Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
neck out and recommended "rock solid" Debian Wheezy _LTS_, years ago when it was rock solid. ..and it's why I voiced my idea of a "Devuan Wheezy LTS 0.x" style fork. We can expect these people to volonteer work for us like what they have for debian.org, once they see us as a

Re: [DNG] Another problem with systemd and I will switch to devuan

2017-09-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:56:53 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message <20170918125653.gk23...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 02:52:40PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > ..now these conversion recipes will need to be tested, and such >

Re: [DNG] Another problem with systemd and I will switch to devuan

2017-09-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:41:33 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message <20170918134133.gm23...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 03:37:31PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > > > Now I understand :) We have been working for a while at

Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
irrors soon :) ..keep your Wheezy backups around, we might need them as guineapigs to fix some new problem or at least refute some new bat shit crazy conspiracy theory. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Sce

Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:35:24 +0100, Antony wrote in message <201709181435.24801.antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it>: > On Monday 18 September 2017 at 14:27:04, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 12:59:20 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message > > > > >

Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 17:03:47 +0100, Antony wrote in message <201709181703.47988.antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it>: > On Monday 18 September 2017 at 15:54:16, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:35:24 +0100, Antony wrote: > > > On Monday 18 September 201

Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 21:26:24 +0100, Rowland wrote in message <20170918212624.530e2...@devstation.samdom.example.com>: > On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 22:09:08 +0200 > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 17:03:47 +0100, Antony wrote in message > > &l

Re: [DNG] Gnome?

2017-09-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
much, TDE is a fork off KDE-3.5 which was great, also had Wintendo-style themes to keep users and bean counters happy. ..compared to KDE-3.5 (and I guess TDE), KDE-4.x and Plasma sucks, but has become endurable with 8GB ram. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with

Re: [DNG] Devuan, Firefox and Apulse

2017-09-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
download" then using a proper media > player. ..and it can be automated, which carries it's own set of traps... -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best ca

Re: [DNG] Yunit

2017-09-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
might be or become agnostic on init systems. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. __

Re: [DNG] Why all this systemd stuff ?

2017-09-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
e in Debians repo. ..but should they be in our repo? As in, shouldn't aprolla weed out systemd stuff? > Have you tried to install any of > them? You shouldn't be able to do that, I suppose. > > HND > > KatolaZ > -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards

Re: [DNG] Yunit

2017-09-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 06:08:46 -0500, Nate wrote in message <20170920110846.ge3...@n0nb.us>: > * On 2017 20 Sep 04:01 -0500, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..these https://forum.yunit.io/search.php?keywords=systemd > > and https://yunit.io/?s=systemd would if anything, sugges

Re: [DNG] Devuan, Firefox and Apulse

2017-09-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
up hoping your own wishful dreams are the truth and that everything you learn here on web browsing security and privacy, are conspiracy theories. ..do we have a good bookmark conversion or management utility? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of

Re: [DNG] Vivaldi

2017-09-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ou mentioned chromium is > known for not being for the user: > https://trisquel.info/en/forum/chromium-unconditionally-downloads-binary-blob ..I duck-ducked: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=systemd+vivaldi&ia=web https://forum.vivaldi.net/search?term=systemd&in=titlesposts&sortBy=

Re: [DNG] Vivaldi

2017-09-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 02:36:22 +0200, mdn wrote in message <59c30986@openmailbox.org>: > Le 21/09/2017 00:53, Arnt Karlsen a écrit : > > On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 23:55:47 +0200, mdn wrote in message > > <59c2e3e3.6010...@openmailbox.org>: > > > >

Re: [DNG] Gnome?

2017-09-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
fully) seduced developers into wasting their time on less than worthwhile code to help the guy who started GNOME.ORG "earn a job at Microsoft", _somehow_. .."yes, Qt licensing sucked, yes, sysv is old and sucks, but you say the fix is Gnome and systemd???"

