Re: [DNG] Microsoft azure and devuan

2022-05-27 Thread Mark Rousell
On 20/05/2022 18:31, Peter Duffy wrote: > Quite a long time ago, I mentioned that I'd been tasked with upgrading > some linux VMs running under Microsoft Azure Very good! -- Mark Rousell       ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyn

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-27 Thread Mark Rousell
On 25/11/2021 22:57, Steve Litt wrote: > Like I said in 2014, > they won't quit until the cat command requires systemd. They won't stop until SystemD is in the kernel, such that Linux unavoidably is SystemD. -- Mark Rousell       ___

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-27 Thread Mark Rousell
components and reassemble it. I think this is a very useful and much improved metaphor. -- Mark Rousell       ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan --> Debian?

2021-08-19 Thread Mark Rousell
x27;ll pass on in case other people here find it useful: > > [...] This is very useful. Thank you. -- Mark Rousell       ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Microsoft: Really?

2021-08-11 Thread Mark Rousell
lied upon but people definitely will give up doing their own backups due to systems like this. -- Mark Rousell       ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] ..maybe webmin?, was: Cockpit removal might make sense

2021-06-15 Thread Mark Rousell
t, can anyone say how often this is happening? -- Mark Rousell       ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Multiple resignations from Freenode's staff ??? New drama shake the opensource

2021-05-20 Thread Mark Rousell
t principles such as privacy and common sense when consuming social media. Complex principles (such as software freedom, privacy, and so on) will always be of conscious interest only to a minority of the people in general. Regrettably so. -- Mark Rousell      

Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail

2020-10-28 Thread Mark Rousell
commission income from email signup links. One might cynically observe that now it seems that money is there, Thunderbird is back in the Mozilla fold. ;-) -- Mark Rousell       ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail

2020-10-28 Thread Mark Rousell
rd). The corporation now has about 15 employees (according to statements on tb-planning) and so there is not-insignificant income coming in now. -- Mark Rousell       ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail

2020-10-25 Thread Mark Rousell
And so I am looking for viable alternatives for both myself and my clients. -- Mark Rousell       ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail

2020-10-25 Thread Mark Rousell
On 25/10/2020 06:33, Simon Walter wrote: > On 10/25/20 7:20 AM, Mark Rousell wrote: >> >> The reason for this change is that Thunderbird is deprecating all its >> old addons (the entire ecosystem) and Enigmail won't work on the new >> Thunderbird. It's less tha

Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail

2020-10-24 Thread Mark Rousell
o continue Thunderbird development in any other way with currently available resources is questionable. -- Mark Rousell       ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] TB and Enigmail

2020-10-24 Thread Mark Rousell
who is not impressed with the outward appearance of the style of governance of  the project. Whether or not it would be possible to continue Thunderbird development in any other way with currently available resources is questionable. -- Mark Rousell       ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-25 Thread Mark Rousell
esides things like my ISP making changes to > smtp authentication (now only supporting tls on port 587) without any > notification. This address is mostly for mailing lists and forums. Ah, thanks. It does make deliverability easier to send via an established SM

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-25 Thread Mark Rousell
history, TLS, use of IPv6 (and of course not in blocklist and not in dynamic range), all count to varying extents. The more you can do the better. Also, the larger your non-spam, legitimate-content volume, the better your reputation (to the ext

Re: [DNG] OT? ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Mark Rousell
ender contacts you via a different means. > Clients were also told that there was no GDPR problem for them to consider at > all - even though anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together can explain the > many ways in which O365 is fundamentally incompatible with GDPR, but that'

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Mark Rousell
ough DMARC might perhaps be an issue nowadays. I can confirm that I done option 2 in the past to good effect (on Eclipse Internet in case anyone cares) but I've not tried to do it more recently. I suspect that some ISPs might be a bit choosy about this nowadays just in

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Mark Rousell
deliverability, especially to the larger service provider (e.g. MS/Gmail/Yahoo). Since MS now provides mail services via O365/M365 for a great many businesses, deliverability to these services really matters. Sending via an upstream ISP's SMTP server just makes the issue of del

Re: [DNG] OT? Re: ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Mark Rousell
contact and customers. You'd think that customer pressure would force the service providers to act more sensibly but because the customers don't *see* the problem they don't care about it, even small business customers who lose business as a result. -- Mark Rousell       _

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Mark Rousell
l services using this approach? Many cheap VPS IP ranges have a very poor reputation with larger mail services such as Google, MS, Yahoo, etc. -- Mark Rousell       ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] The real reason I like Linux

2020-03-14 Thread Mark Rousell
average user (even the average Linux user, I suspect) is not going to be scripting stuff any time soon (other than maybe by typing in stuff they Googled). -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Hyperbola is ditching the Linux kernel...

