On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 12:59:20 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message <20170918115920.gj23...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 07:46:34AM -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > > ...I upgrade my Debian Wheezy LTS to Devuan Jessie ? > > > > ...you get a Devuan Jessie? :D > > > What happens then to those packages I need/use which are not in the > > Devuan repositories ? > > Everything that is is Debian Jessie in in Devuan Jessie. The opposite > is not true, though. > > > > > Will the older versions still run ? Or will the upgrade remove > > them ? > > > > An "apt-get upgrade" will never remove packages, only replace them > with newer versions. > > An "apt-get dist-upgrade" might remove some packages and replace them > with something that does the same job, but is for instance in another > package/comboination of packages. ..if you still worry about the ways "apt-get dist-upgrade" want to do things, try e.g. "aptitude safe-upgrade", "Perform a safe upgrade", or "aptitude full-upgrade" "Perform an upgrade, possibly installing and removing packages", these will often solve these things at least slightly differently to apt-get. And there are many other ways to do this, me, I spent my last coupla Debian years in Debian's dpkg version of the rpm dependency hell I endured in my Red Hat 5.2-to-7.3 years. ;o) > You can always check what is going to be installed/upgraded before > proceeding. > > > Or, if they have no systemd dependencies, can I install the Debian > > Jessie versions ? > > > > 95% of the packages in Devuan Jessie are the same as in Debian > Jessie. So in most cases you will be using packages from Debian > Jessie, even if you get those throgh an automatic redirect from the > Devuan repo. > > > Worried, on the banks of the Paraguay River > > There is no need to be worried. Devuan Jessie is running on thousands > of servers out there, as is Devuan ASCII doing. ..for _some_ people, this worry is not just about "whether Devuan Jessie works", this is also about whether they have a job and can pay for their childrens food and home the next few months. Which is exactly why they stuck their neck out and recommended "rock solid" Debian Wheezy _LTS_, years ago when it was rock solid. ..and it's why I voiced my idea of a "Devuan Wheezy LTS 0.x" style fork. We can expect these people to volonteer work for us like what they have for debian.org, once they see us as a viable way forward for themseves, careerwise and financially. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. _______________________________________________ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
