Hi,
thanks for raising up the female donor issue. Based on the outcome of
our survey we think that getting more female donors is a critical point
for the success of Wikimedia fundraising in the future (of course this
means only if we can raise the ratio of female donors while not lowering
the male
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Nathan wrote:
Hey Nathan,
a bit OT from the thread title, but just clarifying a couple of points:
> * The WMF spends over $2 million on fundraising alone
In FY 2010-11, WMF raised $23M in contributions, not counting $
restricted to future time periods. In the s
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 1:51 AM, Tobias Oelgarte
wrote:
> That is more or less a search and time issue. If you search for a
> cucumber and a sexual related image ranks first instead of an actual
> cucumber then it would be time to improve the search function. If we
> have not enough people categ
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:53:14AM +0100, Milos Rancic wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 23:35, Fred Bauder wrote:
> > https://www.facebook.com/pages/Internet-Workers-of-the-World/224417737626665?sk=wall
> >
> > Our union
>
> I was thinking about party, but union is better :)
Ar?
Kim "Piece
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 01:05:32AM +0100, Tobias Oelgarte wrote:
> Am 30.11.2011 00:04, schrieb Kim Bruning:
> > On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 01:48:24PM +0200, Itzik Edri wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> *I happy to announce that all the videos from Wikimania 2011 in Haifa are
> >> now available on our channel
Am 30.11.2011 00:04, schrieb Kim Bruning:
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 01:48:24PM +0200, Itzik Edri wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> *I happy to announce that all the videos from Wikimania 2011 in Haifa are
>> now available on our channel in YouTube!: http://www.youtube.com/WikimediaIL
>> .*
> * http://www.youtube
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:51:04AM +0100, Tobias Oelgarte wrote:
> If we are careful enough we might be able to recycle the hammer to
> construct two or more small screwdrivers an argument against the image
> filter that is read as this: "Put more effort inside ideas how to
> improve search func
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 01:48:24PM +0200, Itzik Edri wrote:
> Hi,
>
> *I happy to announce that all the videos from Wikimania 2011 in Haifa are
> now available on our channel in YouTube!: http://www.youtube.com/WikimediaIL
> .*
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emli8S2_trs
* http://www.youtube.com
Am 29.11.2011 23:47, schrieb Kim Bruning:
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 09:09:04AM +0100, M?ller, Carsten wrote:
>>> ... but -if we want to reach consensus[1]- what we really need to be
>>> discussing is: screwdrivers.
>>>
>>> sincerely,
>>> Kim Bruning
>>>
>> No, we need to harden the wall agaist
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 01:30:12PM +, Tom Morris wrote:
> I find it highly unconvincing and wrote an extended blog post on the
> topic a while back:
> http://blog.tommorris.org/post/11286767288/opt-in-image-filter-enabling-censorware
Yes, but that blog post attacks a straw man. The actual libr
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 02:28:13PM +0100, Alasdair wrote:
> On Tuesday, 29 November 2011 at 13:42, Tobias Oelgarte wrote:
>
> > With the tiny (actually big) problem that such lists are public and can be
> > directly feed into the
> > filters of not so people loving or extremely caring ISP's.
> >
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 5:59 PM, rupert THURNER
wrote:
> fyi, in switzerland there are 2 mio readers and below 1 donors ... this
> means more than 99% are not giving money.
Which is, in my opinion, fine. The Foundation receives a pretty large
amount of donated money, as non-profit organizati
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 02:40:15PM +0100, Andre Engels wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Tobias Oelgarte
> wrote:
>
> > The problem starts at the point where the user does not choose the
> > image(s) for himself and uses a predefined set on what should no be
> > shown. Someone will have t
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 09:09:04AM +0100, M?ller, Carsten wrote:
> >
> > ... but -if we want to reach consensus[1]- what we really need to be
> > discussing is: screwdrivers.
> >
> > sincerely,
> > Kim Bruning
> >
>
> No, we need to harden the wall agaist all attacks by hammers, screwdriver
fyi, in switzerland there are 2 mio readers and below 1 donors ... this
means more than 99% are not giving money.
