On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please take this thread to django-users. This list is for the internal > development of django and this thread doesn't contribute to that.
Done. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Jacob Kaplan-Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seriously - this comes up every couple of months, and it's just a > bikeshed argument. We get about one off-topic post every ten days or > so; hardly an onerous task to gently point folks to the right place. > There's pretty clear explanations about what each list is for right > there on the sign-up pages; we'll just trade folks who ignore that > text for folks who ignore another bit. Those figures are off. We get roughly one off-topic post in django-dev every other day (considering August thus far, and not counting posters who immediately realized their mistake without prompting). And this *isn't* a bikeshed argument. There is obviously substantial confusion over what the terms "users" and "developers" mean in the context of Django. We're attracting *lots* of people (3849 on -developers, 10431 on -users), and the problem hasn't abated; it's only going to get worse. Let me propose a stopgap: edit the django-users and django-developers pages to state, in large bold text, what the purpose of each list is (this is "edit welcome message" in Google Groups). Let's see if that helps any, and come back to this in a month or so. On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Malcolm Tredinnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What will happen is that this thread will generate far more > traffic than the infrequent accidental mis-postings and clog up the > recent postings in our inboxes, obscuring stuff that gets actual > development work done. As an aside (and perhaps this is a topic for another thread), I really don't like that "meta" discussion gets shoved off into -users; django-users is *far* too high-traffic, and I don't keep myself subscribed to it because I can't possibly keep up with 100+ messages a day. It's high about time that -users got split into a couple of different lists (IMHO "django-support", and "django-community"). I'm completely fine with the development list staying completely on the topic of, well, *development*, but the way "django-users" has become "django-catchall" is fairly detrimental to focusing on what's of interest to various individuals. (FWIW, I've registered "django-support" and "django-community" as locked groups, and will gladly hand them over to someone in core / DSF / etc.) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
