Re: [Foundation-l] Call for POTY Helpers and Translators

2012-04-07 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Will you use the Translate extension for translations or will you just ask the translators to do it old-style? Please consider the extension - it's far more convenient for the translators and for the managers. It's already installed in Meta. 06.04.2012 6:42 пользователь "Mono" написал: > Hello Wi

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-14 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/3/14 David Gerard : > On 14 March 2012 05:16, Béria Lima wrote: > >> I will actually look for a copy of the 15th edition (for sentimental >> reasons) to buy before they get too rare and too expensive :D Of course I >> will miss it! If Britannica is gone we will need to start printing >> Wikip

Re: [Foundation-l] Stopping the presses: Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-13 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/3/14 Samuel Klein : > "Today our digital database is much larger than what we can fit in the > print set. And yet the article "Gesenius, Heinrich Friedrich Wilhlem" has 745 words in the 1911 print edition and 175 in the current online edition. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרו

Re: [Foundation-l] Why is Arbcom is actively promoting Wikipedia Review?

2012-03-11 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Or, more precisely, the English Wikipedia list: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l . This list is for movement-wide issues. An ArbCom exists only in some language projects and is not a movement-wide issue. 2012/3/11 Gerard Meijssen : > Hoi, > This would in my opinion be more a

Re: [Foundation-l] Pre-wikis vs. maturing Wikipedia: taking away dedicated editors?

2012-03-06 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/3/7 Marcin Cieslak > I researched recently some material related to a recent catastrophic > event in Polish railway history[1] and I found out that volunteers > who traditionally dealt with railway matters on Polish Wikipedia > have virtually disappeared. Thought provoking, thanks a lot for

Re: [Foundation-l] Foursquare ditches Google Maps for OpenStreetMap

2012-03-01 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/3/1 David Gerard : > Other companies doing similarly: > > http://blog.nestoria.co.uk/why-and-how-weve-switched-away-from-google-ma > http://www.fubra.com/blog/2011/11/24/google-maps-free-alternatives/ ... And, in case anybody missed this piece of news, so will Wikimedia's official mobile app

Re: [Foundation-l] A discussion list for Wikimedia (not "Foundation") matters

2012-03-01 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/3/1 David Gerard : > On 1 March 2012 10:23, Strainu wrote: > >> If names are that important for you, go ahead and rename foundation-l, >> but there is really no need for yet another list. > > > +1 > > Adding a new list would be largely redundant. Another +1. There just aren't so many Founda

Re: [Foundation-l] Communicating effectively: Wikimedia needs clear language now

2012-02-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2012/2/18 Steven Walling : > Seems like a Catch-22 to me: documents about what we do at the Foundation > are sometimes not plainly understandable, and yet you can't make them > understandable unless you know what it is you're supposed to be describing. It doesn't have to be based on external sourc

[Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikimediaindia-l] Improving outreach efforts in India

2012-02-15 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
See below for a great presentation of problems in conducting outreach events and wiki workshop by Nitika Tandon. It discusses events in India, but most of it is relevant for the whole world. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces

[Foundation-l] RFC: local mirrors for cheaper and faster access

2012-01-20 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Apparently, in the Sakha Republic in Eastern Russia, browsing sites connected to the republic's network is cheap or free according to the plan's the ISPs offers, while browsing sites outside the republic costs more. So people often choose to read local news and forums and request information from e

Re: [Foundation-l] Duolingo, potential way of getting good quality translations?

2012-01-16 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
It is not 280+ languages, but it is more than English to Spanish and most likely more languages can be added. I already tried using it to study German, and i was very positively impressed with their nice exercise system. My guess is that at a later stage they'll want to employ crowdsourcing techni

Re: [Foundation-l] A fundraiser for editors

2012-01-02 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I tend to agree. At times of Fundraising, public interest grows noticeably. People have been asking me aobut the banners almost every day for the last few weeks. (A few times they even asked me whether they are going to see a personal appeal from Amir Aharoni soon.) I don't think that i ever saw a

Re: [Foundation-l] Blink tag jokes are now obsolete.

