On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Tom Tobin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And this *isn't* a bikeshed argument. There is obviously substantial > confusion over what the terms "users" and "developers" mean in the > context of Django. We're attracting *lots* of people (3849 on > -developers, 10431 on -users), and the problem hasn't abated; it's > only going to get worse.
Just so I have this right, the as-yet-unspoken implication in this suggestion is that nearly 4,000 people subscribe to a new list, update any email rules they may have set up, etc. In addition, we fragment the development mailing list archive into a "2005-2008" archive and a "2008-present" archive. As such, we also chop any threads that may be in progress during the move, hoping they'll continue without incident on the new list. And that's not considering the hassle of trying to actually follow those threads later, given that it'd span two separate archives. > (FWIW, I've registered "django-support" and "django-community" as > locked groups, and will gladly hand them over to someone in core / DSF > / etc.) Interesting. So now we're considering asking over 10,000 people to subscribe to up to two new mailing lists, just to continue discussions they have happily today. And again, we have the whole multiple-archive problem and hacked-up threads. More to the point, neither of those would solve the problem, since the issue here isn't that "django-users" isn't descriptive enough; it's that "django-developers" is also descriptive enough. If you're registering new names, why not register a new name for the mailing list actually experiencing the problem? Now, I'm admit: I do realize that Django 1.0 involves some necessary backwards-incompatibilities. But should mailing list subscriptions really be added to that list? Troubling nearly 15,000 people to change 3-year-old habits because a few people are annoyed by off-topic emails every other day (or so) just doesn't seem worth it to me. As always, one man's opinion. -Gul --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---