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
#x27;ssh -Y' even locally so you get out > of the habit of using 'xhost +'. I won't argue that, but will just > put it out there. ..my prefecence was the -X option: ssh -X root@localhost until Debian killed it with some new policy. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 16:44:47 -0700, Rick wrote in message <20170921234447.gp11...@linuxmafia.com>: > Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no): > > > ..my prefecence was the -X option: ssh -X root@localhost > > until Debian killed it with some new policy. > > Was i

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 13:03:07 +0200, Arnt wrote in message <20170922130307.25f57...@nb6.lan>: > On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 16:44:47 -0700, Rick wrote in message > <20170921234447.gp11...@linuxmafia.com>: > > > Quoting Arnt Karlsen (a...@iaksess.no): > > > > >

[DNG] ..weird net outage, and aptitude showed me 611 untrusted packages, was: New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
untrusted packages" and that "-t experimental" "was incompatible" or somesuch error message, update dropped those messages and the "611 new untrusted packages" to 18 new trusted ones. ..anyone else see this? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from

Re: [DNG] librezilla: [WAS: Has anyone tried waterfox?]

2017-09-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
gs. > and above all, lack of performance. ..might still have enough omph to work e.g. as a tor etc proxy server. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:10:37 +0200, Didier wrote in message <9a258483-ff65-96a3-1ded-5bb121586...@in2p3.fr>: > Le 22/09/2017 à 01:32, Arnt Karlsen a écrit : > >> The '-Y' option enables X11 forwarding. (This of course requires > >> sshd.) > >> >

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 08:54:30 -0400, Renaud wrote in message <20170922085430.0b228...@ron.cerrocora.org>: > On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 14:31:44 +0200 > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > I don't know how one can prevent you from running ssh -X > > > root@localh

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
e. ..I still miss and prefer the S.u.S.E.-5.2 way, root had a nice red background color in xterms, fairly hard to miss. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case,

Re: [DNG] Devuan, Firefox and Apulse

2017-09-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
are ignorant compared to experts in whatever field of expertise is discussed, so we are left to trust the expert witness testemonies we find more credible. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always com

Re: [DNG] Gnome?

2017-09-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
you", or when everyone believes "it's not worth the while nor effort." -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

2017-10-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
me is not such an issue, you just export an ETH0 variable with it's > name and use $ETH0 in place of eth0 on the commands you type. I > still do prefer typing just eth0, I'm such a lazy sysadmin! :-) > > > Alessandro > ___

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis non systemd

2017-10-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
> That's the spirit! Many many thanks! > -- > aldemir ..maybe we should file a bug (fix) demonstrating this proper Devuan way to fix this and future such Debian/systemd bugs? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his an

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
worries, I'll do the aptitude upgrade dance only after we know what's going on here. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 17:47:50 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message <20171021164750.gf4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 06:31:50PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > ..did all this (except with aptitude), should I then go from 4 to

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 20:37:35 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message <20171021193735.gg4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 08:48:57PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > > > We have been testing amprolla3 for more than two months now,

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:28:21 +0900, Olaf wrote in message <87vaj7etwv@member.fsf.org>: > Hi, > > Arnt Karlsen writes: > > > On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 20:37:35 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message > > <20171021193735.gg4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > > >

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:14:24 +0200, Arnt wrote in message <20171022121424.4755f92c@d44>: > On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 12:28:21 +0900, Olaf wrote in message > <87vaj7etwv@member.fsf.org>: > > > Hi, > > > > Arnt Karlsen writes: > > > > >

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
t; <87vaj7etwv@member.fsf.org>: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Arnt Karlsen writes: > > > > > > > On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 20:37:35 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message > > > > <20171021193735.gg4...@katolaz.homeunix.net&g

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 16:03:33 +0200, Jaromil wrote in message <20171022140333.rnvntd3gxn454vli@reflex>: > On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..leaving "-t experimental" out while adding backports back in, I > > now have a credible "1 Upgrad

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017 22:17:00 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message <20171022211700.gi4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Sun, Oct 22, 2017 at 05:50:54PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > ..I see the last mirror update on the Debian side was: ... > > ft

[DNG] ..on "onion layers", was: Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-10-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
eferrring to? ..peel an onion, and you'll see you'll have to peel off multiple layers. Tor (also) has several "onion layers" of protection. https://www.torproject.org/ ..AFAIK, we (Devuan) have one "onion repository", protected by Tor. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = w

