2011/6/12 David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com>:
> On 11 June 2011 00:27,  <birgitte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> You are third person to respond as if my email was about me personally 
>> looking for help editing. And the second to snip my writing out of all 
>> context.  Steven seemed to actually get what my concern was.  You can hate 
>> whatever you like, or dislike as the case may be.  It is not going to help 
>> WMF reach all the people who will be using apps despite your opinion.  I 
>> don't need any help, as I have figured out a workable solution. There are 
>> thousands of people, going by the ratings number, that are consuming 
>> Wikipedia in way that will make it very difficult to convert them editors 
>> and possibly even to communicate with them through banners. That is what 
>> concerns me.
>
>
> +1
>
> This is the actual problem.
>
> What would happen to a Bugzilla entry flagging systemic problems of
> the sort Birgitte flags? It would get marked INVALID in short order.

I'm not talking about systemic problems. A particular bug saying "It's
hard/impossible to edit Wikipedia using device X, because the Save
button is too small" is perfectly valid. Even if it's a bug in the
browser of that device - that's what upstream is for. I have at least
one example of productive communication between MediaWiki developers
and Mozilla developers [1] and i'm sure that there's more.

An app may be a temporary solution when all else fails, but submitting
to this ecosystem, which causes the proliferation of non-standard,
over-customized and often proprietary solutions is not the way to go.

[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=629878

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