On Nov 29, 2011 11:21 PM, "emijrp" wrote:
> 2011/11/29 Thomas Dalton
>
> > On 29 November 2011 21:51, emijrp wrote:
> > > Dear all;
> > >
> > > We have heard many times that mos
On 29 November 2011 22:19, emijrp wrote:
> 2011/11/29 Thomas Dalton
>
>> On 29 November 2011 21:51, emijrp wrote:
>> > Dear all;
>> >
>> > We have heard many times that most Wikipedians are male, but have you
>> heard
>> > about gender and fundraising? Some data from a 2010 study[1] and a 2011
>
2011/11/29 Thomas Dalton
> On 29 November 2011 21:51, emijrp wrote:
> > Dear all;
> >
> > We have heard many times that most Wikipedians are male, but have you
> heard
> > about gender and fundraising? Some data from a 2010 study[1] and a 2011
> > German study[2] (question 20th of 22). People ha
On 29 November 2011 21:51, emijrp wrote:
> Dear all;
>
> We have heard many times that most Wikipedians are male, but have you heard
> about gender and fundraising? Some data from a 2010 study[1] and a 2011
> German study[2] (question 20th of 22). People have said that Wikipedia is a
> sexist plac
Dear all;
We have heard many times that most Wikipedians are male, but have you heard
about gender and fundraising? Some data from a 2010 study[1] and a 2011
German study[2] (question 20th of 22). People have said that Wikipedia is a
sexist place which excludes women to edit. Looks like women neit
That's certainly an idea.
I don't think "post-its" are on the table right now - that's probably a bit
outside the project's scope.
On 29 November 2011 20:06, rupert THURNER wrote:
> one usage could be to support photo competitions as wiki loves monuments,
> where a jury had to select good photo
> > I think this sounds pretty good. Is there any indication how German
> > Wikipedians generally view an implementation like this? I can't imagine
> > English Wikipedians caring about an additional sidebar link/opt-in
> feature
> > like this.
>
>
>
Actually I think, they do not like it too much. I
one usage could be to support photo competitions as wiki loves monuments,
where a jury had to select good photos out of 16 submitted.
On Nov 29, 2011 8:51 PM, "Oliver Keyes" wrote:
> It'd be good! I'm not sure what the usefulness would be, though. So, the
> two aims behind the AFT:
>
>
> -
the longer I think about it, the more I like the direction it takes. as you
allow texts now, would it be thinkable to generalise this in future
versions to make it having post-it functionality?
this means in three directions:
first, can be placed anywhere onto the article even covering things.
sec
It'd be good! I'm not sure what the usefulness would be, though. So, the
two aims behind the AFT:
- To prompt greater feedback from readers on the quality of content;
- To try (through the calls to action, which have actually been pretty
successful) to prompt readers to edit.
I'm not su
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <
> amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
>
> > 2011/11/28 Dirk Franke :
> > > Seriously: Could we please create something like the Twitter Fail Whale?
> > > Maybe a Sad Jimbo? Could help fundraising as well..
> >
> > Scattered pieces of the puzzl
that looks really nice, as well the intention behind it! for pictures, or
commons in general, a rating model like the one already implements would be
more appropriate, what you think?
On Nov 29, 2011 8:20 PM, "Oliver Keyes" wrote:
> Well, if you've seen AFT5 (you may not have, so -
> http://en.wi
Well, if you've seen AFT5 (you may not have, so -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Version_5)
we're moving away from "rating" articles.
On 29 November 2011 19:13, rupert THURNER wrote:
> would it be possible to have a rating for pictures as well?
> On Nov 29, 2011 6:1
would it be possible to have a rating for pictures as well?
On Nov 29, 2011 6:17 PM, "Oliver Keyes" wrote:
> Hey guys!
>
> Another AFT session - this one will be in #wikimedia-office on 2 December,
> at 19:00 UTC. If you're vaguely interested in playing around with
> prototypes, you should attend
Indeed; an hour beforehand :). We'll be jumping in right as he ends.
On 29 November 2011 17:23, Theo10011 wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Oliver Keyes
> wrote:
>
> > Hey guys!
> >
> > Another AFT session - this one will be in #wikimedia-office on 2
> December,
> > at 19:00 UTC. If yo
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Oliver Keyes wrote:
> Hey guys!
>
> Another AFT session - this one will be in #wikimedia-office on 2 December,
> at 19:00 UTC. If you're vaguely interested in playing around with
> prototypes, you should attend - we'll have a lot of cool stuff to poke at
> (and t
Hey guys!
Another AFT session - this one will be in #wikimedia-office on 2 December,
at 19:00 UTC. If you're vaguely interested in playing around with
prototypes, you should attend - we'll have a lot of cool stuff to poke at
(and then complain about when something breaks and it goes all melty).