2011-12-31 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/12/31 geni : > We appear to have actual blinking ads. Unfortunate. Still I suppose > the occasion should be marked. They are not blinking in a manner that is even remotely obnoxious. And they are also used for displaying bilingual messages, which is very useful for areas in which you can't be

[Foundation-l] We now accept $$$

2011-12-06 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
The popular Russian blogger Artemy Lebedev [1] is known for changing the title of his blog every few days. Usually it is a line from spam emails. The current title is the translation into Russian of "We now accept rubles (RUB)", most likely taken from the Wikipedia fundraising banners. Lebedev als

Re: [Foundation-l] Error message

2011-11-27 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/11/28 Dirk Franke : > Seriously: Could we please create something like the Twitter Fail Whale? > Maybe a Sad Jimbo? Could help fundraising as well.. Scattered pieces of the puzzle globe. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in piece

Re: [Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

2011-10-29 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Getting the dreaded community consensus for useful features and fixes is indeed a painful experience and i'm not joking. One way to counter it is to present the communities with results of research that has been conducted and shown that these features actually achieve something positive. Was such

Re: [Foundation-l] On certain shallow, American-centered, foolish software initiatives backed by WMF

2011-10-29 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/10/29 Ryan Kaldari : > I don't think that's accurate. WikiLove only has a single bug filed > against it, and it's just a feature request: > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=WikiLove&list_id=42901 Well, since you complained, here's another one: https://bugzi

Re: [Foundation-l] 6 reasons we're in another book-burning period in history

2011-10-14 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/10/14 David Gerard > > I love Cracked. It's Wikipedia with dick jokes. > > http://www.cracked.com/article_19453_6-reasons-were-in-another-book-burning-period-in-history_p2.html > > To be ha ha only serious for a moment, this touches on why we all > bother doing this. It depressed me. Thank y

Re: [Foundation-l] Blanking a Wikipedia, a very bad idea

2011-10-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/10/4 emijrp > > Hi all; > > The events regarding Italian Wikipedia blanking[1][2] of all its content are > a serious precedent IMHO. They can make a lot of noise using other > procedures, like a big blinking site notice, but giving no choice to read > the content is against the main goal of W

Re: [Foundation-l] Minor projects withering and dying? Really?

2011-09-13 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/9/13 David Richfield : >> I am not a Wictionary contributor but I was never able to understand why >> we have Wictionaries in different language, though a big part of those seem >> to be translations on other languages, and they overlap. Would it not be >> advantageous to have just one Wiction

Re: [Foundation-l] Minor projects withering and dying? Really?

2011-09-13 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/9/13 David Richfield : > I don't think that means the projects are dying: I'm an infrequent > contributor to both of those projects, and every time I go there, > they're better. Absolutely true. In the last year or so i've been using English, Dutch, French, Spanish, Polish, Czech, Lithunian a

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement Roles: my suggestion of "Language Contact Persons"

2011-08-14 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Let me start by saying that Ziko's "Tell us about your Wikipedia" project was wonderful and i really expect its second edition. If Ziko or someone else doesn't beat me to it, i'll probably just create one myself, with additional questions that interest me ;) I support the idea of language contact

Re: [Foundation-l] Pending Changes development update: September 27

2011-08-02 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/8/2 Yaroslav M. Blanter : > Any chance it would be agreed in the future? There are at least three > working versions on big projects, German, Polish, and Russian Wikipedias > (though I believe in Russian Wikipedia it was recently killed by users > trying to set records and consequently reviewi

Re: [Foundation-l] List of Wikimedia projects and languages

2011-07-12 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/7/12 Milos Rancic > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:16, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > So you understand what a macro language is. Why the kicking then ? > > Because the category is comparable with the categorization of animals > in encyclopedia Celestial Emporium of Benevolent Knowledge [1]. It

