On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Tobias Oelgarte <tobias.oelga...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> If the filter is predefined then it might meet the personal preference > and can be easy to use. But it will be an violation of NPOV, since > someone else (a group of reader/users) would have to define it. That > isn't user initiated censorship anymore. It is still the user who chooses whether or not to remove images, and if so, which list, although of course their choice is restricted. I guess that's not user initiated, but it is still user chosen. > The comparison with AdBlock sucks, because you didn't looked at the goal > of both tools. AdBlock and it's predefined lists are trying to hide > _any_ advertisement, while the filter is meant to _only_ hide > controversial content. This comes down to the two extrema noted above, > that are the only two neutral options. I don't agree. We are not deciding which content is controversial and which not, we are giving users the option to decide not to see such-and-such content if they don't want to. That's not necessarily labeling them as controversial; it is even less labeling other content as non-controversial. Even more importantly, your options are not neutral at all, in my opinion. "Either everything is controversial or nothing is". That's not a neutral statement. "It's controversial to you if you consider it controversial to you" - that's much closer to being NPOV, and that's what the proposal is trying to do. NPOV is not about treating every _subject_ as equal, but about treating every _opinion_ as equal. If I have a set of images I consider controversial, and you have a different, perhaps non-intersecting set that you consider controversial, the NPOV method is to consider both distinctions as valid, not to say that it means that everything is controversial, or nothing is. And -surprise- that seems to be exactly what this proposal is trying to achieve. It is probably not ideal, there might even be reasons to drop it completely, but NPOV is much better served by this proposal than it is by yours. -- André Engels, andreeng...@gmail.com _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
