[DNSOP] Re: on the more general problem of delegating to other namespaces in the DNS

2025-07-25 Thread Peter van Dijk
With thanks to an astute reader, 3 corrections that do not change the meat of the problem statement: On Sat, 2025-07-26 at 00:45 +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote: > On Tue, 2025-06-17 at 17:44 +0200, Joe Abley wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Warren, Wes and I put our respective hea

[DNSOP] Re: Proposal for opportunistic transport signaling from authoritative servers

2025-07-25 Thread Peter van Dijk
especially if that signal covers 3 protocols instead of just DoT. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.com B.V. - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list -- dnsop@ietf.org To unsubscribe send an email to dnsop-le...@ietf.org

[DNSOP] Re: [dns-privacy] Re: Proposal for opportunistic transport signaling from authoritative servers

2025-07-25 Thread Peter van Dijk
ell. We do need to then remember that there's an EDNS option that can cause big responses. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.com B.V. - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list -- dnsop@ietf.org To unsubscribe send an email to dnsop-le...@ietf.org

[DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-must-not-sha1-06 telechat Dnsdir review

2025-05-01 Thread Peter van Dijk via Datatracker
Document: draft-ietf-dnsop-must-not-sha1 Title: Deprecating the use of SHA-1 in DNSSEC signature algorithms Reviewer: Peter van Dijk Review result: Almost Ready Hello SHA1-fighting friends, this is a DNSDIR review for draft-ietf-dnsop-must-not-sha1. This document appears to be mostly ready, but

[DNSOP] Re: [EXT] Re: Dnsdir telechat review of draft-ietf-dnsop-generalized-notify-07

2025-03-10 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Wed, 2025-03-05 at 15:36 +0100, Peter Thomassen wrote: > > > It seems desirable to minimize the number of steps that the > > > notification sender needs to figure out where to send the NOTIFY. > > > > This sentence needs work. "needs to /perform to/ figure out" perhaps? > > Done ("needs to per

[DNSOP] Dnsdir telechat review of draft-ietf-dnsop-generalized-notify-07

2025-03-03 Thread Peter van Dijk via Datatracker
Reviewer: Peter van Dijk Review result: Ready with Nits I am the assigned DNSDIR reviewer for this document. Generally this document appears to be in very good shape. I have several nits. Some of those I have phrased as questions below, but they really are requests to improve the text. My

[DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-vandijk-dnsop-ds-digest-verbatim-02.txt

2024-11-04 Thread Peter van Dijk
the -best- name.) Forwarded Message From: internet-dra...@ietf.org To: Peter van Dijk Subject: [EXT] New Version Notification for draft-vandijk-dnsop-ds- digest-verbatim-02.txt Date: 11/04/24 11:04:26 A new version of Internet-Draft draft-vandijk-dnsop-ds-digest-verbatim-02.txt has been success

Re: [DNSOP] Followup One Week Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation

2023-09-29 Thread Peter van Dijk
added note in the Security Considerations about DF makes sense to me - we will have to see if anybody is willing to do the DF experiment for real, of course. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.com B.V. - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing

[DNSOP] Dnsdir telechat review of draft-ietf-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures-07

2023-09-04 Thread Peter van Dijk via Datatracker
Reviewer: Peter van Dijk Review result: Ready Thank you for addressing my last nit. This looks ready to me. ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] Dnsdir last call review of draft-ietf-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures-06

2023-08-18 Thread Peter van Dijk
not. Nonetheless, >resolution failures from FORMERR responses are rare. Looks good to me, thanks. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.com B.V. - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-14

2023-08-18 Thread Peter van Dijk
YG5s6po/ you said "good point, we need to address this". After that I have seen no communication on the list about addressing this, so I'm very surprised to see this publication request. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.com B.V. - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___

[DNSOP] Dnsdir last call review of draft-ietf-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures-06

2023-08-14 Thread Peter van Dijk via Datatracker
Reviewer: Peter van Dijk Review result: Ready with Nits Thank you for processing my previous comments. The document is in great shape. I have one nit: One of the new sections based on my earlier comments is "2.7. FORMERR Responses". It currently says > Upon receipt of a FOR

Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-13.txt

2023-07-17 Thread Peter van Dijk
ct! I missed this one until now. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] Dnsdir last call review of draft-ietf-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures-03