Re: [Foundation-l] List of Wikimedia projects and languages

2011-07-11 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/7/11 Thomas Goldammer > > How many people don't > > understand any Wikipedia today? > > Of those who can read at all, probably much less than 1%. The problem > are those people who can't read. For persons who can't read it's far better to learn reading first in their own language. -- Amir E

Re: [Foundation-l] List of Wikimedia projects and languages

2011-07-11 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/7/11 Thomas Goldammer > > It won't be possible to save languages going extinct. Even if two or > three people start writing a Wikipedia in such a language, it will die > out as a spoken language, eventually, not later than it would without > a Wikipedia. I think it's nice to have a corpus of

Re: [Foundation-l] List of Wikimedia projects and languages

2011-07-10 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/7/10 Milos Rancic : > and one in revived language (Manx). Ahem. The definition of a "revived language" is very controversial, but if you count them, don't forget Hebrew (120,000+ articles) and Cornish (2,000+ articles). -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wor

Re: [Foundation-l] Languages and numbers

2011-07-02 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/7/1 Milos Rancic : > As Russia is fairly developed country, it is likely that reaching people > who speak those languages and teaching them how to use Wikimedia > projects would the task for WM RU. Besides that, I think that all > languages of Russia have writing systems and support in Unicode

Re: [Foundation-l] Languages and numbers

2011-07-01 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/7/1 Yaroslav M. Blanter : > Adyge is almost > identical to Kabardino-Circassian, and Adyge speakers probably will never > have their own Wikipedia. From what i hear about this, Adyge and Kabardian may be two varieties of a Circassian [[macrolanguage]]. Maybe someone who cares about it will su

Re: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

2011-06-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/6/17 Peter Gervai : > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 15:24, Amir E. Aharoni > wrote: >> In such cases, as an Israeli saying goes, i am right, but i am not >> clever. It hurts that person and it hurts the project, because that >> person may otherwise be a very valuable con

Re: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

2011-06-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/6/17 Lodewijk : > I guess that Amir was rather referring to the cultural aspect than the legal > aspect. You guessed correctly. > Amir, is there a specific background that you are thinking of which is why > you are asking this? Maybe that helps people answering your question. Nothing in par

Re: [Foundation-l] Election results?

2011-06-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/6/17 Austin Hair : > It's now the afternoon of the 17th (UTC), and this list—of which I > have the dubious distinction of being custodian—hasn't seen a single > thread about the WMF board election results. > > I'm honestly not sure if I should be proud of or disappointed with you > guys. Prou

Re: [Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

2011-06-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/6/17 Strainu : > I think that such a policy could not be fundamentally different in > other languages, since they all have the same license. However, the > wording could be improved, for instance by explaining WHY one cannot > consider himself as the owner of an article: by accepting the CC-BY

[Foundation-l] content ownership in different projects

2011-06-17 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
The problem of content ownership hits any wiki at some point. In the English Wikipedia it is governed by a policy called "WP:OWN" [1]. There's a similar policy in the Hebrew Wikipedia. Is this policy any different in other projects? I am asking, because i agree with the English Wikipedia's policy

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikis and the direction hardware is taking

2011-06-12 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/6/12 David Gerard : > On 11 June 2011 00:27,   wrote: > >> You are third person to respond as if my email was about me personally >> looking for help editing. And the second to snip my writing out of all >> context.  Steven seemed to actually get what my concern was.  You can hate >> whatev

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikis and the direction hardware is taking

2011-06-10 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/6/10 : > In setting up my iPad this is what shocked me. > It is near impossible to edit a wiki. Well that wasn't > to worrisome. I figured "there's an app for that". I hate the whole idea of "apps" for accessing websites through iPhone, iPad, Android, OVI or whatever. And i hate it with a p

[Foundation-l] Elections email

2011-06-10 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hallo, I just received an email (see below) that invites me to participate in the elections. There are several technical issues with it: 1. I already voted. It may be a good idea to send this only to people who didn't. 2. The subject says "2009". 3. The email is sent in English and Hebrew. I d

