[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-19) Code style improvements in framework

2012-02-25 Thread Martin Heidegger (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-19?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13216664#comment-13216664 ] Martin Heidegger commented on FLEX-19: -- FDT has a bug: it breaks if you write @dynamic l

SEO for SWF Was: Flash Platform roadmap

2012-02-25 Thread Ariel Jakobovits
> what the search engine project was doing Was that project trying to expose more information about the content in swfs to search engines for inclusion in search results? Bouncing off of that, could we program a standard into our new flex compiler's swfs where search engines can expect to find

Re: [IDEAS] Flex: New user interface design

2012-02-25 Thread David Francis Buhler
I suppose my biggest issue is with the Zen theme and the Wood theme. They seem so silly; perhaps more gimmicky than they should be given the typical use-cases for [Adobe] Flex. Each client I've had used Flex for Transactional Software except 1. Most of the projects [except 1], have built internal-

Re: [IDEAS] Flex: New user interface design

2012-02-25 Thread David Francis Buhler
colorschemedesigner uses the same approach as Johannes Itten's color theory, suggesting the use of various percentages of complementary colors, which is an improvement over Kuler. Pretty Cool. On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Martin Heidegger wrote: > On 26/02/2012 03:11, David Francis Buhler wro

RE: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap

2012-02-25 Thread Michael A. Labriola
>I totally buy that requirement. And I think Mike Labriola at one time got >some sort of commitment from Adobe for this particular use. I know it was >before the big 'change' but maybe he can comment on that. There was rumor of allowing some use of AIR for Linux as part of the development kit

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-19) Code style improvements in framework

2012-02-25 Thread Justin Mclean (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-19?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13216555#comment-13216555 ] Justin Mclean commented on FLEX-19: --- As typeDescription is XML what's the reason for this c

Re: [IDEAS] Flex: New user interface design

2012-02-25 Thread Cortlandt Winters
Nice work Jude I very much disagree with David here, though I totally understand the desire. It takes much too much time to do a good skin or theme. Note that there isn't a single complete spark skin available for public purchase yet and the spark architecture has been out for a couple of years n

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-18) flex-sdk-description.xml description not descriptive enough

2012-02-25 Thread Justin Mclean (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-18?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13216537#comment-13216537 ] Justin Mclean commented on FLEX-18: --- >From my testing (not in any way comprehensive) the SD

Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap

2012-02-25 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
I totally buy that requirement. And I think Mike Labriola at one time got some sort of commitment from Adobe for this particular use. I know it was before the big 'change' but maybe he can comment on that. -Nick On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Omar Gonzalez wrote: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 12

Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap

2012-02-25 Thread Left Right
Presentation interface of Flash and Flex interest precisely the prospects, it's not interesting for a wide range of developers, who write code that leverages client-server communication, data processing, physics, AI and many many more. I, for once, being an AS3 programmer at my last job had to deal

Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap

2012-02-25 Thread Omar Gonzalez
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote: > I still don't know if I'm following what you really want.. I totally see > the want/need for AIR for Linux. A compiler for Linux I see as even a > higher priority. But from what I'm putting together, you want a > console-based fla

Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap

2012-02-25 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
I still don't know if I'm following what you really want.. I totally see the want/need for AIR for Linux. A compiler for Linux I see as even a higher priority. But from what I'm putting together, you want a console-based flash player? I can't picture how that fits in with Flex. Flash (and Fle

Re: [IDEAS] Flex: New user interface design

2012-02-25 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
My thoughts are -- it depends on the application. The existing themes are great if you are doing a lot of forms based 'screens'. I don't have a designer on my team, and I most likely never will get one. My apps are used by professions that like good usability and a good clean layout -- that is o

Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap

2012-02-25 Thread Left Right
Jeffry, As with many things Macromedia did at the time... I don't know, but they were some times... well, funny :) That SEO kit was available for downloading publicly for about a month or so, you only needed an account of a registered user (which I had, b/c I purchased Flash MX 2004 some time befo

Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap

2012-02-25 Thread Left Right
> Redtamarin Yes, that's the project I was thinking about, but you can't use flash.* classes with it - so, it's nice, but not very useful, if your purpose was to test flash.* classes :) AIR needs X and, I'm not sure why, but it needs a lot of stuff that is unlikely to run w/o X. Besides, obviously

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-20) The Max value restriction in Spark NumericStepper doesn't work properly