2023-07-03 Thread Peter van Dijk
sconfigured (e.g., the name server >    is not authoritative for the given zone, also known as 'lame')." It >    prohibits unnecessary "aggressive requerying" to the parent of a non- >    responsive zone by sending NS queries. > >    The problem of aggresive requerying to parent zones is not limited to >    queries of type NS. This document updates the requirement from >    section 2.1.1 of [RFC4697] to apply more generally: Upon encountering >    a zone whose name servers are all non-responsive, a resolver MUST >    cache the resolution failure. Furthermore, the resolver MUST limit >    queries to the non-responsive zone's parent zone (and other ancestor >    zones) just as it would limit subsequent queries to the non- >    responsive zone. Looks great. Thanks! Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] Dnsdir last call review of draft-ietf-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures-03

2023-06-26 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Mon, 2023-06-26 at 07:47 -0700, Peter van Dijk via Datatracker wrote: > ## 3.2 > > A previous review > (https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/sJlbyhro-4bDhfGBnXhhD5Htcew/) > suggested that the then-chosen tuple was not specific enough, and also said it > was too pre

[DNSOP] Dnsdir last call review of draft-ietf-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures-03

2023-06-26 Thread Peter van Dijk via Datatracker
Reviewer: Peter van Dijk Review result: Almost Ready I have been selected as the DNS Directorate reviewer for this draft. The DNS Directorate seeks to review all DNS or DNS-related drafts as they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special request. The purpose of the

[DNSOP] Implementor's status on draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation: PowerDNS

2023-06-26 Thread Peter van Dijk
s" do. PowerDNS Authoritative Server: * the default DNSSEC algorithm is 13 * responses are minimal, this is not configurable Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://ww

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-catalog-zones

2022-09-22 Thread Peter van Dijk
for PowerDNS. This brings us to 3 production ready implementations of this specification, which I think is an excellent number. I'll update the draft text (in GitHub) to reflect this. More details at https://doc.powerdns.com/authoritative/catalog.html Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk Powe

Re: [DNSOP] WGLC for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation

2022-08-15 Thread Peter van Dijk
thanks to DNS flag day 2020. > > - API to get PMTU to any destination is available on many platforms > (other than Linux)? As far as such APIs exist, they rely on the few bits of data your kernel happens to have learned recently. Usually, the data you want

Re: [DNSOP] [internet-dra...@ietf.org] New Version Notification for draft-hardaker-dnsop-must-not-sha1-00.txt

2022-08-15 Thread Peter van Dijk
ing. I do see it's not the most likely outcome :-) (2, then 1, perhaps?) Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Working Group Last Call for aft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp

2022-07-29 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Fri, 2022-07-29 at 13:50 +, Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Jul 29, 2022, at 8:58 AM, Peter van Dijk > wrote: > > The mention of 5011 talks about the root, but 5011 does not mention the > > root at all. 5011 is not limited to the root. > > It is limited to "trust

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for aft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bcp

2022-07-29 Thread Peter van Dijk
ially important document, as NSEC/NSEC3 are almost impossible to understand without it. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] WGLC for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation

2022-07-29 Thread Peter van Dijk
be a MAY, or a lowercase "can retry using ...". >The proposed method supports incremental deployment. In its current shape, this document does not really propose a method for anything. If the document gets updated to provide implementable advice, it should get an Implementation St

Re: [DNSOP] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7686 (6761)

2022-06-17 Thread Peter van Dijk
onion names differently from other queries. By default, >    authoritative servers MUST NOT respond authoritatively to >    queries for .onion names. I like this even more. > The "By default" qualifier covers the case of a non-default > configuration (such as being c

Re: [DNSOP] More private algorithms for DNSSEC

2022-03-23 Thread Peter van Dijk
be changed when you get a number assigned. So, Paul, I support the idea behind your draft, but not the current wording. While more 253-like points might be somewhat useful, what we really need are experimental code points with non-253 semantics. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk P

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec3-guidance-05.txt

2022-03-07 Thread Peter van Dijk
ning SERVFAIL. Is "as insecure" missing after "treated"? Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] [EXT] Re: [Technical Errata Reported] RFC7686 (6761)

2021-11-29 Thread Peter van Dijk
n authoritative servers in this document, and I think non-authoritative NXDOMAINs would be very confusing. In particular, resolvers would not believe them anyway. That all said, I can certainly see that other texts than my suggestion could make sense. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.C