Re: [DNG] Trouble with apt-get upgrade over TOR

2017-10-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
led, just follow reportbug's promts. ..search tip: 'apt-cache search apt-transport ' yields: apt-transport-https - https download transport for APT apt-transport-spacewalk - APT transport for communicating with Spacewalk servers apt-transport-tor - APT transport for anonymous package

[DNG] ..proper use of /merged and /devuan, was: Trouble with apt-get upgrade over TOR

2017-10-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
uld be /devuan and NOT /merged? > The rest is under /merges, if I have not missed something. > > > I think there is proposed-security as well. ..these 4 should be /devuan, the rest should be /merged, AIUI. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a numbe

Re: [DNG] ..proper use of /merged and /devuan, was: Trouble with apt-get upgrade over TOR

2017-10-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ere is proposed-security as well. > > ..these 4 should be /devuan, the rest should be /merged, AIUI. ..do I understand this above correctly now? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...

[DNG] ..console & X setup these days...

2017-10-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
9u5~bpo8+1 (2017-09-28) and still no X. ..so, what changes did I miss during my 130 day and 20-ish hour kde session? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst

Re: [DNG] ..console & X setup these days...

2017-10-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ion? > ..I use vdev-0.1.2, and nouveau, I'm not aware of any news on these. Did we drop KMS? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just

[DNG] ..duh, nvidia killed nouveau, was: ..console & X setup these days...

2017-10-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
t; > linux-image-4.9.0-0.bpo.3-rt-amd64 to 4.9.30-2+deb9u5~bpo8+1 > > (2017-09-28) and still no X. > > > > ..so, what changes did I miss during my 130 day and 20-ish hour kde > > session? > > > > ..I use vdev-0.1.2, and nouveau, I'm not aware of any

Re: [DNG] I'm not part of the Debian project

2017-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
that I’ve tried successfully.) ..not yet tested, I too have questions. :o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___

Re: [DNG] Which repository has apulse package?

2017-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
r ALSA Sun Oct 29 09:50:14 CET 2017 -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] I'm not part of the Debian project

2017-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
his will also not work > # for; /usr/share and /var are all that I’ve tried successfully.) > > > ..not yet tested, I too have questions. :o) ...and one answer, found in the 3'rd comment: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s03.html.en#id595726 -- ..med

[DNG] ..our Devuan packaging policy is different how?, decides guidelines etc, was: I'm not part of the Debian project

2017-10-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
: > https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s03.html.en#id595726 ..if I could assume "Devuan Policy == Debian Policy", the next steps I would recommend, would be: ... https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/build.en.html#git-buildpackage and https://www.debian.org/doc/man

Re: [DNG] Amprolla3 is out for testing

2017-11-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
sr/bin/zipsplit zipalign: /usr/bin/zipalign zipcmp: /usr/bin/zipcmp zipmerge: /usr/bin/zipmerge ziproxy: /usr/bin/ziproxy ziproxy: /usr/bin/ziproxylogtool ziptorrent: /usr/bin/ziptorrent arnt@d44:~$ apt-file purge arnt@d44:~$ apt-file search /usr/bin/gcc E: The cache is empty. You need to run &#

Re: [DNG] Pdftk users, watch your backsides

2017-11-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ng against developing code on top of libgjc while in the belief that "libgjc is perfectly safe", somewhat like http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/540517 , AFAIR. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scena

Re: [DNG] Problem with xorg on 6th gen Intel cpus

2017-11-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ur frame buffer device 240x75 and X/kdm @ 1920x1200x32@59.*Hz, I just kill X and do a 'modprobe -vr nouveau ;sleep 2 ;modprobe -v \ nouveau', 2 may be a little short sleep time, but has failed me only once the last 5 years. ..I may be a wee bit old fashion, I "usually" ;o) reboot only on kernel upgrades and power grid downtime out-lasting my battery. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] / on lvm2 volume (was Re: WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable)

2017-11-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ky surprise breaking their system" systemd workarounds etc. ..let's have them complain about our verbosity when they get fed up with it. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear h

Re: [DNG] / on lvm2 volume (was Re: WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable)