2012-02-25 Thread Pierangelo Mancusi (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-20?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13216521#comment-13216521 ] Pierangelo Mancusi commented on FLEX-20: Sorry, I did a duplicate from the Adobe jira

[jira] [Updated] (FLEX-20) The Max value restriction in Spark NumericStepper doesn't work properly

2012-02-25 Thread Pierangelo Mancusi (Updated) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-20?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Pierangelo Mancusi updated FLEX-20: --- Attachment: NumericStepperPatch.txt here's my patch > The Max value restriction

Re: [IDEAS] Flex: New user interface design

2012-02-25 Thread Martin Heidegger
On 26/02/2012 03:11, David Francis Buhler wrote: My own personal preference would be to remove the current themes (both MX and Spark) from the SDK. This includes the Cobalt theme, Zen theme, etc. I would stick with the "Wireframe" theme for Spark controls. Not remove: extract to a public compon

[jira] [Created] (FLEX-20) The Max value restriction in Spark NumericStepper doesn't work properly

2012-02-25 Thread Pierangelo Mancusi (Created) (JIRA)
The Max value restriction in Spark NumericStepper doesn't work properly --- Key: FLEX-20 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-20 Project: Apache Flex Issue Type:

Compiler Array Implementation ( was Adobe / Apache / Spoon Flex Tour )

2012-02-25 Thread Michael A. Labriola
>The current implementation is that all tags are encoded into an array that >gets interpreted during a method call in the lifecycle of the container so it >can be intercepted or the array can be modified up front. There are >plans >for an API for manipulating the array. It turned out to be muc

Re: [IDEAS] Flex: New user interface design

2012-02-25 Thread David Francis Buhler
My own personal preference would be to remove the current themes (both MX and Spark) from the SDK. This includes the Cobalt theme, Zen theme, etc. I would stick with the "Wireframe" theme for Spark controls. In doing so, we remove the obvious visual impression of a "Flex Application", and encourage

Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap

2012-02-25 Thread Alex Harui
On 2/25/12 9:26 AM, "olegsivo...@gmail.com" wrote: >> Are you really proposing a headless, or console-mode Flash Player for > linux users? > > 1) It possibly exists (well, I'm 99% sure because Macromedia once released > SEO SDK for processing SWFs, so, I'm guessing that's the starting point,

Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap

2012-02-25 Thread Martin Heidegger
On 26/02/2012 02:26, Left Right wrote: Are you really proposing a headless, or console-mode Flash Player for linux users? 1) It possibly exists (well, I'm 99% sure because Macromedia once released SEO SDK for processing SWFs, so, I'm guessing that's the starting point, besides, I could infer th

Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap

2012-02-25 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 2/25/2012 12:26 PM, Left Right wrote: > Are you really proposing a headless, or console-mode Flash Player for linux users? 1) It possibly exists (well, I'm 99% sure because Macromedia once released SEO SDK for processing SWFs, so, I'm guessing that's the starting point, besides, I could in

Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap

2012-02-25 Thread Left Right
> Are you really proposing a headless, or console-mode Flash Player for linux users? 1) It possibly exists (well, I'm 99% sure because Macromedia once released SEO SDK for processing SWFs, so, I'm guessing that's the starting point, besides, I could infer this indirectly through some testing resul

Re: [IDEAS] Flex: New user interface design

2012-02-25 Thread Martin Heidegger
On 23/02/2012 17:59, Haykel BEN JEMIA wrote: I think the first step should be to create new skins for the current Spark components. Designers could make designs for them (ideally using a tool that enables export to FXG like Illustrator) and then developers can create skins out of them. Haykel

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-19) Code style improvements in framework

2012-02-25 Thread Martin Heidegger (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-19?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13216502#comment-13216502 ] Martin Heidegger commented on FLEX-19: -- I was gunning for non-destructive improvements t

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-19) Code style improvements in framework

2012-02-25 Thread Alex Harui (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-19?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13216500#comment-13216500 ] Alex Harui commented on FLEX-19: Regarding empty spaces: I'm actually surprised that was the

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-19) Code style improvements in framework

2012-02-25 Thread Alex Harui (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-19?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13216499#comment-13216499 ] Alex Harui commented on FLEX-19: Regarding D: That's a pretty strict definition of backward c

Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap

2012-02-25 Thread Jeffry Houser
On 2/25/2012 10:41 AM, Left Right wrote: Just because I'm being a prick, OSS != free. More yet, OSS does not imply free and free does not imply OSS. Technically you're right. In the real world, most people--even programmers equate Open Source with "Free and I can do whatever I want with it."

Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap

2012-02-25 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
In my case of Linux development -- these were for my own OSS project, not my employers. I've always had a command-line interface for my apps (these are the ones I develop first), but because of the complexity of the configurations, it was suggested I made an X-based GUI configuration tool. That w

Re: [IDEAS] Flex: New user interface design

2012-02-25 Thread Ariel Jakobovits
Like this idea. Ariel Jakobovits ajako...@adobe.com 650-350-0282 On Feb 24, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Daniel Reicher wrote: > Another approach may be to build themes that closely follow the UI/UX > guidelines of the native environments: Android ICS and iOS as initial > targets and adding components to

Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap

2012-02-25 Thread Left Right
Nick, it sounds like you've been doing corporative development for far too long... it is painful, indeed, to hear the horrible stories of Apple corporation in a battle of interests against Microsoft corporation and Adobe getting in between the fires... but again, what you say about Linux is said fr

Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap

2012-02-25 Thread Nicholas Kwiatkowski
And to add little bit to the story -- Apple has also forced it's partners (not just Adobe) to go through 3 MAJOR framework/architecture changes since they released OSX only over 10 years ago. First there was Aqua, then Carbon, then Cocoa. And it's not like Microsoft which doesn't really force you

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-18) flex-sdk-description.xml description not descriptive enough

2012-02-25 Thread Oleg Sivokon (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-18?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13216462#comment-13216462 ] Oleg Sivokon commented on FLEX-18: -- There was a "recommended" use before to, for example, me

Re: [OT] Flash Platform roadmap

2012-02-25 Thread Jonathan Campos
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 12:53 AM, jude wrote: > Apple made > many requests (complaints) for them to upgrade and provide a good > experience for their users which they ignored. Now, years later is it the > reason Apple's decisions on Flash? > Jude, while I don't agree with the decisions that Adob

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-18) flex-sdk-description.xml description not descriptive enough

2012-02-25 Thread Justin Mclean (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-18?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13216406#comment-13216406 ] Justin Mclean commented on FLEX-18: --- The SDK is a) compiled for a particular version of the

Re: [jira] [Commented] (FLEX-18) flex-sdk-description.xml description not descriptive enough

2012-02-25 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > Justin, let me see if I'm understanding the patch right. This is the file > that gets generated after you build the SDK, not any of your own projects, Yes that's correct. This file (as far as I know) is only used in Flash Builder to show the name of the SDK. Other IDE's might use it but no

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-18) flex-sdk-description.xml description not descriptive enough

2012-02-25 Thread Oleg Sivokon (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-18?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13216402#comment-13216402 ] Oleg Sivokon commented on FLEX-18: -- Hi Justin, I thought that this file was there to tell wh

Re: [jira] [Commented] (FLEX-18) flex-sdk-description.xml description not descriptive enough

2012-02-25 Thread Left Right
Justin, let me see if I'm understanding the patch right. This is the file that gets generated after you build the SDK, not any of your own projects, that target the SDK, right? SDK may contain several different playerglobal libraries, same goes for locales. In fact, several released versions of SDK

Re: [JIRA] PPMC Jira usernames (was: JIRA instance is finally up and running!)

2012-02-25 Thread Sebastian Mohr
JIRA username: masuland

[jira] [Issue Comment Edited] (FLEX-19) Code style improvements in framework

2012-02-25 Thread Martin Heidegger (Issue Comment Edited) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-19?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13216376#comment-13216376 ] Martin Heidegger edited comment on FLEX-19 at 2/25/12 8:41 AM: ---

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-19) Code style improvements in framework

2012-02-25 Thread Martin Heidegger (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-19?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13216376#comment-13216376 ] Martin Heidegger commented on FLEX-19: -- There were empty spaces after the ";".

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-19) Code style improvements in framework

2012-02-25 Thread Alex Harui (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-19?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13216375#comment-13216375 ] Alex Harui commented on FLEX-19: Why is AsyncListView in the semicolon patch? I don't see a

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-19) Code style improvements in framework

2012-02-25 Thread Martin Heidegger (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-19?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13216374#comment-13216374 ] Martin Heidegger commented on FLEX-19: -- I am not sure how to answer: If someone in the f

[jira] [Commented] (FLEX-19) Code style improvements in framework

2012-02-25 Thread Alex Harui (Commented) (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLEX-19?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=13216367#comment-13216367 ] Alex Harui commented on FLEX-19: I took a quick look at D (unused locals). Most of it looks