Re: [Foundation-l] deleting old versions of fair-use files

2011-05-30 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/5/31 Michael Snow : > On 5/30/2011 2:32 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >> Hello, >> >> There's a bit of discussion about deleting old versions of fair-use >> files in the Hebrew Wikipedia and it may be interesting to other >> projects as well. >> >

[Foundation-l] deleting old versions of fair-use files

2011-05-30 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hello, There's a bit of discussion about deleting old versions of fair-use files in the Hebrew Wikipedia and it may be interesting to other projects as well. The main questions is: Should old versions of fair-use files be deleted? The two main points that support the deletion are that it saves sp

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

2011-05-22 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/5/22 Thomas Morton : > Supreme Deliciousness, whose actions are being discussed... > > I noted that he hadn't been told so dropped him a note as common courtesy. Oh. This initialism may be well-known to some English Wikipedia editors, but not to all of them, and certainly not to all members

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

2011-05-22 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/5/22 Thomas Morton : > Has anyone notified SD about this discussion? Pretty much essential given > the allegations made by Dror K (which are clearly unfounded, but may be > damaging). Notified whom? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com "We're livi

Re: [Foundation-l] Stalking on Wikipedia

2011-05-22 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/5/22 Ryan Lomonaco : > That said, to me, I don't see any stalking whatsoever. It is common when > investigating sockpuppets to send evidence privately to other trusted users, > so that the (suspected) sockpuppeteer does not change their habits to avoid > detection. I don't see any other evid

[Foundation-l] translating POTY

2011-05-19 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I asked this in another thread, but didn't get a response. The POTY banner appears on English-language projects. Why wasn't there a request to translate it as it usually happens with such banners? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com "We're living in pi

Re: [Foundation-l] CentralNotice use

2011-05-19 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/5/19 church.of.emacs.ml > > Hi all, > > Do we have any guidelines limiting the use of CentralNotices? I noticed > there are a lot lately (fundraising, wikimania and most recently board > elections and commons POTY), some of which are not of much interest to > the audience. ... And since you

Re: [Foundation-l] Editor survey - finished?

2011-04-27 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/4/27 Daniel ~ Leinad : >> Is it disabled? I don't remember any notice about it. > > Yes, survey campaign is inactive: > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralNotice Thank you... is there any way i could know it? I volunteered to help with it and it would be nice to know when i could s

[Foundation-l] Editor survey - finished?

2011-04-27 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I unofficially appointed myself to be the "Editor Survey ambassador" to the Hebrew Wikipedia. For a few days i helped people fill it and gathered some feedback. Now people are complaining that they can't see the banner. I tried telling them to clean the cookies and it didn't help; i tried it mysel

[Foundation-l] "How many articles have you created?"

2011-04-09 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Being a linguist i am often asked how many languages do i speak. I don't like that question, because that's not exactly what Linguistics is about. Being a Wikipedian i am often asked how many articles did i write. I don't like that question either, because most work on Wikipedia is about improving

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-09 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/4/8 Dror Kamir : > Had someone > followed the administrators' decisions on the biggest projects, and > publish a monthly newsletter with copies of the most prominent decisions > about bans and sanctions, it would increase transparency and make > administrators much more careful about checking

Re: [Foundation-l] Vector, a year after

2011-04-05 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/4/4 Rodan Bury : > As for the quantitative analysis, the one made during the beta testing of > Vector was detailed. It clearly showed that most users - and especially > newbies - preferred Vector over Monobook (retention rates of 70 - 80 % and > more). It means that for most people Vector was

Re: [Foundation-l] Foundation too passive, wasting community talent

2011-04-05 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/4/5 David Gerard > > On 5 April 2011 03:02, MZMcBride wrote: > > > A lot of the projects that Wikimedia is investing in today are small and > > focused on particular needs of the Wikimedia Foundation, not the Wikimedia > > community. One example might be an article feedback tool that's large

Re: [Foundation-l] Vector, a year after

2011-04-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/4/4 David Gerard > > On 4 April 2011 16:20, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > > > I understand that WMF's resources are limited, but the development and > > the deployment of Vector did cost some money and also forced a lot of > > volunteers in English and in all

Re: [Foundation-l] Vector, a year after

2011-04-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/4/2 Rodan Bury : > The analysis of the qualitative and quantitative results of the Usability > Initiative is not a question anybody can answer. Comments like "I personally > prefer monobook" (fictional example) does not help to make an analysis based > on facts. > > Erik Möller's answer is pro

Re: [Foundation-l] LiquidThreads redesign?

