Re: [DNG] FHS deficiencies: Was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Steve Litt writes: > Olaf Meeuwissen said on Mon, 18 Oct 2021 18:52:05 +0900 > >>Hi Steve, >> >>Steve Litt writes: > >>> On more thing. When *I* write a program, I never put it in /usr/bin >>> or /usr/local/bin or /opt. I have my own directory, cal

Re: [DNG] Er, Not that way ? (was: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!)

2021-10-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi spiralofhope, spiralofhope writes: > On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 18:52:05 +0900 > Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > >> Might I suggest $HOME/bin :-) > > For me I've only had a few offline custom scripts in: > > $HOME/live/path > > If I thought about it furthe

Re: [DNG] etckeeper: was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi wirelessduck, wirelessd...@gmail.com writes: >> On 21 Oct 2021, at 22:47, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> >> Hi wirelessduck, >> >> wirelessduck--- via Dng writes: >> >>>>> On 20 Oct 2021, at 20:45, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng >>>&

Re: [DNG] etckeeper: was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
o1bigtenor writes: > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 6:47 AM Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng > wrote: > >> [... illustrating etckeeper commit messages ...] > > Mr Olaf > (and the rest of devuan land) > > I found apt-cacher-ng to be a useful tool in tracking updates and in > m

Re: [DNG] FHS deficiencies: Was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Steve, Steve Litt writes: > Simon said on Sat, 23 Oct 2021 15:00:26 +0100 > >>Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >> >>>>> Might I suggest $HOME/bin :-) >>>> >>>> ~/bin isn't ideal for two reasons: >>>> >>>>

Re: [DNG] FHS deficiencies: Was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ortunate one needs to surf the web to discover this and there is > no tool in the application menu to configure it. ACK and the manual pages are also not all that useful. IIRC, there's even a bug in there somewhere about translating the locations. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPI

Re: [DNG] FHS deficiencies: Was: Er, Not that way ? .Re: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
based version control to the configuration files you really care about. Hope this helps -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org

Re: [DNG] Why do I need libselinux1?

2021-10-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
eowulf laptop and e.g. tar and sed both declare a Pre-Depends: on libselinux1. Since these two are both Essential packages, libselinux1 is required on Beowulf. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13

Re: [DNG] etckeeper

2021-10-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Hendrik, Hendrik Boom writes: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 06:52:05PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >> Hi Steve, >> >> Steve Litt writes: >> >> > After that, take a backup of the new system including /etc and >> > $HOME, then restore

Re: [DNG] What not to back up

2021-11-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
n. Note that the latter even includes version info. I would include the output of all three in a backup. It's not a lot of info, just a couple of kb, but may save the day in case restoring does not quite get you where you want to be. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2

Re: [DNG] What not to back up

2021-11-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
, if you don't use things like /srv and /opt, there's not much of a cost to backing up the empty directories :-) Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Suppor

Re: [DNG] What not to back up

2021-11-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
x27;t have it, then. For my needs, dmenu and *sh-completion suffice. > * All data you created, and I hope it's *not* in /home. > > Like Nik says, if your goal is to get it back up in 5 minutes, your > best bet is to back up the entire system, as well as the mbr or > whate

[DNG] Viewing file content (was Re: system administration of non-systemd distros and releases)

2021-11-26 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
`zcat` piping. There is still no zpager :-/ # but with `lv` I don't really need one. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software

Re: [DNG] Viewing file content (was Re: system administration of non-systemd distros and releases)

2021-11-26 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, wirelessduck--- via Dng writes: >> On 26 Nov 2021, at 20:40, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >> >> # On my own machines `lv` makes a fine `pager` for me. On the fly >> # decompression and handling of many different encodings. So for me, >> # it's just &g

Re: [DNG] Viewing file content (was Re: system administration of non-systemd distros and releases)

2021-11-27 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, wirelessduck--- via Dng writes: >> On 27 Nov 2021, at 14:24, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> >> Looking at the lesspipe manual page[1] (don't have less installed ;-), >> it seems that it doesn't support on-the-fly encoding switching but as >> far as dealing

Re: [DNG] Wanting to set up an email system

2021-11-29 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
test -s /var/mail/$LOGNAME \ && lockmail /var/mail/$LOGNAME \ && /bin/sh -c "cat /var/mail/$LOGNAME | reformail -f0 -s maildrop && >/var/mail/$LOGNAME" Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01

Re: [DNG] lpr print pdf file landscape orientation

2021-12-06 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
fying of PDF files but perhaps pdftopdf can be of help here. It's in the cups-filters-core-drivers package. > If you have a document or image that you are converting to a pdf then > if you format the document or image landscape then the exported pdf > will also be landscape. Hope th

Re: [DNG] new firefox-esr buggy?