Re: [DNSOP] draft-hardaker-dnsop-intentionally-temporary-insec-01.txt

2021-10-22 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Fri, 2021-10-22 at 12:44 -0400, Rose, Scott W. wrote: > On 22 Oct 2021, at 12:13, Wes Hardaker wrote: > > > Peter van Dijk writes: > > > > > > It remains to be debated whether these ideas that you shouldn't use > > > > unless you h

Re: [DNSOP] draft-hardaker-dnsop-intentionally-temporary-insec-01.txt

2021-10-22 Thread Peter van Dijk
e debated whether these ideas that you shouldn't use > unless you have to should eventually be published as an RFC. I'm torn on this one. Sometimes going insecure is what has to happen, and for those cases, operational guidance is good to have. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk

Re: [DNSOP] wrapping up draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec3-guidance

2021-10-21 Thread Peter van Dijk
NSEC3 proof missing (because it is ignored). Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] Question on interpretation of DO and CD

2021-10-07 Thread Peter van Dijk
ion, maybe you want to read it and see if anything surprises you): https://doc.powerdns.com/recursor/dnssec.html#what-when Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] IETF 111 DNSOP WG session II agenda updated

2021-07-29 Thread Peter van Dijk
here): get the draft out of the way first and hope that we manage to limit discussion time on it, to leave time for the wider WG discussion on priorities. It is understood. Thank you. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ _

Re: [DNSOP] IETF 111 DNSOP WG session II agenda updated

2021-07-29 Thread Peter van Dijk
irs apologized to me later > that they hadn't responded earlier and said they could fit me on Thursday. Ah, apologies, then - I assumed it was post-cutoff because I did not notice any email about the draft on dnsop pre-cutoff. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV -

Re: [DNSOP] IETF 111 DNSOP WG session II agenda updated

2021-07-29 Thread Peter van Dijk
o me to discuss prioritisation -after- we spend time talking about current and, especially, new business. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] Empty Non-Terminal sentinel for Black Lies

2021-07-29 Thread Peter van Dijk
to say that out loud here, that there is no expection of -resolver- software to handle this signal in any special way. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] Consensus check on underscore names and draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7816bis

2021-07-12 Thread Peter van Dijk
level for this advice. It is good to let implementers know that somebody thought of this trick, and it might make sense for many implementations, but we should not be overly prescriptive. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] IETF meeting prep and what

2021-06-30 Thread Peter van Dijk
, but do not feel entirely capable of judging that. If (again, when there's WG bandwidth) we draft a document about why 5011 is a bad fit for the root, perhaps somebody can contribute text about the level-of-fit for other use cases. Kind regards, --

Re: [DNSOP] IETF meeting prep and what

2021-06-18 Thread Peter van Dijk
ppy to write text for that, if there is an appetite - when the WG queue is small enough! There are quite some things I like in rfc2317-bis, especially the parts where it proposes something -other than- slashes in labels. I am not offering to take it on at this time, though. Kind regards, -- Peter

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-salgado-dnsop-rrserial

2021-06-01 Thread Peter van Dijk
ike many other drafts that have been crushed under the sheer weight of scope creep. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec-ttl-05.txt

2021-05-20 Thread Peter van Dijk
he Domain Name System Operations WG of the IETF. > > Title : NSEC and NSEC3 TTLs and NSEC Aggressive Use > Author : Peter van Dijk > Filename: draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec-ttl-05.txt > Pages : 10 > Date

Re: [DNSOP] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec-ttl-04: (with COMMENT)

2021-05-20 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Wed, 2021-05-19 at 12:28 +0200, Peter van Dijk wrote: > Hello Benjamin, > > On Tue, 2021-05-18 at 20:36 -0700, Benjamin Kaduk via Datatracker > wrote: > > I don't think I understand what a "deviating value" would be (and in > > which direction it would

Re: [DNSOP] Benjamin Kaduk's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec-ttl-04: (with COMMENT)

2021-05-19 Thread Peter van Dijk
lower the DNSKEY TTL (in PowerDNS). A quick skim of the BIND dnssec-keygen manual page suggests that BIND might sometimes take the SOA TTL as the DNSKEY TTL. So, yes, there might be consequences. I will add a note. > Section 8 > > Why is RFC 8174 only an informative referenc

Re: [DNSOP] Robert Wilton's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec-ttl-04: (with COMMENT)