2017-11-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 18:39:22 +, KatolaZ wrote in message <20171108183922.gu4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 07:22:51PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 09:04:57 -0800, Rick wrote in message > > <20171108170457.gk1...@linuxmafia.co

Re: [DNG] OT: MX-Linux 17 Beta1

2017-11-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
'aptitude', hit 'u' and browse the "Ugradeable" and "New" stuff, and weed out what you don't want "right now" etc. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scen

Re: [DNG] Please provide systemd-free libreswan package

2017-11-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
pts re-included in the debian > package fails, we have a plan B anyway :) ...and if that and plans C past Z fails, we'll need to know. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come i

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
man rpm [root@localhost etc]# rpm -qf /etc/rc.local initscripts-9.25-19pclos2014 [root@localhost etc]# ..we have _some_ competition... ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios al

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
c]# man rpm > [root@localhost etc]# rpm -qf /etc/rc.local > initscripts-9.25-19pclos2014 > [root@localhost etc]# > > ..we have _some_ competition... ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenario

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
t 820 May 29 2015 /etc/init.d/rc.local ii initscripts 2.88dsf-59.2+devuan2 amd64 scripts for initializing and shutting down the system root@d44:~# rir:~# ll /etc/init.d/rc.local &&dpkg -l initscripts |grep ^ii |fmt -tu -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 820 Apr 21 2014 /etc/init.d/rc.local ii initscr

[DNG] ..we might want devuan, Devuan and DEVUAN files in fai and fai-doc, was: rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 21:14:26 +0100, Didier wrote in message <7a901cc9-3efe-6164-fbb7-0061ff894...@in2p3.fr>: > Le 19/11/2017 à 20:32, Arnt Karlsen a écrit : > > ..we have _some_ competition... ;o) > > > ~$ apt-file search /etc/rc.local > fai-doc: /usr/share/doc/fa

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 23:30:36 +, Dave wrote in message <352aa878-82d2-bfbc-28be-e28f8d97f...@barradas.free-online.co.uk>: > On 19/11/17 20:40, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sun, 19 Nov 2017 19:32:48 +, Dave wrote in message > > <755e8783-b399-2941-0d2d-40aac6629...@ba

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
rom Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 02:28:45 -0500, Steve wrote in message <20171122022845.1327c...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 02:59:11 +0100 > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 18:21:14 +0100, John wrote in message > > : > > > > &

[DNG] ..forensics on systemd or journald logs, was: rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 07:19:20 +0100, John wrote in message : > On 22/11/17 02:59, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 18:21:14 +0100, John wrote in message > > : > > > >> (Damn but the systemd journal is great :-)) > > ..is there a way to decode a

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
> in some camps. > > Whatever gets the job done.  Personally I'd just install the > application that knows how to read the file, but if I was unable to > do that for some reason or other I'd use one of the many useful tools > Unix like systems come with rather than c

Re: [DNG] rc.local removed from Debian 9, rly?

2017-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 14:44:57 -0500, Steve wrote in message <20171122144457.02549...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 13:03:45 +0100 > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 02:28:45 -0500, Steve wrote in message > > <20171122022845.1327c...@mydes

Re: [DNG] ..forensics on systemd or journald logs

2017-11-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 12:58:10 +, Arnt wrote in message <6ff3d9c1-e23c-4b0e-af51-5f8db1425...@gulbrandsen.priv.no>: > Arnt Karlsen writes: > > you appear to suggest that law enforcement wanting to read systemd > > journal logs, _should_ depend on the mercy of syste

Re: [DNG] ..forensics on systemd or journald logs

2017-11-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 08:20:05 +0100, John wrote in message <25c55d20-a650-5ec7-5943-f2224ba21...@atlantech.com>: > On 22/11/17 17:35, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..to reiterate: Is there a way to decode and read those binary > > systemd journal logs on classic POSIX/Unix

Re: [DNG] ..forensics on systemd or journald logs

2017-11-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 11:32:57 +0100, John wrote in message <51f391b3-2c10-78b0-d1ce-39f56f8e0...@atlantech.com>: > Replying directly because Jaromil has said I am not welcome. ..no problem, I'll cc the list. ;o) > On 23/11/17 11:06, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..