2021-12-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
but seeing there's a smooth scrolling option too, I'm not sure anymore. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-20 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
sImportant "true"; meaning that automatically installed packages that have only a Suggests: or Recommends: dependency left, i.e. no Depends: or Pre-Depends:, will be removed. Looks like you have something similar in which cause you should probably run apt-mark

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-20 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
e's any `|` in there, DON'T feed it to apt-mark. After that you can, in theory, apt purge xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin without losing your xfce4 dependencies. URK! Dogfooding this, I am told that another 150+ are going to be purged, most likely because of task-desktop and task-xfce-deskto

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Steve, Steve Litt writes: > Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng said on Mon, 20 Dec 2021 18:49:59 +0900 > >> [stuff about trying to get rid of *pulse packages on an Xfce4 system] > > About the only positive thing I can say about xfce is it's better than > Gnome, KDE and the

Re: [DNG] Pipewire and PulseAudio: apulse & firefox

2021-12-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ces for searching > .desktop (alt+F3) and $PATH (alt+F2). Haven't looked at it myself, yet, but dex might be of help. I just saw it getting added as a dependency to i3-wm on daedalus. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2

Re: [DNG] broken dependency chain for libgtk-3-dev ?

2021-12-28 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
-mark showhold` ought to list any packages that are on hold and `apt-mark unhold` will remove the hold. However, seeing that apt wants to install packages from backports, I'd disable that in your APT sources first and give it another try. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2

Re: [DNG] Fwd: request for assistance

2022-01-07 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, o1bigtenor via Dng writes: > On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 5:12 AM Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> o1bigtenor via Dng writes: >> >> > Greetings >> > >> > Basic question is: what happened? >> > >> > I wanted

Re: [DNG] xdg-desktop-portal

2022-01-07 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
n the apt-get and apt.conf manual pages. While the apt.conf settings are honoured by the apt as well as apt-get commands, I am not sure apt will honour the same set of options. Finally, the list of automatically and manually installed packages (as well as those on hold) is maintained via the apt-m

Re: [DNG] request for assistance

2022-01-07 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
- dunno how but all that was installed was a kernel. What probably happened is that you selected the versioned kernel in the devuan-installer when you first installed that beowulf system. The installer gives you a choice between a versioned kernel and one that tracks the latest version. I don&#x

[DNG] Group for /usr/local (was Re: merged /usr breakage)

2022-01-07 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ot;chgrp -R staff /usr/local; chmod -R g+w /usr/local; find /usr/local -type d -exec chmod g+s '{}' \;"; }; ought to keep things the way I prefer them. The snippet uses -R instead of the more descriptive --recursive for brevity. Note that the above is simplistic. If you ha

Re: [DNG] bash / quote weirdness

2022-01-14 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
tt@mydesk ~]$ "/usr/bin/cat -n /etc/fstab" | cut -b 1-20 | head -n5 Here your shell looks for a file called "fstab" in a directory called "etc" in a directory called "cat -n " in /usr/bin. > bash: /usr/bin/cat -n /etc/fstab: No such file or d

Re: [DNG] [OT] bash / quote weirdness

2022-01-14 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Steve Litt writes: > [...] Here at Troubleshooters.Com, spaces and all punctuation except > underscore and hyphen are forbidden, but files coming in from the > outside have horrible filenames. Pretty sure you allow periods too ;-P -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associa

Re: [DNG] The Daedalus desktop needs some love

2022-01-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ting > this, bt a friend of mine who is colourblind tells me it's far more > complicated than this. Yup. Red/green colour blindness is most common but there are many more varieties and some involve more than two colours. A greyscale version is a good first approximation to check whether c

Re: [DNG] The Daedalus desktop needs some love

2022-01-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
blindness and some other visual impairments. I have played around with a tool for Chromium a while back but don't remember it's name. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4

[DNG] Screen readability (was Re: The Daedalus desktop needs some love)

2022-01-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
how to read (pronounce) characters. Hearing it might help prevent a trip to the dictionary ... Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software

Re: [DNG] Website "motto"?