2021-05-18 Thread Peter van Dijk
at is only useful in validators until signers/authoritatives become compliant with this draft. It is a secondary measure (that the WG explicitly requested so as to attempt to solve the problem in multiple places) that should become irrelevant as signers (most of which already have software

Re: [DNSOP] Murray Kucherawy's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec-ttl-04: (with COMMENT)

2021-05-18 Thread Peter van Dijk
ne here.) Of course. Updated in my copy. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] Roman Danyliw's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec-ttl-04: (with COMMENT)

2021-05-18 Thread Peter van Dijk
> that > the attacker needs to seed the cache more often? The delay is never indefinite. The mitigation provided here is that the limit to that delay is lowered, and indeed also, that the attacker might need to seed more often to implement the attack at all.

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https-05.txt

2021-05-12 Thread Peter van Dijk
those out on subsequent records. The wire format does not: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1035#section-4.1.3 Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mail

Re: [DNSOP] Adoption of new EDNS opcode "rrserial"

2021-05-10 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Mon, 2021-05-10 at 22:09 +0100, Tony Finch wrote: > Peter van Dijk wrote: > > Also in section 3.2, I do not think responding with the option should > > be limited to NOERROR. Specifically, I'd very much also want it to work > > for NXDOMAIN, > > Isn'

Re: [DNSOP] Adoption of new EDNS opcode "rrserial"

2021-05-10 Thread Peter van Dijk
t the serial; this also reinvokes the 'why not put it in AUTHORITY or ADDITIONAL' question, but I really like the short EDNS option that does not change the processing of any RRsets from a query response.) Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https-05.txt

2021-05-10 Thread Peter van Dijk
happy to contribute the necessary words. > > If you have the words to fix this issue that would need to changes the > code but clears everything up, do it :). I would like to clarify that Pieter meant 'need no changes to the code'. :-) Kind regards, -- Peter

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-hardaker-dnsop-nsec3-guidance

2021-05-10 Thread Peter van Dijk
use NSEC3 at all (i.e. when to pick NSEC instead) and I would be happy to contribute that too, if nobody beats me to it. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-catalog-zones-00.txt

2021-04-22 Thread Peter van Dijk
> IETF. > > > > Title : DNS Catalog Zones > > Authors : Peter van Dijk > > Libor Peltan > > Ondrej Sury > > Willem Toorop > >

Re: [DNSOP] WGLC for draft-ietf-dnsop-tcp-requirements

2021-04-22 Thread Peter van Dijk
ill smells like 'you should do this'. How about: These features are implemented as low-level socket options, and they are not activated automatically. If applications wish to use these features, they will need to make specific calls to set the right options, and administrators ma

Re: [DNSOP] New version of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc7816bis after WG last call

2021-04-21 Thread Peter van Dijk
ins only') * we use 1-1-1-3-3-.. label steps, which is not exactly what section 2.3 describes (you can find some more details at https://doc.powerdns.com/recursor/appendices/internals.html#qname-minimization ) Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS

Re: [DNSOP] WGLC for draft-ietf-dnsop-tcp-requirements

2021-04-19 Thread Peter van Dijk
aft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation/ even proposes setting DONTFRAG socket options, and some servers out there already send IPv4 replies with the DF bit set (the two I can verify immediately are OpenDNS, and whatever is running on the router my provider gave me, but most likely there a

Re: [DNSOP] WGLC for draft-ietf-dnsop-tcp-requirements

2021-04-19 Thread Peter van Dijk
case 'must' is confusing.) Suggested extra text: > The Linux TCP_DEFER_ACCEPT feature, while more limited in scope, can provide some of the same benefits as the BSD accept filter feature. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https

2021-04-09 Thread Peter van Dijk
contents. > > > > + Recursive resolvers MAY treat the SvcParams portion of the SVCB RR > > + as opaque. No part of this specification requires recursive resolvers > > + to alter their behavior based on its contents, even if the contents are > > + invalid. > >

Re: [DNSOP] NXDOMAIN and RFC 8020

2021-04-06 Thread Peter van Dijk
omewhere that I missed in the references. I'm > > happy to take a "go read this for the answer" if that's the case. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https-04.txt

2021-03-19 Thread Peter van Dijk
me checks. The only thing I wonder about is whether we can combine the 3597 format with the 3 part breakdown 7477 did on the hexdump, which also is very educational. Of course, nothing prevents us from doing both the breakdown and a couple of 3597 pairings. So, +1 from me! Kind regards