2011-04-02 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/4/2 Erik Moeller : > It's not getting the resource push it would need to reach major > milestones quickly -- just because we don't have the resources (see > [1] for where most resources are going and why). But the work is > continuing and we'll be able to ramp up resourcing if/when we progress

[Foundation-l] Vector, a year after

2011-03-31 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
The Vector skin, the main product of the Usability Initiative, was deployed on Wikimedia projects in April 2010. Quoting usability.wikimedia.org: "The goal of this initiative is to measurably increase the usability of Wikipedia for new contributors by improving the underlying software on the basis

Re: [Foundation-l] Editors survey and gender

2011-03-24 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Arthur, thank you so much for this reply! The Hebrew translation of the survey is practically complete. It would take us just a few minutes to create a version for women, who will, without doubt, appreciate it. (There are women among the translators, too.) If there's a chance that it will be used,

Re: [Foundation-l] keeping localization in mind

2011-03-23 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/3/23 Ryan Kaldari : > On 3/23/11 6:17 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >> ==WikiLove, Twinkle and Huggle== >> Sue mentions the WikiLove gadget in her letter. To the best of my >> knowledge WikiLove only works in the English Wikipedia, but the letter >> invites all reade

Re: [Foundation-l] interwiki links

2011-03-23 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/3/23 WereSpielChequers : > But how would this process handle situations such as the EN wiki > article [[David Armstrong-Jones, Viscount Linley]] having an interwiki > link to the DE article on his late mother? Currently this comes up as > a death anomaly because one is living but the other dec

[Foundation-l] please announce translations earlier

2011-03-23 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
... And continuing with the previous theme of translation: Please announce the need for translating texts such as surveys, sitenotices, fundraising and long announcements (such as the recent Sue's letter) earlier. MUCH earlier. For quite a lot of languages, even languages with millions of monoling

[Foundation-l] keeping localization in mind

2011-03-23 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
In the last few months i was deeply involved with several big translation projects for Wikimedia: The Fundraising, Sue's March Update letter, and the Editor's survey. What's common to all of them is that the original English texts were written without keeping localization in mind, or maybe not kee

Re: [Foundation-l] Editors survey and gender

2011-03-22 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
ewrite questions with options for both gender? For example, > he/she. > Thanks > Mani > > Mani Pande, PhD > Head of Global Development Research > Wikimedia Foundation > Twitter: manipande > Skype: manipande > > > On 3/22/11 4:17 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >> What

[Foundation-l] Editors survey and gender

2011-03-22 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
What i say here about Hebrew may be useful for many other languages, too. I am translating the Editors survey into Hebrew. The survey is written as a long series of questions in the second person ("you"). In Hebrew the second person is very gender-dependent - the wording is significantly different

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects

2011-03-21 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/3/21 Gerard Meijssen : > On 21 March 2011 20:40, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: > >> Milos Rancic, 19/03/2011 10:45:> >> > And there are three new Wikisource editions: >> > * Wikisource in Sakha language [9]: http://sah.wikisource.org/ >> > * Wikisource in Sanskrit [10]: http://sa.wikisource.org

Re: [Foundation-l] wiki for interwiki (was: Foundation too passive)

2011-03-21 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/3/21 Gerard Meijssen : > Hoi, > One technical resource lacking is time. The 1.17 code is not stable enough > for a full release. There is a lot of code that wants to go into 1.18 and > until new releases are going to appear regularly a lot of stuff will > continue to wait for it to happen. At