-
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Tom Morris wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 08:09, Möller, Carsten wrote:
>> No, we need to harden the wall agaist all attacks by hammers, screwdrivers
>> and drills.
>> We have consensus: Wikipedia should not be censored.
>>
>
> You hold strong on that principl
hahaha, this last one is the only I appeared at all :P
The guy in pink with a white hat.
Btw, congratulations! Loved the videos and the soundtracks, very good editions!
And waiting for the next Wikimania to have videos as good as these ;p
_
MateusNobre
Wikimedia Brasil - Met
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:00 PM, phoebe ayers wrote:
> All,
> Minutes for the October 7-8 meeting of the WMF Board are now posted:
> http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2011-10-07
>
> Sorry about the long delay on getting these up.
>
> best,
"Sue presented a proposal: that the Board send
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:48 AM, Itzik Edri wrote:
> Hi,
>
> *I happy to announce that all the videos from Wikimania 2011 in Haifa are
> now available on our channel in YouTube!: http://www.youtube.com/WikimediaIL
> .*
> Next week I will send a HDD with all the footage and the edited videos to
> t
on 11/29/11 8:01 AM, David Gerard at dger...@gmail.com wrote:
> On 29 November 2011 12:56, Tobias Oelgarte
> wrote:
>
>> ... And I still want to see the "good reason for doing so". So far i
>> could not find one single reason that was worthy to implement such a
>> filter considering all the draw
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Tobias Oelgarte
wrote:
> Do you remember your last mail in which you said that my viewpoints are
> extreme? I was writing that considering anything controversial or not
> are the only neutral positions to take. You opposed it strongly. Now you
> start your claim w
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Tobias Oelgarte
wrote:
> Am 29.11.2011 14:40, schrieb Andre Engels:
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Tobias Oelgarte
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The problem starts at the point where the user does not choose the
>>> image(s) for himself and uses a predefined set on what
Am 29.11.2011 14:48, schrieb Andre Engels:
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Tobias Oelgarte
> wrote:
>
>> I neither agree. We decide what belongs to which preset (or who will do
>> it?), and it is meant to filter out controversial content. Therefore we
>> define what controversial content is, -
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Alasdair wrote:
> So a big objection is that any "sets" of filters is not so much to the "weak"
> filtering on wikipedia but that such "sets" would enable other censors to
> more easily make a form of "strong" censorship of wikipedia where some images
> were n
Am 29.11.2011 14:40, schrieb Andre Engels:
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Tobias Oelgarte
> wrote:
>
>> The problem starts at the point where the user does not choose the
>> image(s) for himself and uses a predefined set on what should no be
>> shown. Someone will have to create this sets and
>>> Scattered pieces of the puzzle globe.
>>
>>
>> +1
>
> I like it; a good image says a thousands words in every language.
To me it looks like the Earth after a nuclear attack. I assume this is not
the idea.
Cheers
Yaroslav
___
foundation-l mailing l
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Tobias Oelgarte
wrote:
> I neither agree. We decide what belongs to which preset (or who will do
> it?), and it is meant to filter out controversial content. Therefore we
> define what controversial content is, - or at least we tell the people,
> what we think, th
Am 29.11.2011 14:28, schrieb Alasdair:
> On Tuesday, 29 November 2011 at 13:42, Tobias Oelgarte wrote:
>
>> With the tiny (actually big) problem that such lists are public and can
>> be directly feed into the filters of not so people loving or extremely
>> caring ISP's.
>>
>>
> I think this is a
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Tom Morris wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 08:09, Möller, Carsten wrote:
> > No, we need to harden the wall agaist all attacks by hammers,
> screwdrivers and drills.
> > We have consensus: Wikipedia should not be censored.
> >
>
> You hold strong on that princip
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Tobias Oelgarte
wrote:
> The problem starts at the point where the user does not choose the
> image(s) for himself and uses a predefined set on what should no be
> shown. Someone will have to create this sets and this will be
> unavoidably a violation of NPOV in t
Itzik,
this is a phenomenal piece of news!
I've been recently responsible for uploading videos from a much smaller
conference (the 10th birthday of Polish Wikipedia) to YouTube and
Wikimedia Commons and I imagine how much work you had to put to make
this happen!
