, you
shouldn't be running a snapshot version.
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ushed (which now makes postfix more suitable
for use at an ISP that provides backup MX services for its customers).
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e is switch back to using a real
uniprocessor kernel, and then see if I could replicate the problems.
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thing I can do to help?
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or the SmartRAID V
were only "beta" quality), and simply use vinum instead. However, if
this card is better supported than I first thought, then I'll be glad
to keep it. ;-)
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are really and truly completely full on that device.
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ent state of
that project is? Thanks!
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27;re waiting for me on this, you might want to buy your
burial plot now and go ahead and make all your final arrangements --
you're going to be waiting for a while. ;-)
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create an
open source version of something similar to perforce? ;-)
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Systems
ind I think I'll continue to
track RELENG_4 and listen over here to get some idea of what may be
ultimately coming down the pike over there for -STABLE.
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These are my opinions -- not to be taken as official Skynet policy
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