Re: [Foundation-l] wiki for interwiki (was: Foundation too passive)

2011-03-21 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/3/21 Marcus Buck > > An'n 21.03.2011 09:27, hett Andre Engels schreven: > > I guess I'm awfully inadequate at that then... Moving interwikis to a > > separate site is something that I first proposed back in 2002 > > (although then saying it was 'something for the (far?) future'), that > > has

Re: [Foundation-l] Editor Survey, 2011

2011-03-14 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/3/11 Dario Taraborelli : >> The simple answer: Maybe, but how could i know that? >> >> The smartass answer: Maybe, but how could i know that after clicking >> 'Next' i wouldn't be presented with a stupid JavaScript error message, >> punishing me for clicking 'Next' before filling the required

Re: [Foundation-l] Editor Survey, 2011

2011-03-11 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/3/11 Nikola Smolenski : > On 03/11/2011 10:52 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >> I noticed the "Take a WMF-sponsored survey on barriers to expert >> participation in Wikipedia." banner on the top of English Wiktionary >> the other day. I clicked it and answered a

Re: [Foundation-l] Editor Survey, 2011

2011-03-11 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/3/11 Mani Pande : > > >> MzMcBride wrote: > >> "After having looked at the survey content, the survey software, and the >> survey format (particularly the length), I have very, very low confidence >> that anything of value will come from this (beyond lessons of what not to do >> next time)." >

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF 2015 strategic plan and multilingualism

2011-03-05 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/3/5 Casey Brown : > All translation work is done by volunteers, and who were we to say > "your language isn't as important, we'd rather you translate into X", > especially if we hadn't really researched how to make those priority > lists?  If you translate something into Hopi, Kunama, Irish, o

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF 2015 strategic plan and multilingualism

2011-03-05 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/3/5 Teofilo : > The fact that > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Communications_subcommittees/Trans#Core_set_of_languages > is now marked as "obsolete" disappoints me. It seems to mean that > multilingualism has been rejected. This is an interesting idea that should be revived. Put mildly, Wi

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikisource's translation efforts, Babel and Translate extensions

2011-03-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
> John Vandenberg commented recently that Wikisource has been looking to > have the Babel extension installed, and Siebrand notes the Translate > extension is ready for wider use, say on Meta or Mediawiki.org: Babel is great and i'd love to see it enabled everywhere, but there's a little odd bug t

Re: [Foundation-l] retire the administrator privilege

2011-03-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/3/4 Ray Saintonge : > On 03/03/11 5:44 AM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >> The name "administrator" gives the impression of some mythical >> "balance of power", although administrators don't actually >> administrate - they (un)delete, (un)block and (

Re: [Foundation-l] retire the administrator privilege

2011-03-03 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/3/3 Samuel Klein : > Amir writes: >> Now i, in general, think that these permissions should be given >> liberally to as many reasonable Wikimedians as possible. > >> In fact it's quite likely that communities will want to give as little >> permissions as possible to users. > > Can you explain

[Foundation-l] Language committee meeting in May - open discussion

2011-03-01 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Hello all, The Wikimedia Language committee members are going to meet in May. I created a new page in Meta for the open discussion of this meeting: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_committee/May_2011_meeting Everyone is welcome to influence this meeting by proposing to discuss. Please edi

[Foundation-l] for those of you who don't follow the PHD comics

2011-02-24 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
http://www.phdcomics.com/comics.php?f=1422 -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com "We're living in pieces,  I want to live in peace." - T. Moore ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Uns

Re: [Foundation-l] Document Foundation fundraising

2011-02-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/2/18 David Gerard : > On 18 February 2011 15:15, Milos Rancic wrote: > >> While it is likely that they will achieve $50.000 somehow [1], it >> would be good that WMF (1) donate them some sum of money and (2) to >> cover the remainder, if they would have any. > > It's a good cause, but doesn't

