I suspect that you and I are talking at cross purposes, and I doubt that 
you'll give an inch.  
I persist because I think that even a flawed charging connector standard  is 
worth having, as long as it works reasonably well, which CCS2 does, and 
ensures that every EV can charge at every public charging point, which CCS2 
also does.  

The US seems kind of haphazard by comparison.  J1772, Chademo, CCS1, NACS - 
every time you add another "standard," you increase the chance that, when 
you're looking at 1% on your charge indicator, the charging station you see 
50 feet away does you no good.

On 7 Feb 2025 at 8:45, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:

> Well, #1 is cost.  

Can you give me some specific numbers on that?  

For example, we paid about 26k euros ($28.6k) for our Zoe in 2020.  How much 
less would it have cost us if it had been fitted with NACS instead of CCS2?

> NACS handles more current 

More than the 1mw that CCS2 can supply?

> It was an SAE mistake to standardize something as clunky as CCS1 in the
> US when there was already a superior standard. 

Hold everything.  I'm talking about CCS2 here, not CCS1.  It's a different 
critter.

> Ask a little old lady trying to handle a CCS cable vs a NACS cable!

I don't think Margaret would appreciate being called a little old lady, but 
she's not exactly muscle-bound.  She's never had the slightest problem 
handling CCS2 charging cables, either AC or DC.

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I suspect that the lack of real charging standardization in the US has 
slowed EV adoption there.  Y'all are at, what, 8%?  Europe is averaging 
around 20% BEV sales.  In Norway it's over 96%!  

Maybe that will improve now that you've settled on one standard, though I'm 
afraid that EVs are facing some serious political headwinds there.

In any case, you'll probably be using adapters for years, maybe decades. 

There's also still no international connector standard and now probably 
never will be.  Pity, that.

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