Thanks to your videos, this yea
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 13:28, Alasdair wrote:
> On Tuesday, 29 November 2011 at 13:42, Tobias Oelgarte wrote:
>
>> With the tiny (actually big) problem that such lists are public and can
>> be directly feed into the filters of not so people loving or extremely
>> caring ISP's.
>>
>>
>
> I think
On Tuesday, 29 November 2011 at 13:42, Tobias Oelgarte wrote:
> With the tiny (actually big) problem that such lists are public and can
> be directly feed into the filters of not so people loving or extremely
> caring ISP's.
>
>
I think this is a point that I was missing about the objections
On 29 November 2011 12:56, Tobias Oelgarte
wrote:
> ... And I still want to see the "good reason for doing so". So far i
> could not find one single reason that was worthy to implement such a
> filter considering all the drawbacks it causes. That doesn't mean that
Yes.
The Board voted unanimou
Am 29.11.2011 13:45, schrieb David Gerard:
> On 29 November 2011 12:03, Tobias Oelgarte
> wrote:
>
>> What i found to be the best solution so far was the "blurred images
>> filter". You can 'opt-in' to enable it and all images will be blurred as
>> the default. Since they are only blurred you wil
Am 29.11.2011 13:03, schrieb MZMcBride:
> Alasdair wrote:
>> If the feeling is that such a "weak" filter would (regardless of how the
>> pre-populated "filter lists" are created) still attract significant
>> opposition on many projects then I personally don't see how there can be
>> any filter crea
On 29 November 2011 12:03, Tobias Oelgarte
wrote:
> What i found to be the best solution so far was the "blurred images
> filter". You can 'opt-in' to enable it and all images will be blurred as
> the default. Since they are only blurred you will get a rough impression
> on what to expect (someth
Am 29.11.2011 12:09, schrieb Andre Engels:
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Tobias Oelgarte
> wrote:
>
>> If the filter is predefined then it might meet the personal preference
>> and can be easy to use. But it will be an violation of NPOV, since
>> someone else (a group of reader/users) would
Thank you very much Itzik and the Haifa-Team
Greetings
Ting
On 29.11.2011 12:48, wrote Itzik Edri:
> Hi,
>
> *I happy to announce that all the videos from Wikimania 2011 in Haifa are
> now available on our channel in YouTube!: http://www.youtube.com/WikimediaIL
> .*
> Next week I will send a HDD
Hi,
*I happy to announce that all the videos from Wikimania 2011 in Haifa are
now available on our channel in YouTube!: http://www.youtube.com/WikimediaIL
.*
Next week I will send a HDD with all the footage and the edited videos to
the WMF so they will have a copy for archive and so they can uploa
The problem starts at the point where the user does not choose the
image(s) for himself and uses a predefined set on what should no be
shown. Someone will have to create this sets and this will be
unavoidably a violation of NPOV in the first place. If the user would
choose for himself the image
Alasdair wrote:
> If the feeling is that such a "weak" filter would (regardless of how the
> pre-populated "filter lists" are created) still attract significant
> opposition on many projects then I personally don't see how there can be
> any filter created that is likely to gain consensus support a
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Tobias Oelgarte
wrote:
> If the filter is predefined then it might meet the personal preference
> and can be easy to use. But it will be an violation of NPOV, since
> someone else (a group of reader/users) would have to define it. That
> isn't user initiated cens
I agree that the main obstacle at the moment is that any form of "filter list"
proposal is very controversial as many editors feel that this would be a way of
"enabling" POV censorship that users may not want.
One thing I would like to know, which has not been clear to me in discussions
is whe
Am 29.11.2011 10:32, schrieb Tom Morris:
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 08:09, Möller, Carsten wrote:
>> No, we need to harden the wall agaist all attacks by hammers, screwdrivers
>> and drills.
>> We have consensus: Wikipedia should not be censored.
>>
> You hold strong on that principle. Wikipedia s
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 08:09, Möller, Carsten wrote:
> No, we need to harden the wall agaist all attacks by hammers, screwdrivers
> and drills.
> We have consensus: Wikipedia should not be censored.
>
You hold strong on that principle. Wikipedia should not be censored!
Even if that censorship
>
> ... but -if we want to reach consensus[1]- what we really need to be
> discussing is: screwdrivers.
>
> sincerely,
> Kim Bruning
>
No, we need to harden the wall agaist all attacks by hammers, screwdrivers and
drills.
We have consensus: Wikipedia should not be censored.
> Scattered
63 matches
Mail list logo