Re: [Foundation-l] Showing the difference between the sexes

2011-02-15 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/2/12 Gerard Meijssen : > Given that we want to be more welcoming to women, I think it is awesome that > we will be able to address women as women. The fact that we gain some > statistical insight is a fringe benefit. > > The only question left is, when can this be implemented.. I raised this

Re: [Foundation-l] [Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Planned 1.17 deployment on February 8]

2011-02-08 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/2/10 Liam Wyatt : > On 09/02/2011, at 4:35, Guillaume Paumier wrote: > >> Le mardi 08 février 2011 à 22:48 +0530, Bartol Flint a écrit : >>> >> >>> Is there someplace I can follow what the status is - like on twitter?? >> >> A public status dashboard is available at http://status.wikimedia.or

[Foundation-l] "share in Facebook/Twitter/etc" icon

2011-02-07 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
User:HalanTul from the Sakha Wikipedia asked me to ask about this here. The writers of the Sakha Wikipedia want to add icons to "share in Facebook/Twitter/etc" to some articles to promote the project, but they are concerned about the legal and ideological implications of such a move: Doesn't putti

[Foundation-l] Usability wiki

2011-01-29 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
The main page of the Usability wiki ( http://usability.wikimedia.org ) says that it's discontinued and the whole wiki appears to be locked for editing. I don't remember this being discussed, although i may have missed it. I understand that after completing the Vector rollout and the using up of th

Re: [Foundation-l] Since Egypt has shutdown internet, should we too?

2011-01-28 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/1/28 David Gerard : > The idea of getting samizdat copies of Wikipedia into Egypt appeals. > Airlift in current-article dumps of ar:wp and en:wp on SD cards by the > thousand? Don't forget arz.wikipedia. It's small, but shouldn't be ignored. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנ

Re: [Foundation-l] Translatewiki illustrates how low internationalisation is in the priorities of the Wikimedia Foundation

2011-01-27 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/1/27 Teofilo : > Before Translatewiki existed it was possible for Wikimedia/Wikipedia > users to improve the translation of the Mediawiki software's message > used on their project into their own language. > > It is no longer possible now, As Chad said, it's still possible and it's often done

Re: [Foundation-l] retire the administrator privilege

2011-01-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/1/18 Sage Ross : > On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Amir E. Aharoni > wrote: >> >> That's the point - i do think that it's a Foundation-level issue, or >> more precisely, movement-level issue. That's because "RFA is broken" >> discussion

Re: [Foundation-l] retire the administrator privilege

2011-01-16 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/1/16 Joseph Seddon > > I am going to be quite frank and say that it is pointless to have this > discussion on this list. Only a fraction of the english wikipedia community > are on it. If you are genuinely serious about this then propose it on the > english wikipedia. This is not a foundation

Re: [Foundation-l] retire the administrator privilege

2011-01-16 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/1/16 Yaroslav M. Blanter : > >> Nope, it doesn't have to be this way. There should be no "full admins" >> and "partial admins"; there should be no "admins" at all. There should >> be people who protect pages and people who block vandals. Some people >> may have both permissions. >> > > The sug

Re: [Foundation-l] retire the administrator privilege

2011-01-16 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
1/16 Thomas Dalton : > On 16 January 2011 07:45, Amir E. Aharoni > wrote: >> What they do in the Portuguese Wikipedia is not what i propose; it's >> only close to it. What's listed at [[en:Wikipedia:Perennial >> proposals]] is very different from what i p

Re: [Foundation-l] retire the administrator privilege

2011-01-15 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/1/16 Thomas Dalton : > On 15 January 2011 21:55, Amir E. Aharoni > wrote: >> Before writing that proposal i reviewed many, many pages of "RFA is >> broken" discussions not just in the English Wikipedia, but in Hebrew, >> Russian and Catalan ones, too. Nowhe

Re: [Foundation-l] Happy Birthday Wikipedia, from Jimmy Wales

2011-01-15 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/1/15 Magnus Manske : > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Jay Walsh wrote: >> Birthday wishes from Jimmy on our blog, with embedded video greetings. > > Implemented as Flash. Oh the irony ;-) A web video without patent restrictions: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WalesCalltoAction.ogv

Re: [Foundation-l] retire the administrator privilege

2011-01-15 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2011/1/15 geni : > On 15 January 2011 15:26, Amir E. Aharoni > wrote: > >> Now, fight. > >  First review the discussion that has already taken place at WT:RFA I suppose that you refer to the English Wikipedia. This list is about more than just the English Wikipedia.