2022-01-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
o used as the default GRUB GUI theme (if you've installed desktop-base, IIRC). Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software

Re: [DNG] kernel-update: initramfs fails to find swap

2022-01-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
!) after I recreated swap (moved the partition and ran mkswap on it). Updating /etc/fstab and /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume to match the changed UUID and running `update-initramfs -u` made it go away. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 Gnu

Re: [DNG] kernel-update: initramfs fails to find swap

2022-01-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Florian Zieboll via Dng writes: > On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 12:07:07 +0900 > Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Florian Zieboll via Dng writes: >> >> > On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 10:34:28 -0500 >> > tempforever wrote: >> > >

Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
;s/#.*//; /^[ \t]*$/d' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*} so we can see what sources you're using. BTW, I don't use synaptic myself. Too much bloat. The command-line suits my needs just fine. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 Gnu

Re: [DNG] software question

2022-01-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
nd personalized bulk mail. IIRC it was >> quite annoying to set up, but once done, it worked. > > I just use /etc/aliases That was my first reaction too ;-) -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4

Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, tito via Dng writes: > On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:27:52 +0100 > Didier Kryn wrote: > >> Le 25/01/2022 à 09:49, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng a écrit : >> > Hi Tito, >> > >> > tito via Dng writes: >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> [...

Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
rk the package for Devuan and maintain the appropriate information in it >> >> My opinion is that 1) is not a good option, because the mirror list is >> volatile >> information and that would require stable updates on a regular basis (and >> that >> won't e

Re: [DNG] software question

2022-01-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Hendrik Boom writes: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 05:43:44AM -0600, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:02 AM Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Hendrik Boom writes: >> > >> > > On Sun,

Re: [DNG] Another reason for why I use Devuan

2022-02-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
this area, even in the expert installation mode. Checking on my initially jessie installed laptop, subsequently upgraded to ascii and then beowulf, this setting was added when I upgraded dbus from 1.10.22-1+devuan1 to 1.10.22-1+devuan2 (on 2019-03-17). Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen

Re: [DNG] Problems with amdgpu in the latest kernel upgrade? Ort just a glitch for me?

2022-02-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
fit the pattern, and > the best way to purge it. As Antoine mentioned linux-image-amd64 is a meta package that depends on the latest versioned linux-image-$version-amd64 package. See https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/package-query.html?c=package&q=linux-image-amd64=5.15.15-2~bpo11+1

Re: [DNG] Problems with amdgpu in the latest kernel upgrade? Ort just a glitch for me?

2022-02-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
configuration true for your system. I do and tend to muck around with the apt and network configurations quite a bit but for most part there is a lot of configuration that I use as is. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F8

Re: [DNG] Kernel Vulnerabilities or who understands this mess

2022-03-08 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
("new iov_iter flavour: pipe-backed") To: Alexander Viro To: linux-fsde...@vger.kernel.org To: linux-ker...@vger.kernel.org Cc: sta...@vger.kernel.org Signed-off-by: Max Kellermann Signed-off-by: Al Viro Signed-off-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman so it l

Re: [DNG] Kernel Vulnerabilities or who understands this mess

2022-03-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ced mode installation though. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundati

Re: [DNG] browsers

2022-03-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ted with Firefox. >> >> (I've also got Vivaldi, Opera and Falkon available. >> Find that all the other browsers except firefox-esr expect one to >> update almost daily - - - sorry I find that that kind of behavior is >> usually a waste of my time!) Hope this helps, --

Re: [DNG] daedalus with chromiium

2022-04-15 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
-1 | http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus/main amd64 Packages chromium | 100.0.4896.88-1~deb11u1 | http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security/main amd64 Packages Seems to be there alright. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A

Re: [DNG] Chimaera installation issue (regulatory.db)

2022-04-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
s that are in main. I do seem to remember that the handling of the file changed a bit and that now the kernel loads it instead of whatever used happen before that. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F

[DNG] Looking for a file (was Re: mouse driver question)

2022-04-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
contents where you can search for both files and packages. All that said, these days the Xorg server works quite well without this file, auto-detecting things upon startup, so chances are you don't have this file. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member si

Re: [DNG] mouse driver question

2022-04-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
esystem entries and about 7000 of those on an NFS backed filesystem on the NAS downstairs. The rest is on an SSD (NVMe). Another point, the grep approach also lists everything below a directory that matches, whereas the -name approach does not. That may be a lot of extra junk to scan through d

[DNG] Looking for xorg.conf (was Re: mouse driver question)

2022-04-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
configuration. As I mentioned in a previous response, nowadays Xorg gets by without this file quite well, most of the time. It simply probes your system and uses what it finds. You can configure things yourself but you'll have to write your own /etc/X11/xorg.conf yourself. Hope this

