On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 18:39:22 +0000, KatolaZ wrote in message
<20171108183922.gu4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 07:22:51PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 09:04:57 -0800, Rick wrote in message
> > <20171108170457.gk1...@linuxmafia.com>:
> >
> > > Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen (paddy-h...@member.fsf.org):
> > >
> > > > I used to mount /usr read-only on my server machines but that
> > > > quickly becomes a bore when you need to install security
> > > > upgrades every so often.
> > >
> > > Suggestion: Make remounting an automatic part of package
> > > operations.
> > >
> > > /etc/apt/apt.conf:
> > >
> > > DPkg {
> > > // Auto re-mounting of a read-only /usr
> > > Pre-Invoke { "mount -o remount,rw /usr"; };
> > > Post-Invoke { "test ${NO_APT_REMOUNT:-no} = yes || mount -o
> > > remount,ro /usr || true"; }; };
> >
> >
> > ..me, I would prefer "mount -vo remount,ro /usr", it's an useful
> > wee bit more verbose, and new people coming over from e.g. Debian,
> > may not neccessarily like "our new sneaky surprise breaking their
> > system" systemd workarounds etc.
> >
> >
> > ..let's have them complain about our verbosity when they get
> > fed up with it. ;o)
> >
>
> Why should we make (unreasonable) assumptions about the specific
> configuration of a system, e.g. in terms of how are the different
> filesystems mounted?
..I lost you right there, my suggestion is _only_ to be more verbose.
> You know, "universal" means that basically everybody can use it for
> whatever their own purposes are, with a generous level of
> customisation allowed. We can't cater for all the possible
> combinations of /, /usr, /var, and so on, And BTW, why should we care
> at all? These are details related to *policy*, and *policy* should be
> decided (to the largest possible extent) by the user of a
> distribution.
>
> If having a separate /usr is a problem for Debian, we will try to find
> a way to get around that, and allow the users who want to have a
> separate /usr to continue to do so. The fact that almost nobody uses
> ext2 filesystems nowadays does not mean that we must strip the ext2
> support from "mount", just to make another (unrelated) example.
>
> On this side of the GNU/Linux world, universal still means universal.
>
> HND
>
> KatolaZ
>
--
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
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