[Foundation-l] retire the administrator privilege

2011-01-15 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
In his 10th anniversary address Jimmy Wales says: "Today is a great moment to reflect on where we've been." What my reflection brings up is that the single thing that probably raised more controversy among the widest range of Wikimedians is not the content of articles about sex, celebrities or geo

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki[p/m]edia

2010-12-11 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2010/12/11 Federico Leva (Nemo) : >> Say the projects were all renamed.  Great.  What's changed?  Only the name >> on each page and likely the logo in the upper left.  Will the smaller >> projects magically get more readers and editors and Google page rank?  No. > > In fact the proposers of renamin

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki[p/m]edia

2010-12-10 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I also think that it is worth considering and that it's not a suicide, although other opinions are welcome. I am mostly active in Wikipedia, but i am also quite active in Wikisource and Commons. I wouldn't be offended if Wikisource's name would change. When i talk about my biggest Wikisource proje

[Foundation-l] the only site in the top X sites that doesn't sell you anything

2010-12-09 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Quite a lot of people know that Wikipedia is one of the 10 most popular sites in the world. Much less people notice that among the most popular Wikipedia is the only one that doesn't sell them anything: Google has Adwords, Microsoft sells its products and all the other websites have advertising ba

Re: [Foundation-l] excluding Wikipedia clones from searching

2010-12-08 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 15:42, Fred Bauder wrote: > > If the copyright license has been followed -wikipedia should exclude all > clones. However, often, material is copied without crediting it to > Wikipedia. Yes, but that may also exclude sites that are useful and original, but happen to mention

[Foundation-l] excluding Wikipedia clones from searching

2010-12-08 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
The "Google test" used to be a tool for checking the notability of a subject or to find sources about it. For some languages it may be also used for other purposes - for example in Hebrew, the spelling of which is not established so well, it is very frequently used for finding the most common spell

Re: [Foundation-l] Paid editing comes of age

2010-11-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 17:42, Fred Bauder wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 14:09, David Gerard wrote: > >> On 18 November 2010 11:30,   wrote: > >> > Any one signed up yet? > >> > http://www.ereleases.com/pr/visibility-wikipedia-easier-43135 > > > > I couldn't find anything wrong in their cod

Re: [Foundation-l] Paid editing comes of age

2010-11-18 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
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Re: [Foundation-l] Rethinking Wikibooks (was Re: PediaPress)

2010-11-16 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
on "What is X?"... the way they want to answer it. How to solve it? Sorry, no idea. I love textbooks for all ages, so i would love to see Wikibooks flourish. I made a few corrections to existing Wikibooks, but i find it strange to start a Wikibook from scratch. -- Amir E. Aharoni _

Re: [Foundation-l] wikimedia fundraiser

2010-11-14 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 17:17, luke lenny wrote: > why can't wikimedia publish advertisements and generate revenue and > become self-reliant,self-sustainable  , instead of asking for funds > from user every year again and again... > See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Perennial_proposals#A

Re: [Foundation-l] New projects

2010-11-13 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 00:03, Mohamed Magdy wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Milos Rancic wrote: > > Our family has got new projects: > > > > > * Wikinews in Esperanto: http://eo.wikinews.org/ > > > This project is a joke, are there really people who are going to read > news in Esper

Re: [Foundation-l] PediaPress

2010-11-11 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:47, MZMcBride wrote: > Can someone explain the Wikimedia / PediaPress relationship to me? The basic relationship is explained at http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikis_Go_Printable It would be nice to have some more detailed and up-to-date information about this rel

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