I just replaced the OEM Halogens in my 2015 Leaf S with these bulbs and
I've been very happy with them. I've always felt that the OEM low beams
were under powered, and driving at night I couldn't see as well as I
would really like.
I've been very happy with the upgrade, definitely brighter than stock,
but I don't believe they are "too bright". [Perfect plug and play
replacement as well....once I figured out how to do it the 2nd one only
took a minute to swap out...]
I took some photos with a camera exposure locked to get a good
comparison between the OEM's and the LED replacements, you can see that
in my review video here:
https://youtu.be/vt_XzUi0eYQ
The beam pattern is very similar, but the light is brighter and of
course the color temperature is much cooler. (I'd actually prefer a warm
white LED...but haven't seen many of them on the market..)
Jay
On 2/6/25 11:55, Mark Hanson via EV wrote:
Hi Folks,
I finally got a round tuit and measured the relative light output (low beam)
of the 3 cars (to compare to the LED Leaf replacements):
Of course it depends on distance, so just measured each at a foot away for
peak light output with a solar power meter TM-206 Tenmars (measures W/M2)
Google shows X 63.5 for lumens (not sure how the 3000 lumens Fed limit
distance measurement/concentration pattern is) ;
Bolt 2020 = 251 W/M2 x 63.5 = 15.9K lumens
Tesla-Y 2021 = 202 W/M2 x 63.5 = 12.8K lumens
Leaf 2013 (new Leds) = 248 W/M2 x 63.5 = 15.7K lumens
So the Leaf with the new Leds (below) are about the same as the Bolt and
within 19% of the Tesla (which may be spread out pattern a bit more).
The marketing claim of 26K lumens (doesn't indicate distance) is of course
BS as noted by Amazon reviewers but brightness level is on par with other
current production vehicles. I think Dave asked about the dispersion
pattern, it appears to be somewhat more spread out at distance (compared to
the Tesla projector bulbs) but similar in pattern to the Bolt. Cars seem to
vary quite a bit on dispersion pattern and I'm nightly blinded by newer cars
with tiny piercing headlights (with big fake plastic grills), not sure how
some manufacturers get away with not following federal guidelines.
Time will tell how reliable the Leds are, let you know in 10 years...
Best regards,
Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Hanson [mailto:markehans...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2025 12:25 PM
To: 'ev@lists.evdl.org'
Subject: Leaf LED Lights Lumens
Hi Jay/Cor etc,
The Termitor (box label) Fahren LED lights are H13/9008, two leds per, High
& Low beams, 3 pins - matching the original bulb connector, just pop in.
Shows 26000 Lumens 6500K color rendition (blue-white), $50 for two LED
bulbs. It looks like on Amazon they also sell 40K lumen even brighter for
$64 in H13 hi/lo beam style.
With regards to lumens: The great god google: "3000 lumen is the national
limit. 6500k means it's that blue-white light color.
Most of the LED bulbs on Amazon MASSIVELY overstate their true numbers, but
some of them are legitimately that bright (and illegal to use on the road)."
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DG8ZW3FJ?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title
The Chinese product lumen rating appears to be inflated. They're brighter
than the existing headlights, about what the Chevy Bolt is but would have to
get a lumen meter for an accurate number - but they're a huge improvement.
Not sure about reliability, time will tell, got 4.3 stars on Amazon
Have a renewable energy day,
Mark
Mark E. Hanson
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Also, which Lumen rating (LM) did you get? They sell 24,000 33,000 and
44,000...some of which I worry may be illegally bright...
Jay
On 1/31/25 18:40, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
Mark,
Were this the low beams?
My 2012 Leaf was of the style that has LED low beams already (SL? SV?) but
the high beams were incandescent, which are... underwhelming.
So, I bought LED replacements for those, making them more useful.
Cor.
On Fri, Jan 31, 2025, 3:18 PM Mark Hanson via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
wrote:
I bought Termitor H13 plug in Led lights from Amazon for my 2013 Leaf and
now has the same brightness as my 2020 Chevy Bolt.
Just thought I?d pass that along since these bulbs just pop in with no
mods.
Best regards Mark in Roanoke Va
Sent from my iPhone
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