2020-01-23 Thread Mark Rousell
many are considering moving away from it) are here: https://project-trident.org/post/os_migration/ -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] VMware segmentation fault

2020-01-20 Thread Mark Rousell
ndows-server-2019 -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Again, again: DMARC is a no-win problem for mailing lists

2019-12-28 Thread Mark Rousell
voidance of doubt, I have separate 'Reply to List', 'Reply All' and 'Reply' buttons. -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Again, again: DMARC is a no-win problem for mailing lists

2019-12-28 Thread Mark Rousell
which is the poster's personal email address. When I click 'Reply All' the reply goes to everyone mentioned in any To, Cc or Reply-To header. -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Again, again: DMARC is a no-win problem for mailing lists

2019-12-28 Thread Mark Rousell
ry a significant proportion (possibly a majority but it's not certain) of the world's email and where they re-make the rules to suit themselves. Just be glad they still support SMTP at all! -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing lis

[DNG] .NET Core and systemd

2019-08-20 Thread Mark Rousell
systemd) understands log priorities. ------- -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] backups from ext4 to ntfs - extended attributes and access control lists

2019-06-14 Thread Mark Rousell
l.priv.at/nt/hardlinkshellext/linkshellextension.html> -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] backups from ext4 to ntfs - extended attributes and access control lists

2019-05-30 Thread Mark Rousell
ws for Workground 3.11 in 1992. As an aside: Windows NT has had symlinks in NTFS since Vista, so about 12 years. :-) -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Make Linux Fast Again!

2019-05-16 Thread Mark Rousell
Or, if I understand this correctly, choose AMD and not Intel. -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] ..wonder if it will work without systemd... ;o)

2019-05-07 Thread Mark Rousell
that is until systemd gets built into the kernel by Red Hat and everyone else follows suit. ;-) -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Cease battling each other in e-mail

2019-04-24 Thread Mark Rousell
y be needed for growth, resiliency and success in place. > Dismiss the circular firing squad, sir. Good phraseology. -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-11 Thread Mark Rousell
taking any new actions? There is more at stake than this project alone. -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Report from the first Devuan conference

2019-04-11 Thread Mark Rousell
that the funding possibilities mentioned will be beneficial. -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-11 Thread Mark Rousell
ch feel that Devuan is better with you involved than without you. Thank you for all your work. It has mattered. If you need to take a break then fair enough, but I am sure that Devuan will be all the better for it if and when you can return. :-) -- Mark Rousell _

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-11 Thread Mark Rousell
mmercial service providers. The builder of the operating system or the software does not have to be the commercial service provider. -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Dng now alters (some) posts to compensate for DMARC antiforgery

2018-12-08 Thread Mark Rousell
On 07/12/2018 07:02, Simon Hobson wrote: > I reckon I managed a better uptime than Microsoft with their Office > 359 service ;-) LOL -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/li

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

2018-09-20 Thread Mark Rousell
2018/09/21/reply-to-rick-moen-on-dng/ -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

2018-09-20 Thread Mark Rousell
also means that you are reducing the significance of technical merit in favour of happy-huggy feel good factors (which is exactly what the new Linux Code of Conduct explicitly intends), and it seems to me to therefore follow that you are putting your projects at risk. I find it difficult to believe

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

2018-09-20 Thread Mark Rousell
ave come to value. The online environment has been an honest and blunt one for decades. For decades, people have taken offence or insult from time to time. For decades, this has worked well! Let's not change what isn't really broken (except in the eyes of a small number o

Re: [DNG] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: GPL version 2 is a bare license. Recind. (Regarding (future) linux Code of Conduct Bannings).