Re: [DNSOP] DNS Error Reporting

2021-03-19 Thread Peter van Dijk
he length is limited to some sensible value? The reporting query comes from an IP, presumably owned by the 'failing' resolver, or some upstream of it. That IP is in a WHOIS database. Am I too optimistic when I suggest that the WHOIS database ca

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

2021-03-19 Thread Peter van Dijk
esponse (with rcode NOERROR or NXDOMAIN), no records are harvested and the whole query is retried over TCP. Based on only our choices, it is pointless to have any content in a TC=1 response. Others may feel somewhat differently, of course! Kind regards, -- P

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dns-catalog-zones-01.txt

2021-02-20 Thread Peter van Dijk
ried by random tools that might have unrelated semantics. I'm not arguing that catalog zones -should- use TXT for everything (because that would be terrible); but the firmess of 5507's conclusion does not fully apply here. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.p

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec-ttl-04.txt

2021-02-18 Thread Peter van Dijk
New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations WG of the IETF. > > Title : NSEC and NSEC3 TTLs and NSEC Aggressive Use > Author : Peter van Dijk >

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec-ttl-03.txt

2021-02-09 Thread Peter van Dijk
> > Title : NSEC and NSEC3 TTLs and NSEC Aggressive Use > Author : Peter van Dijk > Filename: draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec-ttl-03.txt > Pages : 9 > Date: 2021-02-09 > > Abstract: >Due to a combin

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec-ttl

2021-01-31 Thread Peter van Dijk
when that effective TTL expires." The client (I assume you mean a caching validating resolver) should not do that at all. If the document suggests that to you, please help me fix that. Note that if we -did- wanted to write this, we couldn't - section

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec-ttl-02.txt

2021-01-29 Thread Peter van Dijk
Hello, I noticed that 5155 had another occurence of the wrong text. This revision -02 updates that text too. With this, I again believe the document is ready for WGLC. Chairs? Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ On Fri, 2021-01-29 at 02:51 -0800

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec-ttl-01.txt

2021-01-25 Thread Peter van Dijk
ion Status' from the draft is gone (we usually do not publish it in the final RFC - and if we did, it would quickly be outdated). If we do this for other documents too, we can easily check how implementation is going - and if implementation is happening at all! Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec-ttl-01.txt

2021-01-25 Thread Peter van Dijk
et-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > directories. > This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations WG of the IETF. > > Title : NSEC(3) TTLs and NSEC Aggressive Use > Author : Peter van Dijk > Filename

Re: [DNSOP] CNSRRSIG (was: Re: [Ext] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-delegation-information-signer))

2021-01-24 Thread Peter van Dijk
when people change operators. In short, moving this pain into the signers&auths (both of which come from only a handful of vendors!) actually makes a lot of sense to me. Many TLDs will be able to 'implement' CNSRRSIG (or some other va

Re: [DNSOP] CNSRRSIG (was: Re: [Ext] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-delegation-information-signer))

2021-01-21 Thread Peter van Dijk
s what the quoted text means to convey, sorry if that was unclear! > , and I think also require EPP changes. I don't see how EPP comes into it at all. The signer signs all NSsets; the auth serves the signatures with the delegations; done. Kind regards, -- P

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec-ttl-00.txt

2021-01-13 Thread Peter van Dijk
Name System Operations WG of the IETF. > > Title : NSEC(3) TTLs and NSEC Aggressive Use > Author : Peter van Dijk > Filename: draft-ietf-dnsop-nsec-ttl-00.txt > Pages : 7 > Date: 2021-01-13 > > Ab

Re: [DNSOP] new draft: 'NSEC(3) TTLs and NSEC Aggressive Use' (New Version Notification for draft-vandijk-dnsop-nsec-ttl-00.txt)

2021-01-13 Thread Peter van Dijk
On Wed, 2021-01-13 at 10:21 +0100, Peter van Dijk wrote: > On Fri, 2021-01-08 at 11:33 +0100, Vladimír Čunát wrote: > > Well, if the client requests the proof (+dnssec), you have to include > > those NSEC*s and I'd consider it incorrect to prolong their TTL. I'd be

Re: [DNSOP] new draft: 'NSEC(3) TTLs and NSEC Aggressive Use' (New Version Notification for draft-vandijk-dnsop-nsec-ttl-00.txt)