[DNG] Newer version of libelogind0 not getting installed

2022-04-26 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
just sit this one out, maybe even put libelogind0 on hold for a while, until things are sorted out. Hope this helps, -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software

Re: [DNG] Newer version of libelogind0 not getting installed

2022-04-26 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Mark, Mark Hindley writes: > Olaf, > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 06:14:26PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >> Ah! Looking at the currently installed libelogind0=246.10-3, I see it >> Provides: libsystemd0 whereas libelogind0=246.10-4 no longer does. >> >

Re: [DNG] Newer version of libelogind0 not getting installed

2022-04-27 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
gt; >> which, I think should be >> >> Breaks: libelogind0 (<< 246.10-4~) Oh! Missing digit ... > src:elogind version 246.10-5 with this fixed is being built at the moment. Thanks, waiting for packages to trickle down to daedalus. -- Olaf MeeuwissenFSF As

Re: [DNG] Newer version of libelogind0 not getting installed

2022-05-03 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Mark, list, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng writes: > Mark Hindley writes: >> On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 01:44:44PM +0100, Mark Hindley wrote: >>> I have had a look at the dependencies again and I think I see the (my!) bug. >>> libelogind-compat has >>>

Re: [DNG] Newer version of libelogind0 not getting installed

2022-05-04 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Mark Hindley writes: > On Wed, May 04, 2022 at 08:38:06AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: >> and do not have a desktop installed in case that matters. >> Instead I rely on startx to start i3 for me when I need a GUI. > > Ah, so, no libpam-elogind? Yes that probably makes

[DNG] UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption

2022-07-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
? - if not, how do I keep the copies in sync? - should I use LVM? - does randomizing the partition for /home make sense if on LVM and may get resized sometime in the future? Thanks in advance, -- Olaf Meeuwissen ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption

2022-07-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Antony, Thanks for the feedback. I've been researching a bit myself in the mean time as well but still value additional input from the list. Antony Stone writes: > On Sunday 24 July 2022 at 05:18:47, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > >> Hi list, >> >> I lost the

Re: [DNG] UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption

2022-07-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Didier, Didier Kryn writes: > Le 24/07/2022 à 05:18, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng a écrit: >> Hi list, >> >> I lost the single SSD on my mini PC and am in the process of rethinking >> its storage. So far, I've got myself two brand new and identical PCIe >> N

Re: [DNG] UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption

2022-07-25 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Antony Stone writes: > On Sunday 24 July 2022 at 11:58:01, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >> Hi Antony, >> >> Thanks for the feedback. I've been researching a bit myself in the mean >> time as well but still value additional input from the list. > > I complet

[DNG] APT configuration directives info (was Re: OpenVPN 2.5.1-3+devuan1 packaging vs best practices)

2022-07-27 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
feeling. Looking at manual pages, doing web searches and not really finding what you're looking for. I often forget to look below /usr/share/doc/$package/ ... Have a peek at /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz -- Olaf Meeuwissen ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] UEFI, software RAID1, LVM and encryption

2022-07-27 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Gregory, Gregory Nowak via Dng writes: > On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 08:54:00PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >> OK but if / and /boot are encrypted, something has to be able to decrypt >> that before GRUB can read /boot/grub/grub.cfg. It might be that GRUB is >> a

Re: [DNG] article about devuan

2022-07-31 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
I do think the overall impression he gives is > unfavourable and inaccurate. > > I'm rather more amazed that he labels Devuan (and therefore by extension > Debian too) as "retro" and yet gives a pretty complimentary review, in > comparison, of Slackware! > > Anto

Re: [DNG] Another problem you won't have without Systemd (or separate oomd)

2022-08-20 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
oomd does not depend on oomd ... > Thank you for Devuan! Thank you for some sanity. > > And yeah, it appears that with Debian oomd is not installed as standard > so far, but if its in Fedora, it may come with Debian at some point in > time. Or not, after their recent experiences

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

2022-09-03 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
, at least not with a recompile, but perhaps xss-lock can help with that. Haven't used it myself (yet?) though. See the manual page at https://bitbucket.org/raymonad/xss-lock/src/master/doc/xss-lock.1.rst.in for details. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen. #!/bin/sh # # xfce4 # #

Re: [DNG] chimaera install problem

2022-09-06 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ireshark to check that > it's talking to the network and the server - it appears to be doing so > (accessing server at 95.216.15.86). > > I'm wondering if it could be another effect of the recent key expiry > problem. I'd start a shell in the installer envi

