Re: [EVDL] J1772, NACS, and adapters

2025-02-07 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 7 Feb 2025 at 17:44, Rush via EV wrote: > Today, almost no homes receive 3 phase, it has to be requested by the home > owner and he has to have a valid reason for 3 phase. Are you referring to the US? Or to what nation? I don't know about other EU countries, but in France, 3-phase power is

Re: [EVDL] J1772, NACS, and adapters

2025-02-07 Thread Steve Gaarder via EV
In the US, the only residences that get 3 phase are apartment buildings. I live in such a place. Each apartment, however, just gets 2 legs of the 3 phase, so two feeds of 120, and between them 208 volts. My stove gets 208 with a 50 amp breaker. Our EVSEs are connected to 208 volts single phase

Re: [EVDL] J1772, NACS, and adapters

2025-02-07 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Measured: Leaf LED Lights Lumens

2025-02-07 Thread Jay Summet via EV
I just replaced the OEM Halogens in my 2015 Leaf S with these bulbs and I've been very happy with them. I've always felt that the OEM low beams were under powered, and driving at night I couldn't see as well as I would really like. I've been very happy with the upgrade, definitely brighter t

Re: [EVDL] J1772, NACS, and adapters

2025-02-07 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
I suspect that you and I are talking at cross purposes, and I doubt that you'll give an inch. I persist because I think that even a flawed charging connector standard is worth having, as long as it works reasonably well, which CCS2 does, and ensures that every EV can charge at every public c

Re: [EVDL] J1772, NACS, and adapters

2025-02-07 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
In homes with single phase EV charging installed, the charging station can either provide 16A at 230V (which is essentially a standard EU wall outlet worth of power) or 32A. This of course gives you the same power and requires the same wiring as a 16A or 32A single phase charging solution in the US

Re: [EVDL] J1772, NACS, and adapters

2025-02-07 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On 2/7/2025 2:39 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: In homes with single phase EV charging installed, the charging station can either provide 16A at 230V (which is essentially a standard EU wall outlet worth of power) or 32A. In the US, it's common for a Tesla wall charger to be 48A @ 240v. 11.5

Re: [EVDL] J1772, NACS, and adapters

2025-02-07 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 7 Feb 2025 at 15:55, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: > Technically, the CCS2 supports 63A AC charging, delivering a whopping > 43kW but there are few stations (Some older version Enel station is > know for that) and fewer cars that support it. AFAIK the only EVs that ever supported 43kW chargin

Re: [EVDL] J1772, NACS, and adapters

2025-02-07 Thread Rush via EV
> but ALL homes > receive 3-phase until the meter, by default the meter was 1-phase at least > until > 20 years ago when I lived there. Today, almost no homes receive 3 phase, it has to be requested by the home owner and he has to have a valid reason for 3 phase. There is also an upch

Re: [EVDL] J1772, NACS, and adapters

2025-02-07 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
NOTE also that the *cord* for CCS2 is lighter than any comparable US standard cord, by virtue of the 3-phase AC power. To transport 11kW, you need a 16A cord in EU. For the same power in USA you need a 48A cord. 4 conductors for 16A are way lighter (and cheaper and more flexible) than 2 conductors

Re: [EVDL] J1772, NACS, and adapters

2025-02-07 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On 2/7/2025 2:14 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote: NOTE also that the *cord* for CCS2 is lighter than any comparable US standard cord, by virtue of the 3-phase AC power. Which is fine for EU homes with 3-phase.  US homes do NOT have 3-phase. Is the CCS2 cord lighter than a NACS cord?  if so,

Re: [EVDL] J1772, NACS, and adapters

2025-02-07 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 4:44 PM wrote: > Today, almost no homes receive 3 phase, it has to be requested by the home > owner and he has to have a valid reason for 3 phase. There is also an > upcharge for 3 phase installation, it also makes wiring the house much more > difficult and expensive beca

Re: [EVDL] J1772, NACS, and adapters

2025-02-07 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
There is a development nearly that has the same situation. Reason is that it used to be a commercial area and the utility has all distribution transformers deliver 3-phase 208V So, to avoid that ALL distribution network must receive new 11kV to 240V single phase transformers, the developer did what

Re: [EVDL] J1772, NACS, and adapters

2025-02-07 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
Technically, the CCS2 supports 63A AC charging, delivering a whopping 43kW but there are few stations (Some older version Enel station is know for that) and fewer cars that support it. No home can support it because grid connections are typically 25 or 35A On Fri, Feb 7, 2025 at 2:53 PM John Lussm

Re: [EVDL] J1772, NACS, and adapters

2025-02-07 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
On 6 Feb 2025 at 19:56, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > CCS is a bulky, expensive and less efficient connector standard. Maybe, but how much does the end user really care? CCS2 works fine for me. I can charge anywhere without fussing with potentially hazardous adapters. CCS2 provides AC chargin

[EVDL] EVLN: US charging expansion shut down

2025-02-07 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
The US DOT has notified states that their previously approved plans to deploy charging infrastructure under the $5 billion National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure (NEVI) program were no longer valid. Policy experts and environmental advocates have said NEVI funds would be difficult for the Tr

Re: [EVDL] J1772, NACS, and adapters

2025-02-07 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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