2018-09-19 Thread Mark Rousell
of even basic human management > practice - and resistant to learn. I make no comment about whether or not there is some kind of intentional plan going on here but I fear that your prediction of where things are headed is correct. The values that helped us all and protected bot

Re: [DNG] Cannot find in mail archive: was Mozilla and cloudflare to hijack all your DNS requests - for your own good of course

2018-09-16 Thread Mark Rousell
source archive searching. Unfortunately it doesn't appear to be open source, though. -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Cannot find in mail archive: was Mozilla and cloudflare to hijack all your DNS requests - for your own good of course

2018-09-14 Thread Mark Rousell
s. It's clearly intended to appeal to the mass market. I totally agree that Pipermail is a more functional UI style. I'd be amazed if someone didn't write a Pipermail-style archive UI for MM3. -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Cannot find in mail archive: was Mozilla and cloudflare to hijack all your DNS requests - for your own good of course

2018-09-13 Thread Mark Rousell
tand it, modular so it should possible for someone to write a Pipermail-style archive viewer to work on MM3. Sounds like an interesting project to learn Python, actually. -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne

Re: [DNG] Cannot find in mail archive: was Mozilla and cloudflare to hijack all your DNS requests - for your own good of course

2018-09-11 Thread Mark Rousell
On 12/09/2018 07:34, Mark Rousell wrote: > By the way, the link I offered ( > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/ ) is the demo server linked > from the official HyperKittty docs here: > https://hyperkitty.readthedocs.io/en/latest/mailman/listinfo/dng HyperKitty (along wi

Re: [DNG] Cannot find in mail archive: was Mozilla and cloudflare to hijack all your DNS requests - for your own good of course

2018-09-11 Thread Mark Rousell
On 12/09/2018 07:23, Don Wright wrote: > Mark Rousell wrote: > >> Although it's still something of a work in progress, it seems that >> MM3/Postorius/HyperKitty might be a possible solution in that case. >> >> (That said, I've just tested the search fun

Re: [DNG] Cannot find in mail archive: was Mozilla and cloudflare to hijack all your DNS requests - for your own good of course

2018-09-11 Thread Mark Rousell
ething of a work in progress, it seems that MM3/Postorius/HyperKitty might be a possible solution in that case. (That said, I've just tested the search function on the MM3 demo system at https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/ and I have to admit that it seems rather crude so

Re: [DNG] Cannot find in mail archive: was Mozilla and cloudflare to hijack all your DNS requests - for your own good of course

2018-09-11 Thread Mark Rousell
On 12/09/2018 05:54, Mark Rousell wrote: > Take a look at Postorius and HyperKitty, the new web UI archiver for > Mailman3. > > According to the HyperKitty docs at > https://hyperkitty.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ this is a demo system: > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [DNG] Cannot find in mail archive: was Mozilla and cloudflare to hijack all your DNS requests - for your own good of course

2018-09-11 Thread Mark Rousell
man3. According to the HyperKitty docs at https://hyperkitty.readthedocs.io/en/latest/ this is a demo system: https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Cannot find in mail archive: was Mozilla and cloudflare to hijack all your DNS requests - for your own good of course

2018-09-11 Thread Mark Rousell
easily and thus run local searches and the web UI is functional, if basic. Or move to MM3 with Postorius and HyperKitty? -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] [OT] Re: (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Mark Rousell
a particular fan of Microsoft. I simply try to be dispassionate when analysing businesses and business dealings. > No, but if you give your address I'll have the authority's check on > her. :) Hah. ;-) -- Mark Rousell __

Re: [DNG] (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Mark Rousell
ng, an IPO, or a sale of the business. It seems that a sale of the business was what the owners chose. My guess is that they liked Nadella more than they liked Microsoft and its history. -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] [OT] Re: (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Mark Rousell
ve nothing to do with Microsoft or anyone associated with them. I have no "very transparent propaganda" of any sort to pass on. For what it's worth, if you search around you'll find me commenting on other mail lists from time to time going back many,

Re: [DNG] [OT] Re: (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Mark Rousell
On 05/06/2018 19:18, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2018 schrieb Mark Rousell: >> [...] >> In short, Microsoft isn't a killer. It's a business. Under Nadella, it >> is doing what is rationally best for itself and, for the foreseeable >> f