Re: [DNG] Beowulf release schedule

2019-05-11 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
l surely let everyone know when there are mini isos and then installer > isos to test. ... and am still waiting for an announcement of newer isos to test :-/ # I've even been checking pkgmaster.devuan.org about weekly for newer # isos. No such luck ... yet :-( Hope this helps, -- Olaf

Re: [DNG] Devuan AMI

2019-05-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
owledge level is not known a priori would spell it out first time around (with the acronym in parentheses) *or* provide a link to a (wikipedia?) page explaining the thing. As per above. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2D

Re: [DNG] calendars, contacts, to do lists

2019-05-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
(perhaps already mostly completed) support for vCards integration for org-mode. Of course if you don't use Emacs already (or are hooked on vi/mutt) then most or all of the above is of little use and concern. Anyway, hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member

Re: [DNG] Linux system can be brought down by sending SIGILL to Systemd

2019-05-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
t; while true; do kill -ILL 1 ; echo -n "." ; sleep 0.5 ; done > [...] > > OMG, that's both sad and hilarious. > > The jokes about systemd being ILL almost tell themselves. And the systemd fan-folk will be complaining about ILL will, no doubt. -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2

Re: [DNG] Continuing the quest for a decent browser

2019-07-16 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
es a long directory listing > searchable by eye. Aw, why not use your browser's search/find functionality? Does Ctrl+F work? # Still prone to eyebal searching myself but trying to improve ... Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-2

Re: [DNG] Installing fresh copy of x86_64 Beowulf?

2019-07-29 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
aphical installer. Besides amd64, there are also installers for armhf and i386 but I've not tried those. For documentation, refer to the Debian installer's docs. Things don't seem to have changed much. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member s

Re: [DNG] I wrote IBM

2019-10-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
rg?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng>, <mailto:dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org?subject=subscribe> I suspect that the Dyne.org Webmail client is "helpfully" converting the above List-*: header to the gunk you get to se

Re: [DNG] How stable Is beowulf? How to upgrade from ascii?

2019-11-08 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
lient? Only if that user can also read the content of the directory in the first place. For that it needs r-x on the directory. # I vaguely remember that only --x is sufficient but am no longer sure # (and too lazy to check ;-) Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate M

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

2019-11-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
se the question of commensurability. # Guessing you imply EUR as units (seeing an .at domain) but Definitly so if Zimbabwean dollar, LOL. Even JPY, although these don't have fractional bits, anymore. Just my 2 JPY, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-2

Re: [DNG] How to change the action of the computer's power button?

2019-12-03 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
BIOS settings perhaps. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation

Re: [DNG] Where to coordinate OpenRC and Beowulf

2019-12-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
he > development. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Foundation

[DNG] ASCII 2.1 netinst, upgrade to Beowulf

2019-12-24 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
# retro these days ;-) and seem to be using polkit with elogind. There # are no consolekit packages on my system. # Wait! I just noticed libck-connector0. # Hmm, I see I have libpolkit-gobject-elogind-1-0 installed but no # libpolkit-backend-elogind-1-0. Is that a/the problem? Hope this helps, -- Ola

[DNG] Catching up (was Re: Result of the Debian vote 'General Resolution: Init systems and systemd')

2019-12-30 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
going strong, despite any resources issues. Keep up the good work! > Any talk of switching our base is premature. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Sof

Re: [DNG] Catching up (was Re: Result of the Debian vote 'General Resolution: Init systems and systemd')

2020-01-01 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
commends) ASCII install w/o any extra software worked fine for me. If one is going to upgrade right after the ASCII install anyway, not installing extra software during the initial install saves you lots of bandwidth. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004

[DNG] Pager (was Re: Alternatives to synaptic?)

2020-01-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
d you get that. If you don't have installed, you get `more`. Personally, I prefer `lv` as I have to deal with Japanese in various encodings :-/ but it also does on the fly decompression. Great when looking at a compressed /usr/share/doc/*/changelog.Debian.gz! # There's still no zpager,

Re: [DNG] Alternatives to synaptic?