Re: [DNG] ..forensics on systemd or journald logs

2017-11-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 14:47:40 +0100, John wrote in message <02372660-5727-d160-fe49-e3a4963f8...@atlantech.com>: > On 23/11/17 12:28, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..the kernel guys has this far proven more trustworthy, IME. > > Number of times unknown third parties have inser

Re: [DNG] Call for testing: ConsoleKit2

2018-01-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
udev stop ". ..to swap between them, issue e.g. "/etc/init.d/vdev stop \ &&sleep 2 &&/etc/init.d/eudev start ", if that fails, swap back with "/etc/init.d/eudev stop &&sleep 2 \ &&/etc/init.d/vdev start ". -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with K

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
have information about seats, etc created by the > previous instance) ..why can it not read that info in e.g. a "--set-up-hijack-mode"? > > Maybe something to forward to upstream. > > I need a bit more time to check that this crash is actually caused by > the old dae

Re: [DNG] elogind testing for experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ng like systemd, pulseaudio etc poetterware. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. __

Re: [DNG] NFS mount question

2018-01-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
you do _not_ wanna have it mounted automagically on boot-up? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Minimal devuan on raspberry pi 3 B needs wifi.

2018-01-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
I hear you, and I was lucky with my rpi1Bv1s and came here to devuan because of Debian SystemD ways of messing up wifi ETC on my laptops, so I'm not much help here, unless setnet.sh helps you. ..tried sticking in your old Raspian card and running "dpkg \ --get-selections >gotten-sele

[DNG] ..diy apt/dpkg history idea, was: History function in Synaptic

2018-01-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
kg --get-selections ", adding version numbers, architecture and a terse description. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case.

[DNG] ..spectre-meltdown-checker.sh, was: Help with Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
nstall spectre-meltdown-checker" or "git clone https://github.com/speed47/spectre-meltdown-checker.git " etc should get you started. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in se

Re: [DNG] ..spectre-meltdown-checker.sh, was: Help with Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
x once... ..if you twice or more, e.g.: "git clone \ https://github.com/speed47/spectre-meltdown-checker.git \ cd spectre-meltdown-checker &&git status ; git pull ;bash \ spectre-meltdown-checker.sh >spectre-meltdown-checked-$(date) "... -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind

Re: [DNG] forum registration

2018-02-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
kup plan whenever Tor fails. Again a life and death issue. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. _

Re: [DNG] Preserving rsync: was systemd local privilege escalation (CVE-2017-18078)

2018-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
onsidered to be a little too fringe-interest for the main release. You can use gitweb to browse the latest patches. Each branch in the patches repository matches the branch of the same name in the main repository, so "master" matches "master", and "b3.0.x" matches "b

Re: [DNG] Preserving rsync: was systemd local privilege escalation (CVE-2017-18078)

2018-02-07 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 8 Feb 2018 11:57:32 +0800, Brad wrote in message : > On 08/02/18 02:02, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..ok, I'll bite, I have rsync.git and rsync-web.git cloned, > > how do I clone rsync-patches.git? > > > git clone git://git.samba.org/rsync-pat

Re: [DNG] Preserving rsync: was systemd local privilege escalation (CVE-2017-18078)

2018-02-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
ian.sgml && less \ > rsync-and-debian.txt to see a suspiciously old story... ..we have these names all good and checked out ok? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his anc

Re: [DNG] dbus-update-activation-environment: systemd --user not found, ignoring --systemd argument

2018-02-13 Thread Arnt Karlsen
d diff those against the previous version so we can search and find whatever made it into the source packages. ..this above of course leaves the binary blob and Ken Thompson style compiler hack etc attacks, but we'll inch one wee step closer to where we need to go. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = w

Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock's Twitter hijacked?

2018-02-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Murdock#Death .."appears" is the operative term here, all we know, is he probably knew quite a few things about e.g. the tech etc merits of systemd in Debian, that we could use knowing. I have seen murders and a kidnapping happen for less than that. -

Re: [DNG] Debian systemd arrogance

2018-02-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
the secrecy comes with _exactly_ the same "arrogant" zeal, "National Security!!!"-style, in both these 2 cases. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three:

Re: [DNG] Ian Murdock's Twitter hijacked?