2021-01-13 Thread Peter van Dijk
ation does not currently cap the TTL of expanded wildcards to the lowest TTL in the proof. Now I wonder if that needs to be written down explicitly, and whether that should also go into this document (which we would then retitle 'NSEC(3) TTL clarifications'?). Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] new draft: 'NSEC(3) TTLs and NSEC Aggressive Use' (New Version Notification for draft-vandijk-dnsop-nsec-ttl-00.txt)

2021-01-06 Thread Peter van Dijk
even a Background section, and then I can shorten the Introduction section to only explain the core of the problem. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] new draft: 'NSEC(3) TTLs and NSEC Aggressive Use' (New Version Notification for draft-vandijk-dnsop-nsec-ttl-00.txt)

2021-01-06 Thread Peter van Dijk
NSEC/NSEC3 record is already set to the minimum value. > > > Ralph can of course still be acknowledged for the helpful pointer. Yes, that makes sense, it is relevant background. I took your text plus something extra and put it at https://github.com/PowerDNS/draft-dnsop-nsec-ttl/pull/5 Than

[DNSOP] CNSRRSIG (was: Re: [Ext] draft-fujiwara-dnsop-delegation-information-signer))

2020-12-10 Thread Peter van Dijk
n convinced this needs to be a new type, vs. reusing RRSIG under the specific semantics you described, but a new type feels cleaner to me.) > Thoughts? +1 ! Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] new draft: 'NSEC(3) TTLs and NSEC Aggressive Use' (New Version Notification for draft-vandijk-dnsop-nsec-ttl-00.txt)

2020-12-09 Thread Peter van Dijk
Hello DNSOP, On Mon, 2020-11-23 at 21:16 +0100, Peter van Dijk wrote: > please find below my draft that updates one > sentence in 4034 and the ~same sentence in 5155. As far as I can see, > no correction to 8198 is necessary or useful. I believe this draft is non-controversial. I am in

[DNSOP] new draft: 'NSEC(3) TTLs and NSEC Aggressive Use' (New Version Notification for draft-vandijk-dnsop-nsec-ttl-00.txt)

2020-11-23 Thread Peter van Dijk
that you'd rather not see immortalised in an RFC, please let me know!) Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ Forwarded Message From: internet-dra...@ietf.org To: Peter van Dijk Subject: [EXT] New Version Notification for draft-vandijk-

Re: [DNSOP] [Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-vandijk-dnsop-ds-digest-verbatim-00.txt]

2020-09-25 Thread Peter van Dijk
n extremely slow, > I do think in recent years it has been much better and is still > improving. So I am less concerned about anything taking 5 years again. Now if only we could apply that optimism to operator-registry communications :) Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https:

[DNSOP] [Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-vandijk-dnsop-ds-digest-verbatim-00.txt]

2020-09-25 Thread Peter van Dijk
arent sign that data on the owner's behalf. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ Forwarded Message From: internet-dra...@ietf.org To: Peter van Dijk Subject: [EXT] New Version Notification for draft-vandijk-dnsop-ds- digest-verbatim-0

[DNSOP] [Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-peetterr-dnsop-parent-side-auth-types-00.txt]

2020-09-24 Thread Peter van Dijk
this email, have brought the idea across. Editorial comments are welcome via GitHub (link is in the draft), or via the WG of course. Looking forward to your thoughts on this. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ Forwarded Message From

Re: [DNSOP] Authoritative servers announcing capabilities

2020-09-14 Thread Peter van Dijk
erver, or can it be done opportunistically so that the information eventually appears in the cache? (The related dprive document hints at answers for this but does not provide enough rope either.) Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-01.txt

2020-07-31 Thread Peter van Dijk
etting about a query the moment they responded to it, but I don't think scavenging that query from incoming ICMP packets is the solution. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] DNS type work in other WG meeting

2020-07-27 Thread Peter van Dijk
oceedings/108/agenda/agenda-108-anrw-05 11:05-11:30 Enabling Privacy-Aware Zone Exchanges Among Authoritative and Recursive DNS Servers (Nikos Kostopoulos) 11:30-11:45 Inferring the Deployment of Inbound Source Address Validation Using DNS Resolvers

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-00.txt

2020-06-05 Thread Peter van Dijk
erral Responses Is Not Optional > Author : M. Andrews Mark, thank you for writing this down in a document. If you're doing an implementation status section, you can note that PowerDNS Auth is compliant since 4.2.0, or about a year ago. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-toorop-dnsop-dns-catalog-zones

