On Aug 21, 4:43 am, "Tom Tobin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Tom Tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Let me propose a stopgap: edit the django-users and django-developers
> > pages to state, in large bold text, what the purpose of each list is
> > (this is "edit
> The numbers don't lie, you've done an *excellent* job supporting
> Django users. I'm just trying to help with an idea on how to keep it
> up when we'll have 50,000 users in this group.
Why would splitting those 50,000 users up into separate and
potentially equally ambiguous groups make them
> I second the on the fact that Malcolm's help has been amazing! Now
> that we are thinking of splitting the mailing list why don't we
> split it according to parts of django! Each one will have a unique
> mailing list. django.contib.admin will be one mailing list etc... jk
Breaking it up b
> Yes, the current name is ambiguous. So is every other possible name.
Just as a comment from a newbie from over the fence:
As a PHP/Zend Framework developer playing with Django I actually
thought the Django list names and setup to be very simple in
comparison to the Zend Framework ones whic
> > While a google group
> > is a good solution for the developers and evangelists it's not
> > targeted at providing help and support.
>
> Do you have any actual evidence to back that claim up?
Google group is a very generic solution. You've done a great job of
using it to provide support, but
I second the on the fact that Malcolm's help has been amazing! Now that we
are thinking of splitting the mailing list why don't we split it according
to parts of django! Each one will have a unique mailing list.
django.contib.admin will be one mailing list etc... jk
If this is really a big issue
Malcolm Tredinnick wrote:
> Because over the last three years, this group has done an *excellent*
> job at providing help and support. And, yes, I have the credibility to
> make that claim: I have never posted a request for support on this list
> and have posted the most number of mails to the lis
On Wed, 2008-08-20 at 12:55 -0700, daonb wrote:
[...]
> While a google group
> is a good solution for the developers and evangelists it's not
> targeted at providing help and support.
Do you have any actual evidence to back that claim up?
Because over the last three years, this group has done
> Renaming issues aside — am I the only one who is bothered by how many
> messages-per-day -users gets vs. noticing "interesting" topics (where
> "interesting" depends on the individual, of course)? django-users has
> become such a catchall that I feel simply overwhelmed, and as I
> stated, I ten
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Tom Tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Renaming issues aside — am I the only one who is bothered by how many
> messages-per-day -users gets vs. noticing "interesting" topics (where
> "interesting" depends on the individual, of course)? django-users has
> become su
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Tom Tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As an aside (and perhaps this is a topic for another thread), I really
> don't like that "meta" discussion gets shoved off into -users;
> django-users is *far* too high-traffic, and I don't keep myself
> subscribed to it becau
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Tom Tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Let me propose a stopgap: edit the django-users and django-developers
> pages to state, in large bold text, what the purpose of each list is
> (this is "edit welcome message" in Google Groups). Let's see if that
> helps any,
Marty Alchin wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Mike Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> So the fact that you say we have to force nearly 15000 people to
>> change is a rather void argument.
>
> Thanks for correcting me. I haven't administered a Google Group
> before, so I didn't realize
On 20-Aug-08, at 8:29 AM, Mike Scott wrote:
> I'm pretty sure the people who use
> django-users mainly do it through the web interface
I seriously doubt this. Maybe I am old fashioned, but I think most
serious members of mailing lists use their desktop
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On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Mike Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> So the fact that you say we have to force nearly 15000 people to
> change is a rather void argument. I'm pretty sure the people who use
> django-users mainly do it through the web interface
I'd be interested to know how
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Mike Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So the fact that you say we have to force nearly 15000 people to
> change is a rather void argument.
Thanks for correcting me. I haven't administered a Google Group
before, so I didn't realize they had measures in place to
> Just so I have this right, the as-yet-unspoken implication in this
> suggestion is that nearly 4,000 people subscribe to a new list, update
> any email rules they may have set up, etc. In addition, we fragment
> the development mailing list archive into a "2005-2008" archive and a
> "2008-prese
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Tom Tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And this *isn't* a bikeshed argument. There is obviously substantial
> confusion over what the terms "users" and "developers" mean in the
> context of Django. We're attracting *lots* of people (3849 on
> -developers, 10431
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Malcolm Tredinnick
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please take this thread to django-users. This list is for the internal
> development of django and this thread doesn't contribute to that.
Done.
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss
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