2018-02-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 16:04:30 +0100, aitor_czr wrote in message <4c3bf092-2cf7-2b8c-177e-a4a5782c1...@gnuinos.org>: > On 18/02/18 15:50, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Sun, 18 Feb 2018 08:48:03 -0500, Hendrik wrote in message > > <20180218134803.ga9...@topoi.pooq.com>: >

Re: [DNG] Requesting translations for dev1fanboy wiki

2018-02-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
x27;ll need Devuan docs in their own native language, and they are not too likely to understand why they need it, e.g. my Somali neighbors (whom I made translate the IpCop.org docs into Somali in return for free internet access), never understood the need for computer firewalls. -- ..med vennlig h

Re: [DNG] qemu vm guest with sound and Devuan Ascii hangs after a few seconds

2018-02-22 Thread Arnt Karlsen
audio 'n video, r security? ..how does multimedia work with systemd-infested qubes-os.org? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst cas

Re: [DNG] Whitelisting?

2018-02-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
m, which they then can "tip" mainstream media about. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. _

Re: [DNG] Japanese Linux Kernel Programmers - Why do you like anime. Whites say you are pedos.

2018-02-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
rom Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] 3G modem support in devuan jessie network-manager

2018-03-02 Thread Arnt Karlsen
worked, but the network-manager ignores the modem! > > Have the network-manager no support for 3G Modems? > > In an Debian Jessie installation the modem works with > network-manager, also in Slackware 14.2! > > Thanks, > Juergen Moebi

Re: [DNG] antiX distro

2018-03-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
wiki/AntiX https://antixlinux.com/about/ http://antix.mepis.org/index.php?title=Main_Page ..only thing is, where's their mail list? ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of

[DNG] ..anyone tried this "easy nvidia or nouveau display driver switch dual boot" recipe?

2018-03-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org http

Re: [DNG] rq: show me your power

2018-03-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
pe mails mailed in case you can use them. > grep . /sys/class/power_supply/*/* | mail -s power kilob...@angband.pl -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, wo

Re: [DNG] Wicd + dhclient no longer sends the correct host name and doesn't request search domains anymore in ascii.

2018-03-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
wake up the user and recommend a viable work-around. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. __

Re: [DNG] ..no response on https://talk.devuan.org/t/mirroring-devuan/45/7 so I try here

2018-03-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
" with a relevant lan ip (e.g. "10.11.12.13") in all the relevant rewrite rules. That approach leaves your Debian mirror operative until you have C-level approval to yank it down, or, you can leave it up for those crazy bad downtime cases all the way up to "Lennart comes back as J

Re: [DNG] ..no response on https://talk.devuan.org/t/mirroring-devuan/45/7 so I try here

2018-03-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 10:32:15 -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote in message <37e1737b6270d5f488c88d006f55a...@dyne.org>: > On 2018-03-12 09:43, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Dec 2015 02:56:13 +0100, Arnt wrote in message > > <20151217025613.4656e...@nb6.lan>: > >

Re: [DNG] ..no response on https://talk.devuan.org/t/mirroring-devuan/45/7 so I try here

2018-03-12 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 19:10:30 +, KatolaZ wrote in message <20180312191030.ga16...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 03:43:25PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > > merged# This is new devuan.org code, > > >

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-09 Thread Arnt Karlsen
u comment those lines out, TDE-Trinity becomes "obsolete" and are easily purged. > I'm willing to test .iso's. > > Cheers, -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
t; https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ > > - Nate > -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

2018-04-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
c000-cfff memory:d000-d1ff > ioport:e000(size=128) memory:df00-df07 ..you have 2 video cards fighting each other for access to your screen hw??? Choose one, I recommend nouveau on your GM108M. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Ki

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

2018-04-21 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 20:37:24 +0300, Lars wrote in message : > On 04/21/2018 08:17 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > [snip] > > ..you have 2 video cards fighting each other for access to your > > screen hw??? Choose one, I recommend nouveau on your GM108M. > > Thanks. I

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