2020-05-13 Thread Peter van Dijk
pe of things is sufficiently agreed on. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] Consensus suggestion for EDE and the TC bit

2019-11-29 Thread Peter van Dijk
f Answer/Additional/Auth counts, and the sizes of those individual records. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] FW: New Version Notification for draft-mglt-dnsop-dnssec-validator-requirements-08.txt

2019-11-29 Thread Peter van Dijk
ers.xhtml. Section 11, second RUN TIME REC: certainly an operator is not expected to notice -every- failed DNSSEC validation? And what does 'report' mean? Report it where? I'm looking forward to a more focused revision of the draft. I suspect that this document could be a lot short

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-bellis-dnsop-edns-tags-00.txt

2019-03-09 Thread Peter van Dijk
client IP address matches a specified set of address list, > - this version of off-the-shelf BIND 9 happens to have a new > configuration option to skip RRL if an incoming request contains an > edns-tag option with bit X on > ? Yes. Kind r

Re: [DNSOP] New Version Notification for draft-bellis-dnsop-edns-tags-00.txt

2019-03-08 Thread Peter van Dijk
he perceived privacy concerns. So while not requiring an RFC to obtain an assignment, the I-D is published for feedback on the design aspects of the option and to act as the reference specification for it. Well said! Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDN

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-bellis-dnsop-edns-tags-00.txt

2019-03-07 Thread Peter van Dijk
affects DNS operations. +1 Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: (Algorithm Implementation Requirements and Usage Guidance for DNSSEC) to Proposed Standard

2019-03-04 Thread Peter van Dijk
Hi Warren, On 4 Mar 2019, at 16:23, Warren Kumari wrote: On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 10:13 AM Peter van Dijk wrote: As this pertains to a section that will apparently be removed for publication, only posting it here on dnsop@ for historical reasons: So, RFC7942 (the one about &quo

Re: [DNSOP] Last Call: (Algorithm Implementation Requirements and Usage Guidance for DNSSEC) to Proposed Standard

2019-02-28 Thread Peter van Dijk
N. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] RFC 1035 vs. mandatory NS at apex?

2019-02-07 Thread Peter van Dijk
same reasons. Are they currently returning no error/no data? Yes, many do. Others do not respond at all (i.e., timeout). Case in point: https://github.com/dns-violations/dnsflagday/issues/73 Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-large-resp

2019-02-07 Thread Peter van Dijk
r the status of the document, will be *actively harmful to the DNS at large*. Please do not implement this. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-large-resp

2019-01-21 Thread Peter van Dijk
eful debugging aids, and in big numbers, indications of attacks or operational problems. With the draft, ICMP becomes another useless source of background noise. Meanwhile, we have no indication that the draft solves any existing real world problem in a useful way. Please do no

[DNSOP] FOSDEM 2019 DNS devroom CfP

2018-11-15 Thread Peter van Dijk
submission is Saturday, 1 December 2018. If you have a FOSDEM pentabarf account from a previous year, please use that account. Reach out to dns-devroom-mana...@fosdem.org if you run into any trouble. See you there! Cheers, Peter van Dijk, Shane Kerr, Pieter Lexis, and Kees Monshouwer signature.asc

Re: [DNSOP] IETF 102 Hackathon: prototype implementation of draft-wessels-dns-zone-digest-02

2018-07-21 Thread Peter van Dijk
lowest TTL per name, instead of per RRset. This, if true, would argue against 0. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@iet

Re: [DNSOP] BCP on rrset ordering for round-robin? Also head's up on bind 9.12 bug (sorting rrsets by default)

2018-06-16 Thread Peter van Dijk
it is getting away with no ‘round robin’ at all in many deployments. Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] BCP on rrset ordering for round-robin? Also head's up on bind 9.12 bug (sorting rrsets by default)

2018-06-15 Thread Peter van Dijk
Kind regards, -- Peter van Dijk PowerDNS.COM BV - https://www.powerdns.com/ ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

[DNSOP] on 'when to implement' (was: Re: Working Group Last Call for: draft-ietf-dnsop-kskroll-sentinel)

2018-05-08 Thread Peter van Dijk
ill die the death it deserves. In other words, a draft needs to put its money where its mouth is. This way, drafts that actually help operations (this is dnsOP, after all) will get the attention they need, while other drafts may wither away - and that’s a good thing. Kind regards, -- Peter van D

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