2020-01-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
h, not 2.0.0 as shown in the form. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Softwarehttps://my.fsf.org/donate Join the Free Software Found

[DNG] OT: Langue naturelle (was Re: Fonts trouble on beowulf)

2020-01-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
are referring to the mythical bird that rises >>> from the ashes, it is 'Phoenix' in English. Anything else is not >>> English. >> Vous devez apprendre à parler la belle langue. Même certains Anglais >> peuvent l'apprendre. >> > Why ? Everyone els

Re: [DNG] Ascii/Beowulf nonfree firmware

2020-01-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
#x27;t run into any other > issues either so far. You did do a cold reboot after removing them, right? -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software

Re: [DNG] OT: Langue naturelle (was Re: Fonts trouble on beowulf)

2020-01-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Dimitris via Dng writes: > On 1/10/20 1:32 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >>> Why ? Everyone else seems to want to learn English ;-) >> Want to? >> >> I was forced to at the tender age of 12. >> In addition to French. > > +1 , > and i think

Re: [DNG] Pager (was Re: Alternatives to synaptic?)

2020-01-10 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Erik, Erik Christiansen writes: > On 10.01.20 20:18, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >> # There's still no zpager, even after asking for it two decades ago :-O >> # >> # https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=49942 > > In the "less" manpa

Re: [DNG] ibus

2020-03-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
orks the same way on all of my applications. In that respect, fcitx comes pretty close (using Xfce). > I am not sure why "a video-conferencing app" needs it though. Writing meeting minutes and chat, perhaps? Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-19 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
dure with the Beowulf beta ISO this no longer works :cry: Off now to try with the amd64 server ISO (on non-UEFI hardware). Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Mark, Mark Hindley writes: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 10:05:18AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: >> Hi, >> >> goli...@devuan.org writes: >> >> > Dear dev1ers, >> > >> > The Devuan 3 Beowulf Beta release is now ready for review. The &

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng writes: > Hi, > > goli...@devuan.org writes: > >> Dear dev1ers, >> >> The Devuan 3 Beowulf Beta release is now ready for review. The >> installer isos, desktop-live and minimal-live isos can be downloaded >> from: >

Re: [DNG] Chromium on Beowulf

2020-03-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
n chromium. That may be more of an issue as that package is completely useless by itself, AFAICS at least. BTW, the details on making it a Recommends: are in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=913116 Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member sin

Re: [DNG] udev errors

2020-04-03 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
* that invalid rule trigger the cascade of errors you see. I don't see the offending file in any of the Devuan/Debian packages so assume you installed a Canon provided scanner driver. In that case Canon really should be fixing this up but you could post the file (here or over at the sane-de

[DNG] Picking VM MAC addresses (was Re: A way of holding telephone-conferences with DEVUAN?)

2020-04-09 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
s._local These have the second least significant bit of the first byte set to one, so starting with 04 is NG. First byte values matching 0x#2, 0x#3, 0x#6, 0x#7, 0x#a, 0x#b, 0x#e and 0x#f, where # stands for an arbitrary hexdigit, are fine. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of lapto have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-09 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
See https://minifree.org/ > How difficult was it? Not difficult at all but I'd been using Linux (Debian) as a software developer and small-time sysadmin for two decades already. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C

Re: [DNG] more issues (RE: Beowulf Beta is here!)

2020-04-14 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
em installable from it > > do not contain the ifupdown package (nor other networking utilities besides > busybox ip?). > > The resulting base installation remains offline. I reported that in https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20200322.113542.8f9ac3d5.en.html and there was ta

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-18 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
p. If the OP has task-console-productivity installed it might be a Devuan specific issue. The brltty package is recommended there and there is no such task in Debian AFAIK. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-21 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
ilar as well. Seeing every few seconds irrespective of triggers is overkill, as you mentioned already. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-27 GnuPG key: F84A2DD9/B3C0 2F47 EA19 64F4 9F13 F43E B8A4 A88A F84A 2DD9 Support Free Software

Re: [DNG] tobacco patch?

2020-05-17 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Ian Zimmerman writes: > On 2020-05-16 16:51, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> What do you mean by "tobacco patch"? > > It's an analogy with a medical device used to help smokers with quitting. I think in Europe it's better known as a nicotine patch. Hope

Re: [DNG] without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-22 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
rather, eh, "on topic", I guess. Doesn't this thread kind-a make working on systemd something worthwhile? Wouldn't we be better off burying the thing and get on without? Not just in Devuan but also on the list? Just a thought, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Ass

Re: [DNG] Danger: Debian POSIX hostility

2020-09-17 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
r solved it for me ;-) Eh, perhaps I should mention that I also did a apt install netplug wpasupplicant ifupdown and tinkered a bit to get my interfaces(5) and wpa_supplicant.conf(5) snippets in working order. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2FSF Associate Member since 2004-01-2

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