Re: [DNG] (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Mark Rousell
what's wrong with that? It still exists in the form of Outlook.com and it's massive, isn't it? Hotmail is surely a success story, or am I missing something? -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] [OT] Re: (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Mark Rousell
27;s being developed by Microsoft, and it's being promoted by Microsoft. As far as I can see, Miguel De Icaza is still very much an open source evangelist, despite working (indirectly) for Microsoft. Just because it's Microsoft doesn't mean it's somehow not open

Re: [DNG] [OT] Re: (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Mark Rousell
ng, as they say. We'll can only wait and see how GitHub turns out under MS's rule. -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] [OT] Re: (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Mark Rousell
ux company. It would fit perfectly with their new business model under Nadella. In short, Microsoft isn't a killer. It's a business. Under Nadella, it is doing what is rationally best for itself and, for the foreseeable future, that is to be friendly to open source and Linux. Maybe they&#

Re: [DNG] (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-05 Thread Mark Rousell
On 05/06/2018 07:19, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 04/06/2018 at 18:40, Mark Rousell wrote: >> On 04/06/2018 17:02, salsa-...@tut.by wrote: >>> Personally I see this as a part of "embrace open source" strategy to kill >>> open source. >>> >

Re: [DNG] [OT] Re: (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-04 Thread Mark Rousell
On 04/06/2018 18:18, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > > On 05/06/18 02:46, Mark Rousell wrote:> Anyway, I look forward to > Microsoft Enterprise Linux in due course. ;-) > NO WAY! It's bad enough with RHEL and it's competitors; if I need that > brand of Linux, I would go Cen

Re: [DNG] [OT] Re: (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-04 Thread Mark Rousell
On 04/06/2018 18:36, KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 06:06:33PM +0100, Mark Rousell wrote: > > [cut] > >> I don't want to get into an argument about this as I am not exactly a >> fan of Microsoft but... >> >> My statement that MS were the largest s

Re: [DNG] [OT] Re: (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-04 Thread Mark Rousell
On 04/06/2018 17:52, KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 05:40:15PM +0100, Mark Rousell wrote: >> >> I can't see that it would be in Microsoft's interest to kill open source. >> >> Aren't they the largest single contributor on GitHub? >> >

Re: [DNG] [OT] Re: (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-04 Thread Mark Rousell
e kernel developers about > allegedly "stolen" code from Unix. It's the same company. The same > people. The same silly faces. The same mindset. The same aims. The > same methods. The same sour ending. HND KatolaZ Time will tell, I guess. Anyway, I look forwar

Re: [DNG] (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-04 Thread Mark Rousell
On 04/06/2018 17:02, salsa-...@tut.by wrote: > Personally I see this as a part of "embrace open source" strategy to > kill open source. > > # Serge > I can't see that it would be in Microsoft's interest to kill open source. Aren't they the largest

Re: [DNG] (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-04 Thread Mark Rousell
On 04/06/2018 16:14, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Mark Rousell (mark.rous...@signal100.com): > >> To play devil's advocate, what can go wrong? > Autonomy. I really can't see anything different about project autonomy before or after GitHub acquisition by Microsoft. The iss

Re: [DNG] (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-04 Thread Mark Rousell
On 04/06/2018 14:07, Mark Rousell wrote: > it would even give them a root into the resurgent mainframe market. Doh... s/root/route/ -- Mark Rousell ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listi

Re: [DNG] (forw) [GoLugTech] Microsoft buys GitHub

2018-06-04 Thread Mark Rousell
ing to corporates if MS could say that you can have Windows and/or Linux and it all integrates transparently within the Microsoft ecosystem) and it would even give them a root into the resurgent mainframe market. I note that SUSE is into OpenStack in a big way and this would definitely suit Microsof

Re: [DNG] Systemd introduces "Portable Services"

2018-05-31 Thread Mark Rousell
t and that big ticket new feature has now landed in Systemd. > Portable services are akin to containers but different." But who would want to rely on what is, in itself, a non-portable "containers but different" thing? There are portable ways of doing this, it